These days, people often complain they don't "see" jackpots in casinos like
in the "old days." TITO changed our perceptions a bit. Just an
observation, but if people are playing quarters and under many times they
just play thru a royal. I have. Sometimes someone nearby may be having a
very bad session. (Usually it's me.) But they don't want to make someone
feel bad either. The machines won't lock up and they don't want to call
attention to themselves. They simply cash out the ticket when they are
ready to leave. Some are complaining with thousands on their machine. You
never know for sure or how much they spent either. Many like to say, "I
only put a $20 in!" I've gone weeks and months without a royal. Yet, had
some streaks the other way too. I know locals who play every day and suffer
bad streaks and some visitors who play a few times a year and hit a royal
every trip. Go figure. Your story still doesn't sound unusual at all to me
and I also play at Santa Fe.
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
vp_nbi
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:21 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: are the Santa Fe Station 100%+ slant tops on the
level?
You have a point. I get that rate on the computer via a combination of mouse
and keyboard which I've been doing for a long time and am quite proficient
at. On the computer I can play continuously for long stretches, but there
are various breaks in casino play. These breaks however are not long and
don't invalidate the overall observation. Again, I've had lengthy dry spells
before, but someone else hit. During this dry spell I wasn't seeing anyone
else hit. So the picture is formed not only by my totals, but by those
playing concurrently as well.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com> , "Kamango_"
<vetsen@...> wrote:
>
> Is it possible you're not counting your hands correctly? That would
explain your not-even-possible 3k hands per hour as well as your
not-as-many-hands-as-you-thought royal drought.
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com> , "vp_nbi"
<nbi@> wrote:
> >
> > "8 royals so far"...blah...blah
> > In how many hands?
> >
> > Two+ cycles on two successive vacations with other players also striking
out over most of my playing time adds up to a huge number of hands. When
playing casually I crank out about 3k hands per hour. When focused even
more. And over most of the time in question there was at least one other
player matching or exceeding my speed. I'm well acquainted with dry spells.
Usually when I'm having one the players around me are not. Again, for the
scenario described we're talking a huge number of hands. We're easily in the
"American Coin" realm of numbers.
> >
> > Gaffed is nonsense? Keep telling yourself that. And if you're lucky
enough to confine your play to the legit machines within Nevada you might
even be ok over the long run. But for anyone well versed in firmware
programming alterations to the code may be challenging, but certainly well
within the realm of expertise of a competent programmer. It's been done
before and can be done again. My concern is not that machines are being
altered out in the field, but that they are not truly random when shipped by
the manufacturer and that the gaming board's testing isn't rigorous enough
to detect very subtle gaffing. I still believe that the overwhelming number
of machines in Nevada are legit. But situations come up that make a
reasonable person take notice. Which is why it makes sense to ask the
regulars.
> >
> >
> > >
> >
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