Has anyone else noticed that a David N. has 5 photos out of 12 pasted for winners this year on the right facing club attendants? He was playing game king keno. He has 2/12 photos on the left side.
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Feel much better now. I try not to be superstitious but everything felt bad that day and I was not mentally prepared for that. I got around 72 tier points on $600.
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> 24 straight? That's a 1 in 2,080,000 beating... And one I never hope to experience.
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> On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:31 AM, "richard d" <cdgnpc@...> wrote:
> > Last year I tried to do DIAD. I had sent them a cashiers check for 10K. The flight, hotel, ground trans all went wrong. When I tried to set up my account some supervisor was yelling and saying demeaning things to the employee where anyone can hear. On my way to the machines I ran into a drunk and an aggressive hooker and went on to lose 24 straight hands of VP $5 JOB. I said I am not listening to the message and walked out. When I tried to get my money back what a speech. Now I realize they thought I was using them as a check cashing service when the reality was that trip just creeped me out.
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Getting screwed for 24 hands at $25 a pop doesn't sound like her usual 9-5.
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> Last year I tried to do DIAD. I had sent them a cashiers check for 10K. The flight, hotel, ground trans all went wrong. When I tried to set up my account some supervisor was yelling and saying demeaning things to the employee where anyone can hear. On my way to the machines I ran into a drunk and an aggressive hooker and went on to lose 24 straight hands of VP $5 JOB. I said I am not listening to the message and walked out. When I tried to get my money back what a speech. Now I realize they thought I was using them as a check cashing service when the reality was that trip just creeped me out.
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "igtddb" <rgj21@> wrote:
> >
> > Further to Bob's point about "walking with a marker", many clubs--all MGM properties and TI for two examples that I can personally verify--have a fairly effective way of preventing this. Any markers taken out in the high limit slot rooms are only issued in tickets and therefore must be played through the machines at least once.
> >
> > This is a policy that has changed in maybe the last four or five years. In former times, cash was an available option. I thought that the change was the result of enhanced enforcement of the federal money laundering laws, but I am sure that Bob is correct in saying that it serves the casinos' purposes as well Very high rollers may be given cash if they demand it, I think.
> >
> > The same policy is applied to funds wired to one's casino credit account. If it is withdrawn for machine play, it must be in ticket form--at least at MGM properties. I have no idea how this is handled at table games.
> >
> > As a result of this policy, neither markers nor wire transfers are exactly an effective substitute for carrying large amounts to cash to Vegas to play as you wish.
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> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, vpFREE Administrator <vpfree3355@> wrote:
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> > > Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 4 JUN 2013
> > >
> > > "Using Markers in Casinos"
> > >
> > > http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2013/0604.cfm
> > >
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rgj21 wrote: Further to Bob's point about "walking with a marker", many clubs--all
MGM properties and TI for two examples that I can personally
verify--have a fairly effective way of preventing this. Any markers
taken out in the high limit slot rooms are only issued in tickets and
therefore must be played through the machines at least once.
I can't speak to MGM properties --- I'm not welcome to play there.
However,
at Caesars properties (at least Paris and Planet Hollywood) and at the
Palms, Cashier Vouchers do not have to be played through. You can insert
them and then cash them out immediately. The tickets look almost the
same but the large words "Cashier Voucher" get changed to "Cashout
Ticket" (or some such.) These tickets (assuming they are small enough)
may be redeemed immediately at any change machine.
The Palms tickets only come in $1000 units --- so that's plenty small enough to cash out at a change machine. If you get a marker for $20,000 or so, most places will let you decide what increments you want the Cashout Vouchers in. A request for ten $2,000 vouchers would likely be honored immediately.
I'm not suggesting it's smart to do this on any kind of regular basis --- but it is easily done.
Bob
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As tomski likes to say, "he beat the odds!" :)
Scot
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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 4 JUN 2013
24 straight? That's a 1 in 2,080,000 beating... And one I never hope to
experience.
On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:31 AM, "richard d" <cdgnpc@aol.com
<mailto:cdgnpc%40aol.com> > wrote:
> Last year I tried to do DIAD. I had sent them a cashiers check for 10K.
The flight, hotel, ground trans all went wrong. When I tried to set up my
account some supervisor was yelling and saying demeaning things to the
employee where anyone can hear. On my way to the machines I ran into a drunk
and an aggressive hooker and went on to lose 24 straight hands of VP $5 JOB.
I said I am not listening to the message and walked out. When I tried to get
my money back what a speech. Now I realize they thought I was using them as
a check cashing service when the reality was that trip just creeped me out.
