[vpFREE] LVRJ: Caesars selling St. Louis property to Penn National

 

LVRJ: Caesars selling St. Louis property to Penn National

http://www.lvrj.com/business/caesars-selling-st-louis-property-to-penn-national-150518405.html

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[vpFREE] Re: XVP - Derby Picks

 

CoachVee
I just want to congratulate you on your deby picks. I am a long time horse player and your picks were maybe the best handicapping on such a large feild of horses I have ever seen

For those who don't know Coach gave out the winner AND second place horse. This was not just any winner but a winner that returned $32.60 for a $2 dollar bet. THEN if you bet the winner with his second place horse it returned $306.00 for a $2 dollar bet.

It is easy to pick favourites but to post a 15 to 1 shot as your pick takes courage and great handicapping. I was impressed coach. Cnogratulations and thank you!

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, coachvee@... wrote:
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> Hi Gang:
> For those who are curious how my Kentucky Derby picks panned out, you can
> go to my web site, _www.tomthebombpicks.com_
> (http://www.tomthebombpicks.com) , and check out my home page. Hint: My subscribers are very happy ... and
> wealthy ... campers these days.
> Regards,
> CoachVee
>
> PS: A new Derby weekend trip report and a new racing blog will up on the
> site as well in a day or two.
>
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Royal Flusher Vegas Revenge Live - updated

 

I very much agree, but I get a little tired of my drinks coming out my nose.

--- On Tue, 5/8/12, vpdeuces <vpdeuces@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: vpdeuces <vpdeuces@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Royal Flusher Vegas Revenge Live - updated
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 12:26 AM

 

IMVHO, Royal Flusher is a national treasure (or perhaps a national treasure who happens to be Canadian) and I enjoy his blogs more than anything I've read.

Drew

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Royal Flusher <royalflusher@...> wrote:

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> Some cool craps stuff, after the Royal.

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[vpFREE] Re: Royal Flusher Vegas Revenge Live - updated

 

IMVHO, Royal Flusher is a national treasure (or perhaps a national treasure who happens to be Canadian) and I enjoy his blogs more than anything I've read.

Drew

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Royal Flusher <royalflusher@...> wrote:
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> Some cool craps stuff, after the Royal.

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[vpFREE] Palms

 

I was at the Palms last Thursday. My friend was a new sign-up for the players club. The deal was that within 24 hours, any losses up to $500 would be rebated at about 25-30%. Playing full pay not so ugly deuces (near the club desk) at 50-cents, he lost about $200, and got $50 free play rebate. He can get additional rebate if he returns within 6 months, and more still if he then returns within a year.

I played on the machine next to him (couldn't get the deal since I already had signed up years ago), and this happened:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ5uS-d7nkc

We went to the buffet that evening, and I got my first-ever senior discount. It was a Thursday-only promotion, with movie & buffet discount, small prize give-a-way, etc, for anyone over 50.

Stuart (RandomStu)
http://stuart-randomthoughts.blogspot.com/

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[vpFREE] Re: Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 6 MAY 2012

 

Jean, because my analysis has been largely theoretical/simulation and I have only limited time booked on the game, I can't help but to defer to your experience.

I can only suggest that the math aligns with a $1 4-level game as being roughly on par with $5 single line in terms of win/loss experience. From what I understand, your experience is sharply at odds with that expectation.

My limited play of the game isn't out of lack of interest ... the mechanics are such that in the venues I play it generally is only played at a disadvantage to single line play.

Even where similarly strong paytables are available, the .25% MS ER boost is dwarfed when play speed is considered. And, with my most viable options being $.25 MS vs $1 single line, MS comes out short as a consequence in terms of overall hourly EV and relative risk ($.25 MS has roughly 120% of the wager weighted variance of $1 single line).

So, in my case, I'm not drawn to it. (Give me a decent $.10 5-play MS paytable and I might change my tune ;).

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Queen of Comps" <queenofcomps@...> wrote:
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> <<For those appropriately bankrolled for $5 play, I wouldn't expect someone to deem $1 MS play "brutal".>>
>
> I usually agree with you, vp wiz, but not this time - from the viewpoint of someone who has played thousands and thousands of hours of MS. Brad and I have the bankroll to play â€" and we do play â€" up to $250 a hand (mostly on multi-lines at the higher levels). We have a high tolerance for big losses â€" although we don’t think they are as much “fun” as wins. But we feel more frustrated more often with MS, even on the lower level of quarters, than on any other form of VP. “Brutal” is not a math term, I guess, but it describes our feeling when we go an extremely long time without a win, with many surprisingly large losses.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 6 MAY 2012

 

