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Rec'd letter last week (almost 6 mths from the date of filing), that an additional 180 days required to review, any applicable interest will be paid , blah blah. Had been forewarned by friend what was happening with Canadians filing just prior to receipt.
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Well, tada! I received my US tax return today. My wife, on the other hand, received a letter about three weeks ago advising her that it would take another four to six weeks to process hers.
We filed, by mail, in early January, 2015. I do not believe electronic filing is an option for us. This original attempt at filing failed - it was either lost in the US mail, or at the IRS. We refiled in early March - so it's been a mere nine months for mine to be processed, and it looks like hers will be ten or eleven months! Travesty is too mild a word, in my opinion, to describe all this.
There is a long list of countries having tax treaties with the US that provide for zero withholding. I can't fathom why our Canadian government hasn't secured the same provision for its citizens.
Worse still, our combined withholdings for 2015 are about triple those of 2014. Who knows when we'll recover that!
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Unfortunately the IRS has slowed to a crawl in the past year or three when
processing a number of routine requests. I needed to prove US residency for
tax treaty purposes, and the IRS's incredible sloth nearly sparked an
international incident with Germany. I had to beg Frau Birkenbauer for an
extra month (after six months had elapsed). She acceded, but made it clear
that this was not how she conducted her affairs.
Ed
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Barry Glazer b.glazer@att.net [vpFREE] <
vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> I'm not from Canada so can't share any personal experience. Not being
> familiar with the filings needed to get an out-of-U.S. refund, I don't know
> if electronic filing is an option, but if so, my experience as a U.S.
> taxpayer is that electronic filing has sped up my refunds substantially.
> Even if electronic filing is available I'm not sure that out-of-U.S.
> refunds haven't been "carved out" of the efficiency.
> All the "other factors" are irrelevant, but it certainly is not right. I
> also don't know if you get paid interest on a delayed refund (we do), but
> even if you do, rates are so low that it doesn't amount to adequate
> compensation. If you don't, it sucks even more.
> Be assured that almost no one in the U.S. likes our tax system or its
> administration or its policies very much either.
> As to whether it will affect tourism to the U.S., I'm sure a small
> percentage of people will choose not to come to the U.S. because of this,
> but I don't think the numbers are likely big enough to have any significant
> impact on anything, least of all any changes in the way things are
> handled. Tax laws are already ruining advantage play for all but the
> pro's, and the rest of the picture is ruining it for almost everyone, as
> you surely observe if you follow this list. Gamblers, including
> recreational gamblers, receive almost no concern from the U.S. tax system
> at all and are, if anything, a target for more grief instead of grief
> relief.
> Clearly it's not a good business decision for Congress to underfund the
> IRS, which administers the main source of income for the government, but it
> certainly is a good business decision by the IRS to then prioritize its
> reduced resources away from processing refunds - this would even make good
> sense for the government with regard to U.S. citizens' refunds, since the
> only "alternative" for the citizen is to under-withhold (if an option) and
> avoid refunds -- a strategy many / most already try to use. Good for the
> U.S. of course, not for its "customers" who are mostly a captive audience.
> --BG=================
> 6a. 2014 Tax refund delayed
>
> I was just wondering if there were any Canadian players that are still
> waiting for their refunds from the IRS?
>
>
> I sent my Tax forms in January of 2015 and I am still waiting for my
> refund. I was told that their were cutback in the IRS and that tax returns
> for residents out side of the US will be put on the back burners.
>
>
> I was told that the refunds would be delayed by 6 months and I accepted
> that. Then I was informed that the 6 month delay would not start till June
> 15 and that these returns would be processed by December 15, 2015, well
> that has not happened and now I'm being told that this refund will only be
> looked at sometime in 2016.
>
>
> It's a real travesty as many Canadian gamblers come to Vegas, they pay big
> dollars for flights and are burdened with the exchange rate which now is
> 30% and this is how the US government is treating the people that bring in
> big money and some of their best customers/tourists. It just doesn't make
> sense.
>
>
> They take 30% of all jackpots over $1199.00 and when we file legitimate
> tax returns we are being denied the right to even have these processed in a
> timely manner if at all.
>
>
> I just want to know your opinions on whether you think this is right and
> fair and if this along with other factors will affect the Canadian tourist
> industry.
>
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>
>
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I'm not from Canada so can't share any personal experience. Not being familiar with the filings needed to get an out-of-U.S. refund, I don't know if electronic filing is an option, but if so, my experience as a U.S. taxpayer is that electronic filing has sped up my refunds substantially. Even if electronic filing is available I'm not sure that out-of-U.S. refunds haven't been "carved out" of the efficiency.
All the "other factors" are irrelevant, but it certainly is not right. I also don't know if you get paid interest on a delayed refund (we do), but even if you do, rates are so low that it doesn't amount to adequate compensation. If you don't, it sucks even more.
Be assured that almost no one in the U.S. likes our tax system or its administration or its policies very much either.
As to whether it will affect tourism to the U.S., I'm sure a small percentage of people will choose not to come to the U.S. because of this, but I don't think the numbers are likely big enough to have any significant impact on anything, least of all any changes in the way things are handled. Tax laws are already ruining advantage play for all but the pro's, and the rest of the picture is ruining it for almost everyone, as you surely observe if you follow this list. Gamblers, including recreational gamblers, receive almost no concern from the U.S. tax system at all and are, if anything, a target for more grief instead of grief relief.
Clearly it's not a good business decision for Congress to underfund the IRS, which administers the main source of income for the government, but it certainly is a good business decision by the IRS to then prioritize its reduced resources away from processing refunds - this would even make good sense for the government with regard to U.S. citizens' refunds, since the only "alternative" for the citizen is to under-withhold (if an option) and avoid refunds -- a strategy many / most already try to use. Good for the U.S. of course, not for its "customers" who are mostly a captive audience.
--BG=================
6a. 2014 Tax refund delayed
I was just wondering if there were any Canadian players that are still waiting for their refunds from the IRS?
I sent my Tax forms in January of 2015 and I am still waiting for my refund. I was told that their were cutback in the IRS and that tax returns for residents out side of the US will be put on the back burners.
I was told that the refunds would be delayed by 6 months and I accepted that. Then I was informed that the 6 month delay would not start till June 15 and that these returns would be processed by December 15, 2015, well that has not happened and now I'm being told that this refund will only be looked at sometime in 2016.
It's a real travesty as many Canadian gamblers come to Vegas, they pay big dollars for flights and are burdened with the exchange rate which now is 30% and this is how the US government is treating the people that bring in big money and some of their best customers/tourists. It just doesn't make sense.
They take 30% of all jackpots over $1199.00 and when we file legitimate tax returns we are being denied the right to even have these processed in a timely manner if at all.
I just want to know your opinions on whether you think this is right and fair and if this along with other factors will affect the Canadian tourist industry.
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