[vpFREE] Re: XVP - good eats

 

Try Uncle Angelo's Pizza Joint at Jerry's Nugget.

Best Italian food for the price I've had in town.

~FK

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> Off topic - I just had the best chicken parmigiana in my life at a small Italian deli on tropicana and jones called La Duca's NY deli
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[vpFREE] XVP - good eats

 

Off topic - I just had the best chicken parmigiana in my life at a small Italian deli on tropicana and jones called La Duca's NY deli

Annie (originally from Brooklyn NY)

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RE: [vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 15 MAY 2011

 


I was just curious is Jean or Brad or both have ever been 86'd? I'd also like to know if so, how they handled it and were they able to get all their comps and cash back returned?

James Thompson

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[vpFREE] LVRJ: New Pinnacle casino is named "L'Auberge Baton Rouge"

 

LVRJ: New Pinnacle casino is named "L'Auberge Baton Rouge"

http://www.lvrj.com/business/las-vegas-based-pinnacle-announces-name-for-baton-rouge-casino-121896054.html

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[vpFREE] Re: Getting Banned from Rampart Casino

 

No matter what, if all those jackpots belonged to YOU personally...even over the course of a year...you basically hurt a small casino like that. Of COURSE they're going to throw you out!
I say good for you, cripple the fuckers then leave em high and dry.

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> i was kicked out a couple of months ago...i only posted the pictures a few days ago....also, those pictures are from time span of a year...obviously, in between those jackpots, i had many big losing days....but your point is well taken, so i will delete the pictures
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> > After a couple of months of playing video poker at Rampart Casino, I was approached by two security guards and was told the owners no longer wanted my business and I had to leave immediately.So, if you play at Rampart (and our fortunate enough to get a good winning streak), don't be surprised if you suddenly find two security guards escorting you out of the building.
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> > Perhaps the slot director reads VPFree? Posting ten pictures of jackpots totaling more than $213,000 just isn't wise? The suits are lying when they say "congratulations". They're really pissed off that you had the audacity to take their money. They just don't realize that you can lose a shit load of cash just as fast as those dealt jackpots came.
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[vpFREE] Re: Need Polite Reply-contest

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Barry Glazer <b.glazer@...> wrote:
>It is likely true that there is less to make the casino suspicious that one is an advantage player when one plays VP and is not winning, but I fail to see the logic in saying that being trespassed, even when ahead, is a player advantage -- if that were true, wouldn't the casino NOT trespass players, but instead let them stay so that the casino can realize it's edge (oh, wait, the casino doesn't have an edge in this case).

1. Just because someone is winning, doesn't mean they have a long term edge.

2. Just because someone is playing a theoretically positive machine, doesn't mean they have a long term edge.

3. Casinos should not trespass players just for winning, but they do. When they trespass a winner who would otherwise lose in the long term, that is a casino disadvantage and a player advantage. From my limited observations, it's not the pros who get trespassed (they are smart enough to figure ways around such problems), it's mostly gamblers that the casinos would beat in the long term.

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[vpFREE] vpFree2 listing for Hard Rock Hollywood FL

 


Can anyone verify the listing for 25c 9/6 JOB?

I found the others but I could not find the "three on the left on the back wall."

Any help would be appreciated.

Doug


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[vpFREE] Re: Need Polite Reply-contest

 

> 10c. Re: Need Polite Reply-contest
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> "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
> > From anonymous: I think one of the biggest advantages
> we have over casinos is the ability to walk out when we are
> losing. If you don't leave when you are losing, how can you
> expect to come out ahead?
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> forced to leave when you are winning, you have by definition
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> greater than the casino win tolerance, you have an edge even
> over a breakeven game (your edge is roughly proportional to
> the ratio of your bankroll to the casino trespass limit).
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Casinos don't trespass gamblers just because they are winning (at least not usually); they trespass gamblers when they identify them as advantage players from whom they are not likely (in terms of probability) to recover any winnings the player has gained. Casinos may occasionally trespass a player who they incorrectly THINK is an advantage player, but who is not, while that player is winning, and that IS an advantage for THAT player.

Furthermore, it is NOT an advantage for the "gambler" (if that term can be applied to the advantage player, and since the games all have an element of chance that assures that not all skilled players will win, even in the long run, I think the term DOES apply) to be trespassed when you are identified as a winning player, as it removes the opportunity to realize future winnings.

True, you may actually be trespassed while you are actually ahead, but trust me from blackjack experience, if a casino identifies you as an advantage player, they will gladly trespass you if you're losing at the time (and in fact, will be thrilled that they caught you on a downswing before you cost them a penny; this has happened to me more than once). It is likely true that there is less to make the casino suspicious that one is an advantage player when one plays VP and is not winning, but I fail to see the logic in saying that being trespassed, even when ahead, is a player advantage -- if that were true, wouldn't the casino NOT trespass players, but instead let them stay so that the casino can realize it's edge (oh, wait, the casino doesn't have an edge in this case).

Casinos want you to continue to play, regardless of your wins and losses, as long as they can afford to pay you off, IF they expect you to lose in the future.