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----- Reply message -----
From: "Queen of Comps" <queenofcomps@cox.net>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Jean Scott&apos;s Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 6 MAY 2012
Date: Mon, May 7, 2012 11:01 am
<<For those appropriately bankrolled for $5 play, I wouldn't expect someone to deem $1 MS play "brutal".>>

I usually agree with you, vp wiz, but not this time - from the viewpoint of someone who has played thousands and thousands of hours of MS. Brad and I have the bankroll to play – and we do play – up to $250 a hand (mostly on multi-lines at the higher levels). We have a high tolerance for big losses – although we don't think they are as much "fun" as wins. But we feel more frustrated more often with MS, even on the lower level of quarters, than on any other form of VP. "Brutal" is not a math term, I guess, but it describes our feeling when we go an extremely long time without a win, with many surprisingly large losses.

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Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler

http://queenofcomps.com/

You can read my blog at

http://jscott.lvablog.com/

From: vp_wiz

Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 3:20 AM

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 6 MAY 2012

"VpKing77" wrote:

>

> Jean and Brad must be one of the lucky ones that hit a couple of

> top line royals. It is not uncommon to lose over $5000 on a $1 9/6

> MS in two hours. Come in the next day and do the same.

Lower that threshold to about $4K in 2 hours and I expect you're pretty much on target. (It's my guess, off the top off my head, that odds drop considerably for a >= $5K loss, considering that the wager-weighted variance of 4-level Jacks play is roughly on par with $5 single line play.)

For those appropriately bankrolled for $5 play, I wouldn't expect someone to deem $1 MS play "brutal". (Not saying that was your characterization, VPKing.) Bear in mind that even if you never see that approx 1:320000 top line hit, you're still playing with an ER that's close to playing the same game in single line format (albeit with volatility at something like 1.2x that of the total wager played on a single line game).

Still, I can understand why some people will drive expectation based on the somewhat misleading "$1" denomination of the game.

- H.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 6 MAY 2012

 



Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

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From: "Queen of Comps" <queenofcomps@cox.net>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Jean Scott&apos;s Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 6 MAY 2012
Date: Mon, May 7, 2012 11:01 am
<<For those appropriately bankrolled for $5 play, I wouldn't expect someone to deem $1 MS play "brutal".>>

I usually agree with you, vp wiz, but not this time - from the viewpoint of someone who has played thousands and thousands of hours of MS. Brad and I have the bankroll to play – and we do play – up to $250 a hand (mostly on multi-lines at the higher levels). We have a high tolerance for big losses – although we don't think they are as much "fun" as wins. But we feel more frustrated more often with MS, even on the lower level of quarters, than on any other form of VP. "Brutal" is not a math term, I guess, but it describes our feeling when we go an extremely long time without a win, with many surprisingly large losses.

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Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler

http://queenofcomps.com/

You can read my blog at

http://jscott.lvablog.com/

From: vp_wiz

Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 3:20 AM

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 6 MAY 2012

"VpKing77" wrote:

>

> Jean and Brad must be one of the lucky ones that hit a couple of

> top line royals. It is not uncommon to lose over $5000 on a $1 9/6

> MS in two hours. Come in the next day and do the same.

Lower that threshold to about $4K in 2 hours and I expect you're pretty much on target. (It's my guess, off the top off my head, that odds drop considerably for a >= $5K loss, considering that the wager-weighted variance of 4-level Jacks play is roughly on par with $5 single line play.)

For those appropriately bankrolled for $5 play, I wouldn't expect someone to deem $1 MS play "brutal". (Not saying that was your characterization, VPKing.) Bear in mind that even if you never see that approx 1:320000 top line hit, you're still playing with an ER that's close to playing the same game in single line format (albeit with volatility at something like 1.2x that of the total wager played on a single line game).

Still, I can understand why some people will drive expectation based on the somewhat misleading "$1" denomination of the game.

- H.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 6 MAY 2012

 

<<For those appropriately bankrolled for $5 play, I wouldn't expect someone to deem $1 MS play "brutal".>>

I usually agree with you, vp wiz, but not this time - from the viewpoint of someone who has played thousands and thousands of hours of MS. Brad and I have the bankroll to play – and we do play – up to $250 a hand (mostly on multi-lines at the higher levels). We have a high tolerance for big losses – although we don't think they are as much "fun" as wins. But we feel more frustrated more often with MS, even on the lower level of quarters, than on any other form of VP. "Brutal" is not a math term, I guess, but it describes our feeling when we go an extremely long time without a win, with many surprisingly large losses.

