Thanks to all that replied to my question. I found Mickey and fivespot's explanations to be especially helpful. I'm pretty good at plugging bonus payouts into Winpoker, but when it gets beyond that, I'm usually overwhelmed. I was glad to see that my gut feeling was pretty close to the correct answer.
Taking the 85,000 hand average to complete a Bingo card from fivespot, the $500 bonus on 25c denomination games adds about 0.47%, which is better than I have heard many people estimate. Dollar games don't fair so well since the bonus is only $1000 for 4X the coin-in. Personally, I would add strategy adjustments when I got down to the last one or two spots to shorten the cycle slightly. For example, if I was only missing the 25c RF and that spot would give me an extra $250 for completing the card, I would play an adjusted strategy with a RF value of $1,250.
[vpFREE] Re: Palms bingo cards
[vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 3 JAN 2011
tooncesthecatwhocoulddriveacar wrote:
> Casino Royale's has also changed. They have devalued a point so
> that 10,000 points = $1.
No wonder Joe Pucek no longer seems to be hosting dinners at Outback ;)
- H.
Re: [vpFREE] Re: How long is it?
I only gamble in LV and I live in Kentucky. Before the economy tanked I was
going to LV 5 to 6 times a year, now 2 times a year. When I am there, I
play long hours. Usually average about 8 to 9 hours per day. used to play
longer than that when I was younger but I am getting old.
In a message dated 1/7/2011 8:26:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
camwellcam@yahoo.com writes:
I am curious to know. Please share.
> Thank you.
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[vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 3 JAN 2011
Casino Royale's has also changed. They have devalued a point so that 10,000 points = $1. I didn't check how much it took to earn a point, but I'm pretty sure it was more than $1 (It used to be $6). They are continuously randomizing a point multiplier on the machine to offer you 10x to 100x every five minutes, which are still minimal given the very low base.
Re: [vpFREE] Re: A hot shot
If somebody asks me in a casino, the correct answer is "A hot shot is a
video slot poker game, commonly found in both spin and non spin varieties ,
with multiple progressive jackpots." ( PS - I'm lifetime ahead on these ! )
If a bowery bum, hobo, or homeless ask me , I'll use the below definition.
best...Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 3:23 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: A hot shot
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon" <SS2SWILD@...> wrote:
>>
>> OK I'll try again. 1st post did not go through.
>> It is someone jumping a freight train hauling priority cargo. Faster >and
>> less stops to get you there faster.
>> Sharon
>>
>>
>>
> Wow! I'm impressed. Sharon, you must be an old freight train rider.
> Several hot shots a day pass thru Las Vegas. It's those trains you see
> with the containers (better known as stackers) stacked one on top of the
> other.
>
> There are red lights and green lights out on the rails just like traffic
> lights. Sometimes too many trains are on the rails and some have to hit a
> sidetrack and wait for other trains to pass thru. The Hot Shots have the
> green light from San Bernardino all the way to Chicago. They are mostly
> carrying dry goods from Japan, Korea, and China. They make the run in
> about 54 hours.
>
> The rail cars that the containers are in are called "48's" simply because
> they are 48 feet long. Many of those cars have solid floors in them.
> There is about a four foot by 10 foot space at the rear. That's where all
> us railriders habitat.
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[vpFREE] Re: Mini Trip Report: Bellagio and Cosmopolitan
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Cogno Scienti <cognoscienti@...> wrote:
>
> Didn't they have a VIP lint for the buffet? If you're RFB you can use it.
>
> Cogno
>
In my experience, VIP lint doesn't add much to the buffet experience. But to each his own...
(Apologizing in advance,)
--Dunbar
RE: [vpFREE] A hot shot
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: dlvseuss@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:10:05 -0500
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] A hot shot
Slot machine
-------Original Message-------
From: Mickey
Date: 1/7/2011 3:50:16 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] A hot shot
Do any of you kids know what a Hot Shot is? Take a good guess. None of you
know what a Hot Shot is. It don't make you bad people. It just makes you
ignorant.
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[vpFREE] Re: How long is it?
I would say 4 hours on Friday, then 8 hours on Saturday/Sunday. So, 20 hours per week (wow, that's a damn part-time job! haha)
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, BANDSTAND54@... wrote:
>
> Greetings
>
> Now that I got your attention ,the reason I called this meeting is to find
> out on average how long this community of dedicated vp players spends
> actually playing their game(s) of choose. For me, it is usually between two and
> three hours. a day I went
> 260 times last year so I tend to not play as long as someone who may live
> further away and come less frequently. I am curious to know. Please share.
> Thank you.
>
>
> Ralph Gary
>
>
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>
RE: [vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 3 JAN 2011
Checking/working on it. Thanks for the heads up. Will post ASAP.
Scot
-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
vegasvpplayer
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 1:47 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Scot Krause's LVA Players Club Bonus Points Update - 3
JAN 2011
Silver Nugget and Opera House listings are incorrect. For January, both are
only having 6X points 2AM-6AM* Monday-Thursday per mailer.
*I thought I saw 2AM-8AM on the signs and posters but I may have read them
wrong.
[vpFREE] Re: How long is it?
typically, we go 3-4 times a week, various casinos when I'm home. howver, I travel for work which cuts into that a lot..so we probably average 2x per week, 3-4 hours each session
~cam
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, BANDSTAND54@... wrote:
>
> Greetings
>
> Now that I got your attention ,the reason I called this meeting is to find
> out on average how long this community of dedicated vp players spends
> actually playing their game(s) of choose. For me, it is usually between two and
> three hours. a day I went
> 260 times last year so I tend to not play as long as someone who may live
> further away and come less frequently. I am curious to know. Please share.
> Thank you.
