[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 8 SEP 2013

 

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 8 SEP 2013

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http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=3148

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[vpFREE] RE: Re: Cheapstravaganza Trip Report - Live

 

 Thanks Flusher. Really enjoy your reports. Was nice finally meeting you briefly at 4Q

Lin



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Flight Home Over The Blue Moon

http://www.royalflushervegas.com/2013/09/flight-home-over-blue-moon.html

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Las Vegas the Royal Flusher Way!
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[vpFREE] RE: New Video Poker Game - Bonus Discard Poker

 

 Thanks for the updates.  If you are having trouble, give Chrome a try.  I think someone else had issues at first but after switching to Chrome, they could adjust the size of the screen or browser and it played with no problems.



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For me it works with Firefox but not with Internet Explorer 8.
 
Glen
 
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I have a newly patented video poker game for everyone to try.  The game is called Bonus Discard Poker and the instructional video is located at: http://youtu.be/Dzthk0ogppI


The demo is located at: http://gagstan.com/cards/

I'm still working out the math, but all feedback is welcomed!

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[vpFREE] Vegas Values Report - 8 SEP 2013

 

Vegas Values Report - 8 SEP 2013

http://www.americancasinoguide.com/vegas-values/september-8-2013-vegas-values-report.html

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http://tinyurl.com/q4d4ute

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RE: Re: [vpFREE] RE: RE: RE: Full House vs Three Aces in 10/7 DB

 

>At MSS with the scratchers, holding just the 3 aces is the correct play.


The answer is "it depends". In gambling, the answer is always "it depends".



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At MSS with the scratchers, holding just the 3 aces is the correct play.
 
JAS
 
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noti, fwiw, the real crux of my post was that attempting to moderate the risk of 10/7 DB by holding FH over 3A is like trying to tame a house fire with a squirt gun ...

You can go ahead and delve into the bankroll math on this one if you want, but it's my guess that anyone who finds themselves sweating this particular hold and it's impact on overall volatility is likely over their head in playing the game in the first place.

 



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Sure, the occasional dopamine hit from quad aces feels like "fun", but the more likely outcome is burning $35 and the cortisol/stress hit that goes with that. So, the overall question is: does the rare dopamine hit from breaking aces full and drawing quad aces compensate for the frequent cortisol hits of missing the draw? As far as the Kelly system goes, it's just cold mathematics, you are either taking too much risk for your current bankroll or you are not. Of course "too much bankroll risk" is likely to end in a nasty bout of cortisol/stress/bankroll-shrinkage and not the final dopamine hit you were hoping for after all. Read "Fortune's Formula" if you want real life stories of what happens when Mr. Kelly's math is ignored.

 

 

 

 



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When I started playing 10/7 DB I had similar thoughts (although they were primarily focused on the risk tradeoff in holding 3A vs the sure win FH ... a nominal EV benefit with a significant risk increment).
Over time, however, I found that going for the $50 "sure win" didn't make much of a dent against the variance of the balance of the game.  Ultimately, I decided to just indulge in the thrill of the 3A draw, with greater satisfaction.


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I'm sure for many players this is an obvious, no-brainer, one of the first rules you learned, sort of thing. You keep the Aces, duh...



But after having it come up more than a few times during practice with WinPoker on the iPad, I disagree (at least for many players).



Let's say you are playing 10/7 DB at the $1 level and your bankroll is ok but not extravagant for the game, with an additional 0.20% back in comps/cashback. And a guy sitting next to you offered you a game that returns 101.15% with a little over a third the variance with no comps/cashback but you have to play it at the $10 level.



The choice to keep three aces is agreeing to play a game at $50 a hand that returns 101.15% with variance of 10.



The choice to keep the full house is to choose to play your original game at $5 per hand, returning 100.3% or so (adding comps/cashback and deducting for errors) with variance of 28.



I don't claim to be able to do bankroll calculations in my head, but I think there are many people who would consider themselves sufficiently bankrolled for $5 a hand 10/7 DB returning 100.3% that would not consider themselves bankrolled for $50 a hand at 101.15%. I don't doubt some of you would jump at the chance to play $50 a hand 101.15% with variance 10 and would be right to do so. But many of us, myself included might wipe out their bankroll waiting for the long run to show up.

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Re: [vpFREE] New Video Poker Game - Bonus Discard Poker

 



For me it works with Firefox but not with Internet Explorer 8.
 
