[vpFREE] Re: N-Play or Single line?

 

> Tim wrote: In my thinking, the only difference would be the swings, right?
> With 5c/10-play my swings would be like +/- $200
> With 50c/1-play my swings would be like +/- $2000

This isn't right. For Ten Play for the same total bet, you need about 0.18 times the bankroll you need for single line. So if your estimate for Ten Play is correct, the swings for 50c single play would be about $1,100, not $2,000 I'm pretty sure that Video Poker for Winners is the only software that gives you bankroll calculations for Triple Play, Five Play, Ten Play, and Spin Poker. Bob
>
>
Okay, Bob. Now you just gave me some incentive to buy VPW. I personally like the ten play. It's just a lot more fun, even though you don't get out as much wager per hour.

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[vpFREE] Neon Museum Discounts

 

The Frugal Princess Family is coming to visit us over New Year's and are interested in going to the Neon Museum. Anyone know of any discount tickets available?
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[vpFREE] Royal Flusher 40th Trip

 

Hi folks,

I'm on my way to Vegas for our 40th trip - I'll be updating the blog
as we go, so follow along, won't you?

http://www.royalflushervegas.com/2011/11/royal-flushers-40th-trip-begins.html

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RE: [vpFREE] N-Play or Single line?

 


Tim wrote: In my thinking, the only difference would be the swings, right?
With 5c/10-play my swings would be like +/- $200
With 50c/1-play my swings would be like +/- $2000 This isn't right. For Ten Play for the same total bet, you need about 0.18 times the bankroll you need for single line. So if your estimate for Ten Play is correct, the swings for 50c single play would be about $1,100, not $2,000 I'm pretty sure that Video Poker for Winners is the only software that gives you bankroll calculations for Triple Play, Five Play, Ten Play, and Spin Poker. Bob



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[vpFREE] Tonight's Gambling with an Edge

 



Tonight our guest will be Max Rubin
--- comp-hustling expert, author of Comp City, not to mention wit and raconteur. We're going to be
discussing a number of subjects, including:

a.
You get an offer from New York New York but do
all your play at the Luxor. Is this considered acceptable by the casino or a no
no?

b.
Does the MLife and other modern player tracking
systems change the rules for comp-hustling?

c.
There was a recent blackjack scam in San Diego
where players earned $7 million before they were caught. Max is associated with
the Barona casino, so we're going to be asking him about inside stuff about the
arrests and convictions that wasn't in the news.

d.
Speaking of Barona, recently some thieves there
broke into a display case that they thought had a lot more money than it
actually did. They did a number of pretty stupid things along the way.

e.
Munch and I will be talking about it before or
after Max's portion of the show, but two live poker players who don't like each
other very much have decided to handle their differences in a UFC-style fight.
And you can bet on who the winner is going to be!

Tune in tonight, 7-8 p.m. at 1230
am in Las Vegas, or from anywhere at www.klav1230am.com.
Tomorrow the broadcast will be archived on both my www.bobdancer.com and www.richardmunchkin.com Bob



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[vpFREE] Re: N-Play or Single line?

 

I thought about 10c/10-play...however, I think 4000 hands in a day is a very do-able thing and it will give me plenty of time actually ON that machine (rather than having idle time spent WANTING to gamble more)

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vp_wiz" <harry.porter@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "TIMSPEED" <corvetteracing87@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to decide what would be better..
> > I have a play with the following details:
> > 2% cashback
> > .35% comps
> > $20k coin-in per month (2 sessions of $10k each) must be given
> > 9/6 JoB (all variations)
> >
> > Would I be better to go with 5c 10-play or 50c 1-play?
> > In my thinking, the only difference would be the swings, right?
> > With 5c/10-play my swings would be like +/- $200
> > With 50c/1-play my swings would be like +/- $2000
> > 40k hands per session vs. 4k hands per session...
> >
>
>
> All other things equal, as you note, the expected swings of 10-play would be nominal compared to single line at the same total wager. Aside from that, the options are EV equivalent.
>
> The key issue is that generally, I find I'm only able to score about 70%-80% of the wagers in any given length of time on 10-play vs single line. Thus, you're looking at a longer session to achieve the same coin-in. Not too stiff a price to pay for the stronger bankroll security.
>
> FWIW, if it's an option, you will likely find 10c/10-play 9/6 JoB well within your 50c/1-play bankroll risk tolerance (up to the equivalent coin-in), and thus might be another attractive option. Just be aware that the ability to push up your total session coin-in does introduce a new bankroll risk.
>
> - H.
>

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[vpFREE] Re: N-Play or Single line?