>
>
> Ralph Gary
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Re: [vpFREE] A hot shot
Slot machine
-------Original Message-------
From: Mickey
Date: 1/7/2011 3:50:16 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] A hot shot
Do any of you kids know what a Hot Shot is? Take a good guess. None of you
know what a Hot Shot is. It don't make you bad people. It just makes you
ignorant.
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[vpFREE] Re: A hot shot
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
> Wow! I'm impressed. Sharon, you must be an old freight train rider. Several hot shots a day pass thru Las Vegas. It's those trains you see with the containers (better known as stackers) stacked one on top of the other.
>
> There are red lights and green lights out on the rails just like traffic lights. Sometimes too many trains are on the rails and some have to hit a sidetrack and wait for other trains to pass thru. The Hot Shots have the green light from San Bernardino all the way to Chicago. They are mostly carrying dry goods from Japan, Korea, and China. They make the run in about 54 hours.
>
> The rail cars that the containers are in are called "48's" simply because they are 48 feet long. Many of those cars have solid floors in them. There is about a four foot by 10 foot space at the rear. That's where all us railriders habitat.
>
> Freedom Fever! Catch it!
>
I find this interesting. I am pretty sure I know which ones you are talking about. I know there are different model or types of railroad cars that haul the containers. I did not know they were all 48'. I know some semi-trucks have refers at 53', but I guess from what you imply that all the "containers" are 48'. I learn something new every day. And the railroad cars, sometimes they are joined together in groups of five and they share one set of wheels (trucks) between two cars. I did not know about the hot shots as you call it, but I know they have some refer trains now that carry produce from California straight through and expedited. I think the company is Rail-Ex or something like that. Nowhere to ride on one of those, though.
That line through Vegas is a main artery. I see an enormous amount of traffic go through there. A lot of double-stacks too. I always wanted to hop a freight just for fun but never had the balls. I lived in LA and they would crawl out of the harbor and go up Alameda Street at a snail's pace. I thought if I ever did that I would have to pack a gun with me because I didn't know who I'd meet or where I'd end up. Maybe it's a good thing I never carried out that fantasy. Sounds dangerous. I'll leave that to you, Mickey, and reading your stories will suffice.
Re: [vpFREE] End of year rpt (probably long)
We are going out to LV in a couple of weeks, so when I get back I will do a
trip report. Pat
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[vpFREE] End of year rpt (probably long)
Boring afternoon so I mite's well do this rpt I've been thinking about.
Just finished my worst year since beginning Vp bout 8 years ago. Down $10,001 w/ everything considered (BB, CB). As it turns out, this is just about what I lost on my 4 trips to Vegas...no wins. Also lost $2500 last trip of 2009, but at least finished up that year about $3800 up out there. I used to be pretty much a 25c single liner, but this year did play a little more $1 plus alot of 25c QQ, mostly DDB, full play I mite add. I play about 10 hours/ week in midwest.
In Vegas never played less than 99.5% and usually better than that, but admittedly many times was not getting enuff CB, etc. to put me over 100%. Been averaging 3 to 4 trips out there for last 7/8 years and generally coming out ahead...not so this year.
A coupla interesting stories on 2010 experience.
Started out great. $2000 A's w/k, $4K+ royal, $1K royal & $1k A's w/k. By week 3 up about $7800. Then came QQ. Local casino added QQ, FP @ 25C & screwed up...had CB @ 1% slot rate rather than .5 VP rate. That, with DP several hours during the week made this a prime play. Very few people knew this & only a few of us hit it hard. Another play in this casino was 1 other machine had $1 progressive w/ 99.96% DDB & .5 CB. Again very few knew of this and tho a few players wud throw an occasional hundred at it, there were only 2/3 of us that wud sit there for an hour or so & beat on it. That BTW accounted for my early 2K & 4K.
This machine lasted quite a while & wasn't burned down till the BDA's hit it. We have a coupla pro's (they undoubtedly read this forum). They spen half their time in Vegas, the other half here, Well they came here early summer & hit the 1 machine constantly during double points. I don't know how well they did, but after a coupla weeks of that, the machine got knocked back to regular DDB...goodby sweet play. For some reason during this time, they left the QQ machines (w/ the good playtable + %1 CB) alone. I cudn't figure that out, but figured they either knew or suspected as we all did that the machines wud not be set up that way very long as the casino wud discover their mistake.
Well the machines did stay that way for quite some time. One day during DP time I went there & as usual if U weren't there when the place opened U didn't get a QQ machine. But what was different this time was the PRO was on one of the 2 machines & I'm sure stayed on it thruout DP period. I went there next day & sure enuff...no more 1%. It took him 1 day to burn that play down. In talking to another local, the casino was probably watching this dude as they've been making pretty good $ for quite awhile.
In hindsite, I miss the great play on the QQ, but we knew that wudn't last, but the $1 play just about makes me sick. That lasted a long time & I think wudda remained if not burned down.
So it's back to Vegas again in Feb. Another loss & I think I'll stay local. Hopefully even tho I know I'm playing highly volatile DDB QQ, it'll treat me a little better in 2011. As we say, it only takes 1 hand. This last weekend it gave me 4 to royal 5 times. Managed to beat the odds on my 10 hands each & get 2 of them, but any of them being the dealt royal I'm quite a ways behind in cycles on & I'm back to even.
Someone in the last day or so said we're boring him to death. I do agree the forum had been a little dry lately, thankfully we got Mick & Frank going w/ some stories. Need to see some trips reports or something to liven things up. Good luck all in 2011.
RE: [vpFREE] Mini Trip Report: Bellagio and Cosmopolitan
Didn't they have a VIP lint for the buffet? If you're RFB you can use it.
Cogno