Re: [vpFREE] Re: Smoking Bans - WAS Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas BLOG - 13 JAN 2...


In a message dated 1/21/2008 11:29:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
deuceswild1000@yahoo.com writes:

How many times can you split that hair?

Well, that three percent represents a LOT of people.


Karen

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would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot."
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[vpFREE] DANGER VENETIAN SLOT tourney GRAND LUX COUPONS

As a guest at the slot tourneys the Venetian often gives a coupon for food at the GRAND LUX Cafe. The coupon is somewhat misleading in that if you receive a $20 coupon it is inclusive of an 18% gratuity and also the tax. So a $20 coupon is really only about $15 and the tax and tip is paid. This sounds real good in theory... However, each time I have used one of these coupons the servers have struggled to know what to do.

Today I had a $65 dollar bill BEFORE using the coupon. I gave the server the coupon and told him I needed to know the difference. He returned with the bill and now I owed $99. I said how can it be MORE after using the coupon? The manager then came and said the charges were correct. I told him that this made no sense and that I shouldn't owe more AFTER using the comp/coupon than before. He looked at me and laughed and said again that the charges were correct. He was rude and obnoxious and disrespectful.

I took the coupons back, paid the bill INCLUDING a 20% tip for the server and walked out. I will pursue resolution with my host at a later time.

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[vpFREE] Re: Smoking Bans - WAS Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas BLOG - 13 JAN 2...

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, krallison416@... wrote:
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/21/2008 10:38:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> deuceswild1000@... writes:
>
> Read someplace that one in four of U.S. population smokes
>
>
> Most recently this week I read it is 22 percent, more like one in
five.

How many times can you split that hair?

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[vpFREE] Re: social security card

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean-Baptiste Queru" <jbqueru@...>
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> My wife's recently issued SS card came with a letter stating that she
> shouldn't carry her card with her. I don't remember any such language
> when mine was issued about 10 years ago (admittedly that was 10 years
> ago, so my memory shouldn't be trusted too much).
>
> JBQ

Yes, do not carry your SS card, but if you are 65 or older then you
need t carry your Medicare card which has your SS number as your
account number.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Smoking Bans - WAS Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas BLOG - 13 JAN 2...



In a message dated 1/21/2008 10:38:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
deuceswild1000@yahoo.com writes:

Read someplace that one in four of U.S. population smokes

Most recently this week I read it is 22 percent, more like one in five.

Karen

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would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot."
- Mark Twain

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[vpFREE] Re: Smoking Bans - WAS Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas BLOG - 13 JAN 2008

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "sjs5572z" <sjs5572z@...> wrote:
>
> Marvele,
>
> Well, if I'm not allowed to make a generalized observation because
> you don't smoke and drink at the same time, then you should not do
> the same. I am not obese, in fact I'm 6ft, 170 lBS. I eat mostly
> salads in the casino and I rarely eat desserts. As such, I guess I
> have a right to worry about second hand smoker....yeah?
>
> Just because you're a smoker who plays well and doesn't drink is
not
> the point. Although I may have been wrong that 90% of all good VP
> players are non-smokers, we are definitely smoking less than the
> casino population at large.
>
> BTW, approximatelt 22% of the US population smokes (as per the
> American Heart Assoc, since you'd like me to back uo my statements.
> Most gamblers in general smoke. As such, you have to assume that
> they are either self destructive or have addictive personalities,
or
> that the tooth fairy makes them smoke.

Read someplace that one in four of U.S. population smokes (It varies
by race, ethnics, and regiions) and that one in two casion patrons
are smokers. I cannot reference that statistic, but it seemed
reasonable at the time.

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RE: [vpFREE] What's the story with taxation of food comps??

<<I've heard that food comps in Nevada should not be taxed, but sometimes we

do get taxed. At the Coast casinos, if you have a comp, the restaurants
don't
tax you. But at Venetian they insisted you had to pay the tax.