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Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler
http://queenofcomps.com/
You can read my blog at
http://jscott.lvablog.com/

From: vp_wiz
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 3:20 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 6 MAY 2012

"VpKing77" wrote:
>
> Jean and Brad must be one of the lucky ones that hit a couple of
> top line royals. It is not uncommon to lose over $5000 on a $1 9/6
> MS in two hours. Come in the next day and do the same.

Lower that threshold to about $4K in 2 hours and I expect you're pretty much on target. (It's my guess, off the top off my head, that odds drop considerably for a >= $5K loss, considering that the wager-weighted variance of 4-level Jacks play is roughly on par with $5 single line play.)

For those appropriately bankrolled for $5 play, I wouldn't expect someone to deem $1 MS play "brutal". (Not saying that was your characterization, VPKing.) Bear in mind that even if you never see that approx 1:320000 top line hit, you're still playing with an ER that's close to playing the same game in single line format (albeit with volatility at something like 1.2x that of the total wager played on a single line game).

Still, I can understand why some people will drive expectation based on the somewhat misleading "$1" denomination of the game.

- H.

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[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 7 MAY 2012

 

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 7 MAY 2012

"News Flash for Low Rollers"

http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=2001

<a href="http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=2001">
http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=2001</a>

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[vpFREE] XVP - Derby Picks

 

Hi Gang:
For those who are curious how my Kentucky Derby picks panned out, you can
go to my web site, _www.tomthebombpicks.com_
(http://www.tomthebombpicks.com) , and check out my home page. Hint: My subscribers are very happy ... and
wealthy ... campers these days.
Regards,
CoachVee

PS: A new Derby weekend trip report and a new racing blog will up on the
site as well in a day or two.

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[vpFREE] Beau Rivage Biloxi.

 

Arrived Sunday about 4pm. Check in very busy. Had two comped nights. Asked for and got a room overlooking pool and ocean. Nice room and bathroom. Sat round pool for a couple of hours. Nice pool and hot tub.Bar and snacks available. Little on the pricey side but service excellent and food and drinks ok. After returning to room decided to eat went to Coast Brew Bar. Had crab cakes followed by for me a veggie burger and my wife a jumbo hot dog had a list of great toppings to chose from also shared portion of steak fries. Food was good quality crab cakes excellent. We had far too much and were unable to finish. definitly recommend a visit. Used our express points.
Now on to gaming. My wife tried to find to friendly slots. Having looked at VPFree2 knew the downside of the VP. Being a glutton for punishment played anyway. After about 3 hours beating we had lost our bankroll for the two days we are here. Verdict VP terrible serves me right for not heading the numbers. Slots apparently not much better. the final crunch came this morning when found the instead of 10 times points to advance tier score as in Vegas its 2 times in the Beau Rivage. Hoped to qualify for Platinum this visit. Decided if we come again will pay for room and play a lot more sparingly. The hotel is nice staff friendly, casino smokey. Going to The Grand on tuesday did well last time there VP marginly better.
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[vpFREE] Wanda Young, former casino host

 

Former host at MSS and Golden Nugget.

Recently passed away in Phoenix.

This classy lady will be missed.

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[vpFREE] Re: Foxwoods/Mohegan/mgm

 

I understand all that but 9-6 JOB and 8-5 BP with no comps are head and shoulders over the 8-5 JOB or 7-5 BP with .37% cash and a 5 buck mailer.
I only play 400 hands an hour so my losses are very acceptable considering the lousy alternatives available to the under $1 player in Connecticut.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "straub4" <straub@...> wrote:
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>
>
> The four 9/6 quarter JoB machines at MS pays no comp point or comps at all despite volume of play or losses. So you can expect to lose about $5.00 an hour with no comps to offset it. The only advantage to this play is that since it is at a bar, you might get more frequent free drinks than you would get on the floor.
>
> The 50c 8/5 BP is available on the floor, but again you get no points or comps. So at 750 hands per hour and an 0.83% loss you would/can expect to lose about $15 per hour.
>
> There is no FP Pick'em at the 25c level. The 25c game returns about 97% for a 3%+- loss.
>
> If you can afford to play at the $1.00 level or the $5.00 level, they do have FP Pick'em, which is nearly breakeven at 99.95%, but again pays no comp point or comps at all despite your volume of play or losses.
>
> ST
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@> wrote:
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> > Not exactly true. There's quarter 9-6 JOB and 50 cent BP at Mohegan. High limit 9-6 JOB at Foxwoods and 99.95% Pick Em at Mohegan.
> > At Foxwoods when my wife drags me there I usually play nickels one nickel at a time, just to get a few drinks.
> > That should tell you what low level pay schedules at FW are like.
> > Mohegan is a nicer property all around.
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, rcc2267775@ wrote:
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> > > Save your money . Nothing but cash burners here .
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