RE: [vpFREE] Mugged & Caught

good job karen!!!

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: kjhaka@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:04:37 -0700
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Mugged & Caught






WOW! How many people get robbed in Vegas everyday and it ends much worse

and doesn't get this kind of attention? I'm sure that due to Karen's demeanor, accurate

reporting of the details and swift action that police made the effort to catch this guy

and were successful! Great going Karen!

Jean H--

Life is ten percent what you make it

and ninety percent how you take it!

From: William Gatti <gattb@comcast.net>

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 1:55 PM

Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: Mugged

Here is the link to the story:

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/15530446/man-accused-of-robbing-women-outside-

casinos

Bill Gatti

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From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of

Jean Scott

Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 1:49 PM

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Mugged

I just saw this story on Channel 8 News. Karen, they didn't give your name

but just your age!!!! :) or :(

________________

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You can read my blog at

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[vpFREE] Re: Palms question

 

> "tomflush" <tomflush@...> wrote:
>
> Rumor has it that the Palms has axed its 3 25C 9/6
> bdlux + sequential royal machines. Can anybody confirm ?

Did you look for these in their new location? They were moved about ten days ago. They are now just outside the Mint Lounge, very near their old location between the Mint Lounge and the high limit room. At the time the paytables were still OK.

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[vpFREE] Re: Treasure Island casino in Minnesota

 

Frank,

Thanks for the info! With 1% CB and $120 a week in free play plus comps this might be OK for a local, but I will not make a trip to play 98% VP.

Chris

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Frank Torrance <frankt1935@...> wrote:
>
> All casinos in Minnesota are Indian and under the Minnesota Indian Gaming Compact VP can only pay up to (98%).  Treasure Island, Red Wing, MN has many VP games.  All are multi game/demon.  At $1 and up they have DB 9/6/5 (97.8%) DDB 9/5/4 (97.87%) JOB 8/5 (97.3%). Slot club points depend upon tier level and = .02 up to 1.0% cash value.  Also comps and free play.  I am at the top Diamond level and receive 5x points or 1.0% and $120 weekly free play plus comps, ect.
>
>
> From: kcace1024 <cy4873@...>
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 2:14 PM
> Subject: [vpFREE] Treasure Island casino in Minnesota
>
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>  
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> I have second hand information that this Indian casino has a lot of video poker machines. There is nothing on VPfree. Thanks for any information.
>
> Chris
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Palms - Big Split question

 

The only full pay 20-10 version , that I have seen, is at the Peppermill
reno and available from 25C to $5.
----- Original Message -----
From: "pyiddy" <pyiddy@att.net>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 9:05 AM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: Palms - Big Split question

> There are actually two 16-15 versions though I have never seen the 20-10
> (SF-Quads) version (except to practice online at ledgaming.com) which is
> 100% ER. The 16-15 multipliers 16-8 version (99%) is the highest ER game
> at one of the casinos I monitor.
>
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[vpFREE] Palms question

 

Rumor has it that the Palms has axed its 3 25C 9/6 bdlux + sequential royal machines. Can anybody confirm ?
thanks...Tom

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[vpFREE] LVRJ: Hooters Hotel creditor moves to take over property

 

LVRJ: Hooters Hotel creditor moves to take over property

http://www.lvrj.com/business/top-hooters-hotel-creditor-moves-to-take-over-property-130479403.html

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[vpFREE] Re: Pressing your bet

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, 007 <007@...> wrote:
> I assume that no one's utility
> function is exactly logarithmic, but that everyone's approximates it,
> which I believe is required for the Kelly Criterion to be in
> contention as the optimal approach to gambling.

I think that's correct, assuming your primary goal is to grow your bankroll. It could be that you gamble for other reasons. If you were more risk-seeking you could "press your bet" beyond Kelly. If you were risk-neutral (linear function) the optimal would be to bet it all if possible. But when would you stop? If you continue with betting it all, wouldn't that be risk-seeking, since you would be increasing your odds of busting out? Does long term risk-neutral entail betting less than the full bankroll, perhaps a long term ROR of 50%? And if you were more risk-averse you could bet any fraction of Kelly since you would be getting a reasonable tradeoff of less risk for less reward. A lot of people recommend betting a fraction of Kelly, so perhaps a lot of people are a bit more risk-averse than log utility? Steve Jacobs if he's still around would know for sure.

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[vpFREE] Hosts

 

Does anyone know if either Phil Lam or Kara Montanarella are hosting or who the best host/hostess is at the Red Rock ?
Also, what are the best games at the M. I know they have 9/5 or 9/6 JOB, as well as a bank of 3 play which I believe were APDW. Thanks

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Pressing your bet

 

I miss Frank and his participation here.