Is the discrepancy due to casino-owned restaurants versus private, or based

on something else entirely? Is there a difference if you have a comp for a

"meal" versus a amount-type comp (like $100)?>>

If money changes hands, sales tax is charged. None of the Venetian
restaurants are owned by the hotel, so comp meals incur sales tax. At other
hotels, some restaurants may be owned by the hotel. If you get a comp there,
no money changes hands and there is no sales tax.

Cogno

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[vpFREE] Re: Smoking Bans

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, b.glazer@ wrote:
> >
> > Interestingly, it sounds like you don't LIKE to drink and play at
> the same time -- for me, it's a playing decision -- I know that
> alcohol impairs people, and have no reason to assume I'm a special
> exception, and I don't want to make mistakes while playing,
> especially when I might not even realize I'm making them - so I
don't
> drink alcohol while playing - anything - unless the game is a no-
> brainer. When I was younger, a friend and I used to go into the
> bacarrat pit, when the limits were much lower, and make off-setting
> bets of the minimum amount, me on the bank and him on the player --
> thus assuring we'd pay about 0.5% (or whatever the commission was
on
> wins) of our action --- and then we'd drink as much as we could get
> them to bring us. Drinks cost us tips and the 0.5%, and half the
fun
> was that this was not very well received in the stuffy baccarat pit.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> I'm in action so much that I don't consider it playing. I consider
> it to be working. If I'm drinking while working then I'm drinking
on
> the job. Most people don't drink on the job. I guess I'm from
that
> mold.
>
> As far as hustling drinks goes, it's any easy thing to do in
> casinos. Take downtown LV. Just go to a bar in one of the
casinos,
> get the bartender's attention, pull out a roll of bills, peel off a
> benjamin and stick it in the machine--in full view of the bartender-
-
> while orderiing your drink. Then set the machine on the lowest
denom
> and bet one coin at a time.
>
> Vegas bartenders are trained to size you up. If you put your money
> in the machine before the bartender gets to you, you will notice
that
> when he/she does come over they will be looking down at the machine
> while taking your order to see if you are playing, what denom you
are
> playing, and how many credits you have. This is to determine if
you
> are a sucker or a hustler.
>
> They get all kinds of hustlers trying to take them off so it's a
> precaution they use. This is why you should prefer the technique
of
> letting them see your bankroll and the big bill you put in the
> machine. You are now a sucker in their eyes and they don't think
> twice before fetching you the drink.
>
> After the bartender delivers the drink and gets busy elswhere hit
the
> cashout button and make your exit. When you finish your drink just
> stop off at the next bar and pull the same trick. You'll be
drunker
> than a pig in no time at a cost of a couple of bucks.
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > My 55 y.o. brother-in-law is the same way - a life of smoking,
> eating, drinking, and riding motorcycles as much as he wants,
without
> any consequences. Don't worry about how to get to the doctor,
> they'll take you the way they took him - in a helicopter and/or
> ambulance - when he finally had his heart attack last summer.
> >
> > --BG
> >
>
> My Great Uncle Alvin chain-smoked Prince Albert in a Can. Rolled
> them up himself. He was a very unceremonious drinker. He would
just
> open the jug and start chugging. He was a disgrace to my highly
> religious Grandmother, his little sister.
>
> One morning they found Uncle Alvin dead at his house. My
Grandfather
> went to investigate. When he got back he reported to my
Grandmother
> that there was a huge pile of whiskey bottles in the backyard.
>
> My Grandmother looked at me while shaking her head and said "The
poor
> man drank and smoked himself to death."
>
> He was only 89 years old. What a shame.

Well my Uncle died at age 53 from an unstoppable nose bleed while in
a drunken stupor. Why was it unstoppable? No liver left. He
drank 13 bottles of Drewrys a day minimum (baker's dozen at the local
party store) and basically remained sober. It was the week long
benders that would knock him silly, until he was nearly starving to
death from not eating. Then he would sober up and get something to
eat.

He smoked also, but that was the least of his problems. Always
figured he would burn himself up, but somehow he managed to put out
his cigarette before he would fall asleep.

Quite sad!
>

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[vpFREE] What's the story with taxation of food comps??

