[vpFREE] Linda Boyd Video - FEB 2012

 
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Is the RF frequency average the same for single line and multi line?

 

Thanks H.  The 3 RFs at SP significantly reduced my RF average.

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From: vp_wiz <harry.porter@verizon.net>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:02 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Is the RF frequency average the same for single line and multi line?

  >RF cycles are the same for single line and multiline. However, it's more likely that you'll suffer a drought in multiline. The opposite side of that coin is that it's also more likely that you'll hit multiple royals within a limited span of hands.

>The obvious factor behind this is that multiple hands are sourced from a single deal. This makes strings of unusually good or bad outcomes more likely in multiplay.

- H.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bob Vp <bobvp4809@...> wrote:
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> On single-play deuces (FPDW, NSUD, and DDW), I have played about 220,000 hands since my last royal.  On last week's Vegas trip, I played  the 50 play NSUD @ South Point for a few hours .  I hit 3 royals on 42,000 hands (10,500 points earned X 4 because I played all 50 lines of $.05 NSUD).  My 50 play total hands is about 120,000 hands, all @ SP.
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>  My question is - does the royal average equate to 50 play or are there separate averages for multi-play games?  I know variance is slightly less on multi-play games and would like to know if the RF cycle average also differs.  If there is a cycle difference, what is the frequency on 50 line NSUD?  Also, what is the formula that I can use to compute RF cycles on multi-play games? 
 
>> Thanks,
> Bob
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[vpFREE] Re: Tropicana Bogus Promotion

 

I agree with the administrator. Personally I enjoy Coach's trip
reports. Out of all the vpFREE members he is the only poster I've
ever read about who never, ever loses.
I wish I could play with the same results.
rodinsocal

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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling With an Edge

 



Very good reply Bob.

Thanks for starting to post in Vpfree again.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dancer <bobdancervp@...> wrote:
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> Three different people posted the following: I assume you don't recall Michael's work at the Barbary Coast. Say, how did that turn out for them? If you're curious, it's called Bill's now.
> Hey, I got a question for Gaughan, "How come there are no FPDW at South Point?
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> The FPDW were taken out a long time before he sold BC. Gaughan sold the Barbary Coast, along with the other Coast Casinos, to Boyd for $1.3 million in 2004. In 2006 he bought back the South Coast, renaming it South Point, for $576 million --- which was less than it cost to build. Insofar as the "How did that work out for them?" question, I'd say "pretty well." When I started teaching at the South Point in 2008, I requested they put in quarter FPDW, 10/7 DB, and 10/6 DDB. They did --- in the corridor by the slot club booth and the statue of Benny Binion. They lasted a little over a year. The reason they were taken out is that Gaughan has an over-riding philosophy that all video poker machines should be treated equally --- for mailers, promotions, etc. Making them $2 = 1 point or $4 = 1 point or not available for promotions (like other casinos do who still have these games) was not something he was willing to do. Without making those changes, the machines were losing more money than he was comfortable with. I argued with him at great length to make an exception for this bank of machines --- and I was unsuccessful. The machines never came back.
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> I doubt they will. Since then, FPDW are gone from almost everywhere. The primary place they exist now is Stations/Fiesta --- who have a very aggressive policy of restricting players who have the gall to play these machines appropriately. It wouldn't surprise me if they were removed altogether from these casinos before we see 2013. There are many players who have played FPDW for years. It's easy to get an edge at that game. These players don't want to put up with lesser games where it is harder to get an edge --- and it requires a lot of study to gain competence in these other games. I don't blame the players for feeling that way. Doing things the way you've always done them is comfortable and doesn't require learning new skills. But the world has changed and it's not going back. If you want to succeed at video poker today, you either need to fight over the few remaining FPDW machines (for as long as you're welcome to do so) or adapt to the many other ways there are at succeeding at the game. It's not always true, but frequently the players who complain the loudest about this are the ones who are least able to adapt successfully to the changes. Success at video poker follows a Darwinian Survival of the Fittest model. Approximately as many players succeed today as did before --- but they are not all the same people. A new guard of players have used computers and studied and gained the skills to replace some of the old guard. The old guard used to be able to win at this game and are now finding they don't have the ability to compete with the new guard without studying --- which they've forgotten how to do. And they are not happy about it. And so they complain bitterly and play the blame game. Bob
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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Gambling With an Edge

 


Three different people posted the following: I assume you don't recall Michael's work at the Barbary Coast. Say, how did that turn out for them? If you're curious, it's called Bill's now.
Hey, I got a question for Gaughan, "How come there are no FPDW at South Point?

The FPDW were taken out a long time before he sold BC. Gaughan sold the Barbary Coast, along with the other Coast Casinos, to Boyd for $1.3 million in 2004. In 2006 he bought back the South Coast, renaming it South Point, for $576 million --- which was less than it cost to build. Insofar as the "How did that work out for them?" question, I'd say "pretty well." When I started teaching at the South Point in 2008, I requested they put in quarter FPDW, 10/7 DB, and 10/6 DDB. They did --- in the corridor by the slot club booth and the statue of Benny Binion. They lasted a little over a year. The reason they were taken out is that Gaughan has an over-riding philosophy that all video poker machines should be treated equally --- for mailers, promotions, etc. Making them $2 = 1 point or $4 = 1 point or not available for promotions (like other casinos do who still have these games) was not something he was willing to do. Without making those changes, the machines were losing more money than he was comfortable with. I argued with him at great length to make an exception for this bank of machines --- and I was unsuccessful. The machines never came back.


I doubt they will. Since then, FPDW are gone from almost everywhere. The primary place they exist now is Stations/Fiesta --- who have a very aggressive policy of restricting players who have the gall to play these machines appropriately. It wouldn't surprise me if they were removed altogether from these casinos before we see 2013. There are many players who have played FPDW for years. It's easy to get an edge at that game. These players don't want to put up with lesser games where it is harder to get an edge --- and it requires a lot of study to gain competence in these other games. I don't blame the players for feeling that way. Doing things the way you've always done them is comfortable and doesn't require learning new skills. But the world has changed and it's not going back. If you want to succeed at video poker today, you either need to fight over the few remaining FPDW machines (for as long as you're welcome to do so) or adapt to the many other ways there are at succeeding at the game. It's not always true, but frequently the players who complain the loudest about this are the ones who are least able to adapt successfully to the changes. Success at video poker follows a Darwinian Survival of the Fittest model. Approximately as many players succeed today as did before --- but they are not all the same people. A new guard of players have used computers and studied and gained the skills to replace some of the old guard. The old guard used to be able to win at this game and are now finding they don't have the ability to compete with the new guard without studying --- which they've forgotten how to do. And they are not happy about it. And so they complain bitterly and play the blame game. Bob

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[vpFREE] Re: 3/5 NSU in Vegas?

 

Is this something new? I have never seen these. Where and at what denomination are they?

GimmeaQuad

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> Subject: [vpFREE] 3/5 NSU in Vegas?
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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling With an Edge

 

The FPDW were taken out a long time before he sold BC.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <johndive@...> wrote:
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> I assume you don't recall Michael's work at the Barbary Coast. Say, how did that turn out for them? If you're curious, it's called Bill's now.
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "pumsparky" <dianalnagy@> wrote:
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> > Hey, I got a question for Gaughan, "How come there are no FPDW at South Point?
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[vpFREE] LVA Question of the Day - 2 MAR 2012

 

LVA Question of the Day - 2 MAR 2012

Q: How does the new 1000X odds on craps at the Riviera change
the game? Will this help the player or not?

Read the answer here:

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