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24 straight? That's a 1 in 2,080,000 beating... And one I never hope to experience.
On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:31 AM, "richard d" <cdgnpc@aol.com> wrote:
> Last year I tried to do DIAD. I had sent them a cashiers check for 10K. The flight, hotel, ground trans all went wrong. When I tried to set up my account some supervisor was yelling and saying demeaning things to the employee where anyone can hear. On my way to the machines I ran into a drunk and an aggressive hooker and went on to lose 24 straight hands of VP $5 JOB. I said I am not listening to the message and walked out. When I tried to get my money back what a speech. Now I realize they thought I was using them as a check cashing service when the reality was that trip just creeped me out.
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Unless there's some angles like Cash WinFall:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2012/07/31/inspector_general_says_lottery_allowed_gambling_syndicates_to_take_over_winfall_game/
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "kcace1024" <cy4873@...> wrote:
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> Nordo wrote Powerball is usually a negative ev play. Are you kidding? Even at the record high I doubt it is positive after you take the huge tax bite. Powerball players don't get the special hedge fund manager tax rate.
>
> Mr Crimm is correct when he says this is a tax on the poor and the math morons. Full disclosure I do contribute to an office pool when jackpots get high because I don't want to be the one guy left out. We only have an office pool when the jackpot gets really high and there is some entertainment value in listening to everyone's plans for their share of the jackpot.
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nordo123@" <Nordo123@> wrote:
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> >
> > Powerball is usually a negative expectancy play, however for people with a non-linear utility value for money (usually poor people) it might
> > be a play. When you look at things from another persons perspective you learn.
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Last year I tried to do DIAD. I had sent them a cashiers check for 10K. The flight, hotel, ground trans all went wrong. When I tried to set up my account some supervisor was yelling and saying demeaning things to the employee where anyone can hear. On my way to the machines I ran into a drunk and an aggressive hooker and went on to lose 24 straight hands of VP $5 JOB. I said I am not listening to the message and walked out. When I tried to get my money back what a speech. Now I realize they thought I was using them as a check cashing service when the reality was that trip just creeped me out.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "igtddb" <rgj21@...> wrote:
>
> Further to Bob's point about "walking with a marker", many clubs--all MGM properties and TI for two examples that I can personally verify--have a fairly effective way of preventing this. Any markers taken out in the high limit slot rooms are only issued in tickets and therefore must be played through the machines at least once.
>
> This is a policy that has changed in maybe the last four or five years. In former times, cash was an available option. I thought that the change was the result of enhanced enforcement of the federal money laundering laws, but I am sure that Bob is correct in saying that it serves the casinos' purposes as well Very high rollers may be given cash if they demand it, I think.
>
> The same policy is applied to funds wired to one's casino credit account. If it is withdrawn for machine play, it must be in ticket form--at least at MGM properties. I have no idea how this is handled at table games.
>
> As a result of this policy, neither markers nor wire transfers are exactly an effective substitute for carrying large amounts to cash to Vegas to play as you wish.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, vpFREE Administrator <vpfree3355@> wrote:
> >
> > Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 4 JUN 2013
> >
> > "Using Markers in Casinos"
> >
> > http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2013/0604.cfm
> >
> >
> > *************************************************
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Bob Bartop wrote:
> For a long time, they used to say whether a casino has "bounceback", yes
> or no, when you click on the 'Players Club' tab. Now I notice that most
> Vegas casinos do not mention it anymore. And it had to be changed recently.
> They must have gone through almost the whole database recently. Just
> wondering why they don't mention bounceback now.
It seems to me that vpFREE2 is making a good improvement by removing
useless information. When the original database was first designed in
2002, bounceback was not universal, so it was valuable information to
show which casinos had it and which did not. Now just about every
casino has bounceback, so it's more efficient to just note which ones
do not.
You can ask the vpFREE2 site owner about this by using the Contact Us
link on vpfree2.com.
vpFREE Administrator
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They get a % of the play for bringing everyone to the casino but how do the rooms work? I am told they don't count against player comps but is it free to the operator or discounted? Anyone know for sure?
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Yes, it is probably hideous and I think they charge for admission which is an interesting concept.
Has anyone tried it and can report some details?
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> Full disclosure I do contribute to an office pool when jackpots get high because I don't want to be the one guy left out. We only have an office pool when the jackpot gets really high and there is some entertainment value >in listening to everyone's plans for their share of the jackpot.
There is also positive EV in that situation in NOT being the only dumb SOB left in the office to do all the work, after everybody else bails out with their winnings ; )
Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra
There
is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate
preparation to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein
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