If being "forced" to leave a casino when one is ahead is an advantage for the advantage player / gambler, then all such gamblers have the capacity to administer this advantage to themselves, by leaving the premises only when winning, which is what the questioner is suggesting is a correct strategy (combined with leaving when you're losing).

Part of the problem lies in how to define "I'm losing" and "I'm winning" -- is it where you are relative to when you started playing, or relative to a few minutes ago, or relative to a half hour ago, or what? A lot of people get ahead at a game, and then lose some (but not all) of their profit, and now say they are "losing".

And when do you allow yourself to go back into that casino (or any casino, if you accept that they're all the same)? If you can go back in right away, then you really didn't leave, did you? And of course, if you go back in five minutes later, the machines don't know the difference, do they? And if you go back in tomorrow, same story. So, unless you think it makes a difference how long you are not inside the casino, if you ever go back in, then you've never really left.

IF one plays games with a casino edge over the player, one is ALWAYS more likely to be losing than winning in the long run; it's just a question of how long you are willing to stay and realize the long run expectation -- and this guy seems to be willing to stay until he is losing, every time. At what point in your play do you decide you are "losing" and leave -- after you lose the first bet? No matter when, at some point, you are sure to leave a loser, because that's the only condition under which you are allowing yourself to leave - so you will ALWAYS leave a loser. If you stay while you're winning, eventually you will become a loser, and leave a loser.

Now, if the guy says, no, when I'm winning AT FIRST, and then I START losing, that's when I leave -- then he's not really leaving while losing, he's leaving while winning, but winning less than some point earlier in time. Make up your mind.

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RE: [vpFREE] Calculating loss probability for 50/100 play?

 


You may want to take a look at:

www.jazbo.com


> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> From: will@express-pc.com
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 16:22:39 +0000
> Subject: [vpFREE] Calculating loss probability for 50/100 play?
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> I've been trying to search online for this and I'm not coming up with anything. It's relatively easy to determine, within a standard deviation, what your probability is for single-line games such as 9/6 Jacks. What I'm not sure about, however, is for 50/100 play games, with a given bankroll.
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> For example -- a few months ago, a friend wanted me to calculate probabilities for getting Diamond in a Day on a $5 9/6 machine, without factoring in cashback/comps/etc. I came up with the following (I don't have my work here, sorry):
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> -$8,900 to -$5,200: 0.16%
> -$5,200 to -$1,500: 32%
> -$1,500 to $2,200: 59%
> $2,200 to $5,900: 4.2%
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> I'm trying to find something similar, but for, say, a $1 50-play 9/6 Jacks machine. How would I go about this? I don't know how the multi-hand aspect of it changes variance (other than to say "it increases it by some number").
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Re: [vpFREE] Calculating loss probability for 50/100 play?

 

<will@express-pc.com> wrote:
> I've been trying to search online for this and I'm not coming up with anything.  It's relatively easy to determine, within a standard deviation, what your probability is for single-line games such as 9/6 Jacks.  What I'm not sure about, however, is for 50/100 play games, with a given bankroll.

what you want is here:

http://wizardofodds.com/videopoker/appendix3.html

cheers,

five

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Re: [vpFREE] Calculating loss probability for 50/100 play?

 

I've heard that either the standard deviation or variance is a multiple of the square root of the number of lines times that of a single line machine, which makes intuitive sense.

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[vpFREE] xvp-Bob Marley

 

I had the pleasure to attend his show here in Maine (his home state). He was fantastic. I am not a fan of comedy but all of us-the
entire room-roared for over an hour plus non stop. His humor was what I would call Maine based but I am curious about his material elsewhere. If you should win the tickets, please use them or make sure someone else does, enjoy..

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[vpFREE] Re: Anyone been to West Wendover, NV?

 

>>Heading out there on a roadtrip. I plan to stop by for a night. What do
you recommend as the best property for amenities, VP, comps, etc.? Where
would I have the best chance of scoring a same-day room comp?<<

Stay away from the Red Garter, but other than that you can probably find
something worth playing at the rest of the places in town. (On the rare
event I need a room in Wendover, I use the mailer from the Nugget, so I don't
know what any of the places would do for you on a same-day basis.) If
you're looking for the most up-scale place in Wendover, I'd probably vote for
Montego Bay.

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[vpFREE] Calculating loss probability for 50/100 play?

 

I've been trying to search online for this and I'm not coming up with anything. It's relatively easy to determine, within a standard deviation, what your probability is for single-line games such as 9/6 Jacks. What I'm not sure about, however, is for 50/100 play games, with a given bankroll.

For example -- a few months ago, a friend wanted me to calculate probabilities for getting Diamond in a Day on a $5 9/6 machine, without factoring in cashback/comps/etc. I came up with the following (I don't have my work here, sorry):

-$8,900 to -$5,200: 0.16%
-$5,200 to -$1,500: 32%
-$1,500 to $2,200: 59%
$2,200 to $5,900: 4.2%

I'm trying to find something similar, but for, say, a $1 50-play 9/6 Jacks machine. How would I go about this? I don't know how the multi-hand aspect of it changes variance (other than to say "it increases it by some number").

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