I've heard that food comps in Nevada should not be taxed, but sometimes we
do get taxed. At the Coast casinos, if you have a comp, the restaurants don't
tax you. But at Venetian they insisted you had to pay the tax.

Is the discrepancy due to casino-owned restaurants versus private, or based
on something else entirely? Is there a difference if you have a comp for a
"meal" versus a amount-type comp (like $100)?

And if we really shouldn't be taxed, is there a Nevada tax code we can quote
to get some relief?

Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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[vpFREE] Re: Imperial Palace

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, TedChee@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 7/11/2003 10:24:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> vpFREE@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
> > Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:52:36 -0000
> > From: "ted white" <fastandfurious@...>
> > Subject: Re: LVRJ - EDITORIAL: 'Advantage' gamblers
> >
> > I have a somewhat related story although not VP. This happened
a few
> > years ago at the Imperial Palace. I witnessed a guy win about
$7,000
> > in an hour playing blackjack. When he went to the cashier's
cage to
> > cash out, two security guys slammed him up against an empty
craps
> > table twisting his arm painfully behind his back.
> >
> > He screamed for someone to call the police (which I did). They
> > claimed that the chips he initially used were counterfeit. It
was
> > true that he pulled some black chips out of his pocket to play.
It
> > wasn't until I read this recent article that I wondered about
that
> > episode.
> >
> > Has anyone else witnessed something similar?
> >
>
> It sounds in character. This is the casino that had a room for
Nazi
> memorabilia and obersved Hilter's birthday for a couple of years.
>
> The owner, Ralph Engelstad, died last year. He may have been a
good man but
> the miscues above will always overshadow his record when IP &
strong-arm
> tactics are mentioned together.
>

You know, if this had happened any place other than Nevada, the
guards would have been charged with assault and battery (which they
certainly were guilty of, but in Nevada, casino security guards can
KILL people without fear of prosecution).

What was the outcome? Did they finally release the guy? Did he file
any sort of complaint with anyone--police, Gaming--? (Not that the
effort would have been anything but futile, but....)

As is, has been, and will always be true in Nevada casinos, the
crime that that person committed was WINNING. Thus, in the twisted
world of Nevada, the guards acted properly in assaulting, beating,
and detaining him. The IP and Englestad's Hitler cult, while perhaps
being one of the nuttiest places to have ever existed, weren't and
aren't at all unique in this regard. In fact, I doubt that there
exists a SINGLE casino in Nevada where winning players haven't been
physically attacked by the casino.

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[vpFREE] Re: Smoking Bans - WAS Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas BLOG - 13 JAN 2008

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mrdave2006" <dave.feuer@...> wrote:
> If I win, it won't exist because I feel everybody should be able to
> kill themselves as they see fit. However, if you blow smoke in
> somebody's face they can hit you with a bat, since you did just
> assault them with a deadly weapon.
>
> -Dave
>

Love it. Next time I get "smoked" I am going to tell the person that
if they do not stop, I am going to call the police and compain about
assault with a deadly weapon. Fantastic!

As an aside, I think there might be a correlation between smokers and
gamblers as both tend to be addictive behavior.

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[vpFREE] Re: $5 match plays at Bill's Gambling Hall

You know, people generally don't realize how valuable those things
are. Each one you get is like being handed a $2 bill plus 40 cents
change.

Back in the day, I used to do the "coupon run", and even 20 years ago,
with far less casinos, you could pick up $100 in an afternoon's work.
I would imagine that there are still people out there slowly
assembling a bankroll from matchplays, etc. When we were REALLY hard
up, a friend and I used to double up and then bet Pass/Don't Pass or
Red/Black simultaneously, thus "guaranteeing" something close to the
EV of the combined coupons (the 12 at craps on the comeout killed one
of our coupons on occasion, along with the bet, but that was only a
1/36 chance; the 0/00 at roulette was a much bigger risk, killing both
bets, and only being 1/19, so we only did the roulette thing when the
craps boss was making frowny faces at us).

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