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "TIMSPEED" <corvetteracing87@...> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to decide what would be better..
> I have a play with the following details:
> 2% cashback
> .35% comps
> $20k coin-in per month (2 sessions of $10k each) must be given
> 9/6 JoB (all variations)
>
> Would I be better to go with 5c 10-play or 50c 1-play?
> In my thinking, the only difference would be the swings, right?
> With 5c/10-play my swings would be like +/- $200
> With 50c/1-play my swings would be like +/- $2000
> 40k hands per session vs. 4k hands per session...
>

All other things equal, as you note, the expected swings of 10-play would be nominal compared to single line at the same total wager. Aside from that, the options are EV equivalent.

The key issue is that generally, I find I'm only able to score about 70%-80% of the wagers in any given length of time on 10-play vs single line. Thus, you're looking at a longer session to achieve the same coin-in. Not too stiff a price to pay for the stronger bankroll security.

FWIW, if it's an option, you will likely find 10c/10-play 9/6 JoB well within your 50c/1-play bankroll risk tolerance (up to the equivalent coin-in), and thus might be another attractive option. Just be aware that the ability to push up your total session coin-in does introduce a new bankroll risk.

- H.

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[vpFREE] N-Play or Single line?

 

I'm trying to decide what would be better..
I have a play with the following details:
2% cashback
.35% comps
$20k coin-in per month (2 sessions of $10k each) must be given
9/6 JoB (all variations)

Would I be better to go with 5c 10-play or 50c 1-play?
In my thinking, the only difference would be the swings, right?
With 5c/10-play my swings would be like +/- $200
With 50c/1-play my swings would be like +/- $2000
40k hands per session vs. 4k hands per session...

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[vpFREE] XVP: But a Humorous Gambling Related Story Nonetheless

 

Among his other holdings, one of my 5th great grand uncles, Moses Duke, was the proprietor of Rice Creek Springs Resort in Richland County, South Carolina. In 1822 he petitioned authorities for permission to set up a billiard table at the resort. So far I haven't been able to determine whether he was granted or denied permission. But what I have found is 4 pages documenting the several meetings held by authorities as they pondered the question of whether or not to allow the billiard table.

"Ya got trouble!
Right here in River City!
With a capital T!
That rhymes with P!
That stands for pool!

Yeah! We got trouble!
Right here in River City!
It starts with T!
And that rhymes with P!
And that stands for pool!

Yeah, we got trouble...."


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[vpFREE] Re: An AP question

 

"...> Here is one thing that is absolutely certain about "pulling the card": there is now a way that is being used to prevent your wins from being hidden by the card pull. I discovered this on one of the Norwegian cruise ships..."

Four ways you discovered this on the cruise:
1) The card reader displayed a message to effect: "WTF don't bother."
2) You asked
3) Another player mentioned it to you.
4) Casino security surrounded you as constant card pulling was picked up by cameras and you didn't have your lucky rabbit feet displayed. Where would they put you if your on a cruise ship and have been read the trespassed paragraphs?

When this software option became widely available, several casinos activated the message display option. Most don't display the message even though pulling your card has no effect.

Laughlin River Palms had the WTF message displayed after several years into our many visits to gamble at the 10/7 Double Bonus multi-strike; the crack cocaine of video poker. 10 years ago. We were dissapointed.

Advances in casino software is interesting. There's little deep knowledge on the internet. There's also casino mgmt/staffing human resources factors which can provide a gambler an advantage.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vp_a_gogo@...> wrote:
>
> <guruperf@>  wrote:
>  
> > Here is one thing that is absolutely certain about "pulling the card": there is
> now a way that is being used to prevent your wins from being hidden by the card
> pull. I discovered this on one of the Norwegian cruise ships. As long as there
> are credits left in the machine, pulling the card does not matter. All plays,
> wins, and losses will continue to accrue to the person whose card was last in
> the machine. So pulling a card with trip Aces won't have any effect- you might
> as well leave it in. Only cashing out the machine will stop their following of
> your play, and you can't do that in the middle of a hand.
>
> > When this will hit land-based casinos, I don't know - I haven't seen it there
> yet, but it is definitely there on at least one Norwegian ship, more probably
> all of them.
>  
> The card readers at the Rampart Casino in Las Vegas act just the way you described it. If you remove your card while there are still credits on the machine, the card reader says "Carded Session in Progress". The Palms also used this system for a few years, but I'm not sure if they still do. There are probably other casinos doing it also.
>

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[vpFREE] LVA Question of the Day - 17 NOV 2011

 

LVA Question of the Day - 17 NOV 2011

Q: Can you handle one more religious question? I have heard
over the years it boasted that: "Las Vegas has more churches
per capita then any other city in the U.S." Could that be
true???? Could it have been true in the past and not now?
When I visit a city like Atlanta it sure seems there are
more there than Las Vegas.

Read the answer here:

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/qod.cfm

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