Glen
 
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Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 4:57 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] New Video Poker Game - Bonus Discard Poker

 

I have a newly patented video poker game for everyone to try.  The game is called Bonus Discard Poker and the instructional video is located at: http://youtu.be/Dzthk0ogppI


The demo is located at: http://gagstan.com/cards/

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Re: [vpFREE] RE: RE: RE: Full House vs Three Aces in 10/7 DB

 

At MSS with the scratchers, holding just the 3 aces is the correct play.
 
JAS
 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:14 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] RE: RE: RE: Full House vs Three Aces in 10/7 DB
 


noti, fwiw, the real crux of my post was that attempting to moderate the risk of 10/7 DB by holding FH over 3A is like trying to tame a house fire with a squirt gun ...

You can go ahead and delve into the bankroll math on this one if you want, but it's my guess that anyone who finds themselves sweating this particular hold and it's impact on overall volatility is likely over their head in playing the game in the first place.

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Sure, the occasional dopamine hit from quad aces feels like "fun", but the more likely outcome is burning $35 and the cortisol/stress hit that goes with that. So, the overall question is: does the rare dopamine hit from breaking aces full and drawing quad aces compensate for the frequent cortisol hits of missing the draw? As far as the Kelly system goes, it's just cold mathematics, you are either taking too much risk for your current bankroll or you are not. Of course "too much bankroll risk" is likely to end in a nasty bout of cortisol/stress/bankroll-shrinkage and not the final dopamine hit you were hoping for after all. Read "Fortune's Formula" if you want real life stories of what happens when Mr. Kelly's math is ignored.

 

 

 

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

When I started playing 10/7 DB I had similar thoughts (although they were primarily focused on the risk tradeoff in holding 3A vs the sure win FH ... a nominal EV benefit with a significant risk increment).
Over time, however, I found that going for the $50 "sure win" didn't make much of a dent against the variance of the balance of the game.  Ultimately, I decided to just indulge in the thrill of the 3A draw, with greater satisfaction.


--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I'm sure for many players this is an obvious, no-brainer, one of the first rules you learned, sort of thing. You keep the Aces, duh...



But after having it come up more than a few times during practice with WinPoker on the iPad, I disagree (at least for many players).



Let's say you are playing 10/7 DB at the $1 level and your bankroll is ok but not extravagant for the game, with an additional 0.20% back in comps/cashback. And a guy sitting next to you offered you a game that returns 101.15% with a little over a third the variance with no comps/cashback but you have to play it at the $10 level.



The choice to keep three aces is agreeing to play a game at $50 a hand that returns 101.15% with variance of 10.



The choice to keep the full house is to choose to play your original game at $5 per hand, returning 100.3% or so (adding comps/cashback and deducting for errors) with variance of 28.



I don't claim to be able to do bankroll calculations in my head, but I think there are many people who would consider themselves sufficiently bankrolled for $5 a hand 10/7 DB returning 100.3% that would not consider themselves bankrolled for $50 a hand at 101.15%. I don't doubt some of you would jump at the chance to play $50 a hand 101.15% with variance 10 and would be right to do so. But many of us, myself included might wipe out their bankroll waiting for the long run to show up.

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[vpFREE] RE: New Video Poker Game - Bonus Discard Poker

 

 Thanks for checking it out Albert.



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 Glad it worked for you and you enjoyed it.



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Your new game worked just fine on my Imac. It's a fun game and I would play it in the casino. One hand got a pair on top and a straight flush on discard hand. 5 x 40 for $200 win. Now if that happened in the casino I'd be a happy player. It is fun. Good luck!
rodinsocal

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[vpFREE] RE: Re: New Video Poker Game - Bonus Discard Poker

 

 Glad it worked for you and you enjoyed it.



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Your new game worked just fine on my Imac. It's a fun game and I would play it in the casino. One hand got a pair on top and a straight flush on discard hand. 5 x 40 for $200 win. Now if that happened in the casino I'd be a happy player. It is fun. Good luck!
rodinsocal

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[vpFREE] RE: Re: New Video Poker Game - Bonus Discard Poker

 

 Glad it worked for you and you enjoyed it.



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Your new game worked just fine on my Imac. It's a fun game and I would play it in the casino. One hand got a pair on top and a straight flush on discard hand. 5 x 40 for $200 win. Now if that happened in the casino I'd be a happy player. It is fun. Good luck!
rodinsocal

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