From: nightoftheiguana2000 <nightoftheiguana2000@yahoo.com>
>To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 4:19 PM
>Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Pressing your bet
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> 
>--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, 007 <007@...> wrote:
>> If you believed
>> your utility function were linear, so that you believed you had no
>> diminishing marginal utility of money, would you still prefer the
>> Kelly Criterion over betting your entire bankroll on any advantage?
>
>I think if you had a linear utility function of money you would play maxEV strategy and max bet or bet it all on any edge, actually you don't even need an edge, you just need an acceptable win rate. If you're willing to play double or nothing for it all at 51 to 49, why not 49 to 51? Is that 2% really that significant in this case? Or how about 51 to 49 but if you win there's a 10% rake? A linear function would mean that you would fear losing it all no more than you would fear any other result, you would be indifferent to losing a dollar out of a million or your last dollar. Seems to me you would call that "someone who doesn't respect money." They would either be filthy rich from birth or have connections to unlimited amounts of cash or be an ascetic or wish to be one or simply a person who really doesn't understand money, what it takes to get it and what it means to lose it, a typical teenager?. It might also be some sort of psychological reaction, a
person might be addicted to gambling and fear losing it all but would convince themselves they don't care to overcome their fear of losing. If Frank's still around that's probably right up his court.
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[vpFREE] Re: Pressing your bet

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, 007 <007@...> wrote:
> If you believed
> your utility function were linear, so that you believed you had no
> diminishing marginal utility of money, would you still prefer the
> Kelly Criterion over betting your entire bankroll on any advantage?

I think if you had a linear utility function of money you would play maxEV strategy and max bet or bet it all on any edge, actually you don't even need an edge, you just need an acceptable win rate. If you're willing to play double or nothing for it all at 51 to 49, why not 49 to 51? Is that 2% really that significant in this case? Or how about 51 to 49 but if you win there's a 10% rake? A linear function would mean that you would fear losing it all no more than you would fear any other result, you would be indifferent to losing a dollar out of a million or your last dollar. Seems to me you would call that "someone who doesn't respect money." They would either be filthy rich from birth or have connections to unlimited amounts of cash or be an ascetic or wish to be one or simply a person who really doesn't understand money, what it takes to get it and what it means to lose it, a typical teenager?. It might also be some sort of psychological reaction, a person might be addicted to gambling and fear losing it all but would convince themselves they don't care to overcome their fear of losing. If Frank's still around that's probably right up his court.

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Re: [vpFREE] Mugged & Caught

 

WOW!  How many people get robbed in Vegas everyday and it ends much worse
and doesn't get this kind of attention?  I'm sure that due to Karen's demeanor, accurate
reporting of the details and swift action that police made the effort to catch this guy
and were successful!  Great going Karen!

Jean H--
 
Life is ten percent what you make it
and ninety percent how you take it!

From: William Gatti <gattb@comcast.net>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: Mugged

Here is the link to the story:

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/15530446/man-accused-of-robbing-women-outside-
casinos

Bill Gatti

-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jean Scott
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 1:49 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Mugged

I just saw this story on Channel 8 News. Karen, they didn't give your name
but just your age!!!! :) or :(
________________
Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler
http://queenofcomps.com/
You can read my blog at
http://jscott.lvablog.com/

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Tipping the Valet

 

     Okay,okay,okay,okay....I have read the forum for years and the one topic I HATE is any topic on tipping.  It always brings out the worst in people.  Stop it.  Tip what you want, ignore what other people tip, if someone asks what they should tip, tell them to tip what they feel comfortable with.  Now-can we please get on with VP....Thanks for letting me air....Rod
--- On Fri, 9/23/11, what7do7you7want <what7do7you7want@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: what7do7you7want <what7do7you7want@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Tipping the Valet
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 23, 2011, 10:56 PM

 

If, as you say, there is no such thing as over-tipping, then
you are claiming (correctly I believe) that the amount to tip
is SUBJECTIVE and a matter of personal preference.

But then turn around and accuse someone of being a "cheap ass"
for (presumably) under-tipping.

You cannot have it both ways.

QZ

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gofastnismo" <gofastnismo@...> wrote:
>
>
> Theres no such thing as over tipping and no one is telling you what to do. If Im a moron then you must be cheap ass(probably tip 25 cents for a drink.) Damn some of you old people are grumpy.
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Lucy" <luckylucyano9@> wrote:
> >
> > I find that some people like to overtip (because they are rich or morons, most likely the second) and then like regular people to follow suit. You can tip whatever excessive amount you want but don't tell me what to do. Thank you very much!
> >

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[vpFREE] Re: Tipping the Valet

 


If, as you say, there is no such thing as over-tipping, then
you are claiming (correctly I believe) that the amount to tip
is SUBJECTIVE and a matter of personal preference.

But then turn around and accuse someone of being a "cheap ass"
for (presumably) under-tipping.

You cannot have it both ways.

QZ

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gofastnismo" <gofastnismo@...> wrote:
>
>
> Theres no such thing as over tipping and no one is telling you what to do. If Im a moron then you must be cheap ass(probably tip 25 cents for a drink.) Damn some of you old people are grumpy.
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Lucy" <luckylucyano9@> wrote:
> >
> > I find that some people like to overtip (because they are rich or morons, most likely the second) and then like regular people to follow suit. You can tip whatever excessive amount you want but don't tell me what to do. Thank you very much!
> >

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