RE: [vpFREE] Question about Super Triple Play JOB EV

 

I forgot about the 6th coin!

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> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 21:36:24 -0500
> Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Question about Super Triple Play JOB EV
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> Why would the variance be very high, your pay table in the higher hands is better than FP Jacks and your most frequent hands are equal to FP Jacks?
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[vpFREE] Re: Question about Super Triple Play JOB EV

 

Sorry, my mistake about the full house. I should have realized there was a version with 50, heck, there's a version like that right down the street from me. The rest of the figuring works. Anyway, I get 98.78%.


---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <bobbartop@...> wrote :

I put those numbers in WinPoker, crunch a result, divide by six and subtract that. There may be better ways to do this but it worked for me. By the way, your full house is probably 55, not 50. Double check that.


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Can someone tell me the expected return on the following Super Triple Play
JOB pay table with six coins bet?

Royal Flush 4000
Straight Flush 300
4 of a kind 500
Full House 50
Flush 30
Straight 20
3 of a kind 15
Two Pair 10
Jacks or Better 5

Thanks in advance.

Walter









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RE: [vpFREE] Question about Super Triple Play JOB EV

Why would the variance be very high, your pay table in the higher hands is better than FP Jacks and your most frequent hands are equal to FP Jacks?

To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:22:18 -0400
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Question about Super Triple Play JOB EV


























Not at Agua Caliente. I'm in Biloxi. I know the game is shorter on the

Full House (50 vs. the normal 55). But I don't have any way of calculating

the difference in EV. Of course, it will also have a very high variance.



Walter





In a message dated 9/28/2015 4:04:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

vpFREE@yahoogroups.com writes:



The 99.75% game pays 55 for the Full House. This paytable will be less

than that, although I don't know how much less.



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[vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



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> remaining after the devastation. According to the database listing the

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> > 4 of a kind 500

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[vpFREE] Re: Question about Super Triple Play JOB EV

 

I put those numbers in WinPoker, crunch a result, divide by six and subtract that. There may be better ways to do this but it worked for me. By the way, your full house is probably 55, not 50. Double check that.


---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <walterhnri@...> wrote :

Can someone tell me the expected return on the following Super Triple Play
JOB pay table with six coins bet?

Royal Flush 4000
Straight Flush 300
4 of a kind 500
Full House 50
Flush 30
Straight 20
3 of a kind 15
Two Pair 10
Jacks or Better 5

Thanks in advance.

Walter






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Re: [vpFREE] WynnCore Free Play

 

It all depends on your objectives.If you want to cash out for as much of the free play as you possibly can, then you want to reduce the volatility of the session so you'd play the least volatile game i.e. 9/6 Jacks or better, and you'd play smaller denominations like quarters at $1.25 per hand.
If you just want to give it a shot with the $200, then you would tend to go in the opposite direction. Regards
A.P.
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Subject: [vpFREE] WynnCore Free Play

  Have $200 of free play available. I assume VP is the way to go with free play. Any thoughts on how to play it? Are there specific machines that have more favorable pay tables? eg. $1 tables are better than .25c, $2 better than $1 etc. I know there 's no mathematically optimum amount, but any thoughts on approach as far as amount per spin. I'm considering $5 best paytable 8 spins (i.e. $25 per hand).


This is my first time with this much free play, so I apologize if these are silly questions.

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Re: [vpFREE] Question about Super Triple Play JOB EV

 

Whenever you lose 5 coins on a straight, flush or full
house, you can ball park the cost at being around 1%.Not
really accurate, but good enough to let you know if the game
is playable, when playing for a short period of time.

Regards

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I know the game is shorter on the Full House (50 vs. the
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Can someone tell me the expected return on the following Super Triple Play
JOB pay table with six coins bet?

Royal Flush 4000
Straight Flush 300
4 of a kind 500
Full House 50
Flush 30
Straight 20
3 of a kind 15
Two Pair 10
Jacks or Better 5

Thanks in advance.

Walter



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Re: [vpFREE] Question about Super Triple Play JOB EV

 

Not at Agua Caliente. I'm in Biloxi. I know the game is shorter on the
Full House (50 vs. the normal 55). But I don't have any way of calculating
the difference in EV. Of course, it will also have a very high variance.

Walter


In a message dated 9/28/2015 4:04:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
vpFREE@yahoogroups.com writes:

The 99.75% game pays 55 for the Full House. This paytable will be less
than that, although I don't know how much less.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Vegasvpplayer vegasvpplayer@gmail.com
[vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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> I assume you are at Agua Caliente and trying to find the best game
> remaining after the devastation. According to the database listing the
> return is 99.75%.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 1:19 PM, walterhnri@aol.com [vpFREE] <
> vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > Can someone tell me the expected return on the following Super Triple
> Play
> > JOB pay table with six coins bet?
> >
> > Royal Flush 4000
> > Straight Flush 300
> > 4 of a kind 500
> > Full House 50
> > Flush 30
> > Straight 20
> > 3 of a kind 15
> > Two Pair 10
> > Jacks or Better 5
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> > Thanks in advance.
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> > Walter
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Re: [vpFREE] Question about Super Triple Play JOB EV

 

The 99.75% game pays 55 for the Full House. This paytable will be less
than that, although I don't know how much less.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Vegasvpplayer vegasvpplayer@gmail.com
[vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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> I assume you are at Agua Caliente and trying to find the best game
> remaining after the devastation. According to the database listing the
> return is 99.75%.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 1:19 PM, walterhnri@aol.com [vpFREE] <
> vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> > Can someone tell me the expected return on the following Super Triple
> Play
> > JOB pay table with six coins bet?
> >
> > Royal Flush 4000
> > Straight Flush 300
> > 4 of a kind 500
> > Full House 50
> > Flush 30
> > Straight 20
> > 3 of a kind 15
> > Two Pair 10
> > Jacks or Better 5
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> > Thanks in advance.
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Re: [vpFREE] Question about Super Triple Play JOB EV

 

I assume you are at Agua Caliente and trying to find the best game remaining after the devastation. According to the database listing the return is 99.75%.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2015, at 1:19 PM, walterhnri@aol.com [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Can someone tell me the expected return on the following Super Triple Play
> JOB pay table with six coins bet?
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> Royal Flush 4000
> Straight Flush 300
> 4 of a kind 500
> Full House 50
> Flush 30
> Straight 20
> 3 of a kind 15
> Two Pair 10
> Jacks or Better 5
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> Thanks in advance.
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[vpFREE] Question about Super Triple Play JOB EV

 

Can someone tell me the expected return on the following Super Triple Play
JOB pay table with six coins bet?

Royal Flush 4000
Straight Flush 300
4 of a kind 500
Full House 50
Flush 30
Straight 20
3 of a kind 15
Two Pair 10
Jacks or Better 5

Thanks in advance.

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