Re: [vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 18 NOV 2014

 

A.P. – perhaps you don't understand the purpose of my blog. It is not a news column. It is to write down my thoughts about gambling, casinos, Las Vegas, gamblers, or anything else I darn well want to talk about.

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Must have been a slow news week.

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Re: [vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 18 NOV 2014

 

Must have been a slow news week.

A.P.


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Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 18 NOV 2014

Getting to Know the Greenbacks

http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=3680

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[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 18 NOV 2014

 

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 18 NOV 2014

Getting to Know the Greenbacks

http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=3680

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RE: [vpFREE] Bob Dancer's LVA - 18 NOV 2014

 

Why must I disagree with NOTI again? Bob Dancer was totally correct in playing max ev. Who knows what the casino thinks? Bob is well financed and he was playing within his bankroll. What do you tell the CEO - the truth, he got lucky. Using your min royal strategy he would most likely have won more money (not counting his royal). It is also very likely that he would not have hit his royal. Just a guess on my part but by using your min royal strategy he would have lost at least $95,000 and "maybe" gotten some offers worth a few thousand before he used them up. No one can win with a min royal strategy consistently because after the first big play his next play would be considerably less action in order to still have positive expectation. I am quite sure Bob is happy with his max ev play (if a play is going to end when a royal is hit, it might as well be him). If you're not well financed to play the game you are probably better off playing max ev with positive expectation than playing a negative expectation and hoping the casino gives you great offers. Also a casino still might keep the game even with your royal hit. Keep it simple and go for max ev instead of using esoteric strategies that may not work.

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RE: [vpFREE] Bob Dancer's LVA - 18 NOV 2014

 

5/8 of a million dollars in action and SLS needs to see more to send you good offers. How dare they!! They should give you the casino for a day.

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RE: [vpFREE] Bob Dancer's LVA - 18 NOV 2014

 

This is how it really went down. The casino needed to get some action to justify the special high-roller room. So they juiced it a bit, offering to match other casino's offers in freeplay. There were lots of looky-loo's but no bites, not even a nibble or a nudge, until Bob got hooked. But Bob did make a crucial mistake, he used maxEV strategy, and ran well, beating the machine straightup even without the royal he hit. The problem now is that it's very hard for the casino to offer Bob more juice, after all it appears that even if he didn't hit a royal, he would still beat the machine. How do you sell that story to the CEO? Had he played min-Royal strategy instead, he would have reduced his odds of hitting the game ending royal and likely would have lost some on the drop as well, making it easier for the casino to offer some additional juice. Let's hope Bob learns a valuable lesson from this experience, perhaps he will even write about that in his column, after all you learn from your mistakes, not from your achievements.

(In case anyone wants to know what strategy I'm calling minRoyal, the basic idea is that you maximize the return of the non-royal hands, by setting the royal value to zero in your strategy generator of choice you get something like: 3A>FH>4SF>2A>2P>HP>4FL>4STo3-1H>LP>4STo>3FL3-2H>3SF0>AKQJ>2FL2H>4STi3H>3SF1> KQJ>4STi2H>QJ>A>2H>3FL1H>1H>3SF2>4STi)







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RE: [vpFREE] Bob Dancer's LVA - 18 NOV 2014

 

I thought the article demonstrated the need to be well bankrolled to play these low margin/how volatility games. And I enjoyed reading it.

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> Interesting article, although aside from telling us what happened I'm not sure if there was a point being made, other than it's another casino that opened loose, got beat and tightened up too much. The same thing happened at the "M" and the Downtown Grand, and I'm sure many others.
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RE: [vpFREE] Bob Dancer's LVA - 18 NOV 2014

 

<<Interesting article, although aside from telling us what happened I'm not sure if there was a point being made, other than it's another casino that opened loose, got beat and tightened up too much. The same thing happened at the "M" and the Downtown Grand, and I'm sure many others.>>

I think the point was that no matter how loudly you announce that you never play without a healthy advantage over the casino, and no matter for how many years you repeat the message, some casino managers are still stupid enough to let you play.

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Re: [vpFREE] Bob Dancer's LVA - 18 NOV 2014

 

Interesting article, although aside from telling us what happened I'm not sure if there was a point being made, other than it's another casino that opened loose, got beat and tightened up too much. The same thing happened at the "M" and the Downtown Grand, and I'm sure many others.

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Bob Dancer's LVA - 18 NOV 2014

My Adventure at the SLS --- Part 2 of 2

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[vpFREE] Bob Dancer's LVA - 18 NOV 2014

 

Bob Dancer's LVA - 18 NOV 2014

My Adventure at the SLS --- Part 2 of 2

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2014/1118.cfm

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[vpFREE] Scot Krause's Real Deals - 18 NOV 2014

 

Scot Krause's Real Deals - 18 NOV 2014

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