[vpFREE] Re: GVR $1,$2,$5 NSU Deuces MultiStrike (100.02% with the 0.1% cashback)

tralfamidorgooglycrackers wrote:

> > "I'll have to guess then. The goal of the "rest of vpFREE" is to out
> > all loose plays?"

> You're getting warm. The error in your supposition is the word "out";
> if that were the goal, every post on VpFree would be immediately
> forwarded to all casino executives, slot hosts, etc.
>
> Keep trying.

You take "fishing" on these groups to the level of an art form, tral
... I have to admit, it's rather impressive at times.

- H.

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[vpFREE] Sam's Town Shame on you!!!

Inside the south parking garage are several examples of gang graffiti on the
walls and trash cans. Also inside the bathroom near the theaters are gang
spray painting. I only park in that structure so don't know about the other
garages. This post is to prove two things, Sam's don't care and they read this
list. I bet next week all of the graffiti will be gone.

Let's do our part to stop gang violence by pointing out to any hotel in
Vegas the ugly sight of graffiti.
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[vpFREE] Scot Krause's REEL DEALS - 26 FEB 2008

http://members.cox.net/vpfree/KR.htm

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http://members.cox.net/vpfree/KR.htm</a>

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constitute an endorsement or approval of the linked article's
content by vpFREE. Any discussion of the article must be done
in accordance with vpFREE's rules and policies.

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[vpFREE] Scot Krause's ON THE CHEAP - 26 FEB 2008

http://members.cox.net/vpfree/KC.htm

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Re: [vpFREE] Rules Revision - MEMBER PARTICIPATION



In a message dated 2/26/2008 8:11:54 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
bdancer@compdance.com writes:

As written, every member is expected to do
an inventory of all 6,000+ games in every casino they visit --

I imagined when I read it that a member should report a new condition of
inventory (addition or removal or change in pay table of a game).

Karen

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would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot."
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Their getting viscous in Reno

So, if I take a cab from one casino to an other right be the door and it is daylight, security if good?? I am such a chicken:)

nightoftheiguana2000 <nightoftheiguana2000@yahoo.com> wrote: --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tralfamidorgooglycrackers"
<tralfamidorgooglycrackers@...> wrote:
> Uhhhh...is that the guy who keeps sneaking up on people and beating
> them to death with boxes of Cheerios, Wheaties, etc.?

I know you were just be humorous, but the situation is actually quite
serious:
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=53281





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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Stations March Mailer - YUCKY!!



No Fiesta March mailers received yet here, but the
first week of March is on our online calendars. Amount
of freeplay appears normal.

---Got my Fiesta mailer today. Mine was (about) the same (didn't scrutinize
it) as last month but I haven't been playing there much at all lately.

Scot

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[vpFREE] FAQ Additions on Sharing Good VP Games - CORRECTED

This replaces Message #85594, which has been deleted
because of a cutting and pasting error.

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The following additions to the FAQ are a distillation of previous
posts by vpFREE administration on the sharing of good video
poker games.

http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ.htm#59

<a href="http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ.htm#59">
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ.htm#59</a>

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59. What is the vpFREE Sunshine Policy? -

The Sunshine Policy says that "ALL of the better video poker
games that are known to the vpFREE Administrator will be shared
with the vpFREE membership".

60. Should vpFREE members post reports about good games that
aren't in the DataBase? -

Every vpFREE member is expected to report all attractive games
that they find, unless they believe it is a casino mistake and
they wish to protect it for their own personal use.

60a. Why does vpFREE encourage members to post reports of
exceptionally good games (which may be removed because of the
publicity)? -

vpFREE believes that the free and open exchange of information is
vital and beneficial to the video poker community as a whole, and
is dedicated to sharing, promoting and preserving good video
poker situations that can survive and prosper in an open market
environment. If publicity kills a good play that had been a
secret, it's no great loss to the video poker community as a
whole, since they weren't even aware of the play previously.

Secrecy may be the best solution for prolonging an attractive
play, but you usually can't know for sure that disclosure
wouldn't have been better. Some protected plays have died because
of inactivity and others might have lasted longer if they had
been publicized and thereby attracted a better mix of abusive
players (who will usually find attractive plays via their own
grapevines) and non-abusive players.

60b. Should vpFREE members keep casino mistakes to themselves if
they're personally taking advantage of the mistake? -

Yes, but it's sometimes difficult to know if a mistake really is a
mistake.

60c. Shouldn't vpFREE members help to prolong attractive
non-public plays by keeping them a secret? -

Not unless they are personally participating in the play.

It is in every player's best interest that other players lose
money playing video poker, thereby increasing casino profits and
allowing them to offer attractive video poker games. Since the
only beneficiary of a protected play is the very small group of
active participants (who are winning, which is contrary to all
non-participants best interests), vpFREE non-participants should
share the play with all members. Then, if it's a viable game it
will be available for everyone, and if not, the sooner it dies
the better (for everyone except the active participants).

Camaraderie, political correctness, and hopes of reciprocity in
protecting one's own private plays are reasons that
non-participants might not want to report a non-public play.

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[vpFREE] Re: GVR $1,$2,$5 NSU Deuces MultiStrike (100.02% with the 0.1% cashback)

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vidi0t" <vid.geo@...> wrote:
>
> > Bob Dancer wrote:
> > ... Now it's been posted on vpFREE, that's the further kiss of
death.
>
> To Bob and others who did not report these machines to the group:
> According to the vpFREE group rules "Every vpFREE member, as a
> requirement for continuing membership, is expected to ... report
> DataBase inventory changes in casinos they visit." Perhaps it makes
> sense to withhold information about games that are an obvious casino
> mistake so as not to alert the casino, but these NSUD MultiStrikes at
> GVR don't seem to be mistakes that the casino is not aware of. What
is
> the motivation for keeping them secret from fellow group members?
>
You have to read between Bob's lines here. According to Bob himself,
advantage players have been slamming this play ever since it appeared,
to the extent that His Bobness has been unable to get on the machines
as much as he would like. So now he "outs" the play on VpFree, and when
it gets yanked, he can say that it was BECAUSE it was posted on VpFree--
not because it's been getting slammed by greedy AP's.

Bob's agenda isn't the same as that of any of the others on VpFree, and
he doesn't operate under the same constraints: he apparently has a
massive bankroll, and for whatever reason (we may speculate), he is
immune from casino countermeasures. He only "shares" information that
is useless to anyone but him, or that has obsolesced. Certainly, he
feels that by these methods, he is protecting his livelihood. It's just
important to realize that because of that, his goals are often
diametrically opposite to those of the rest of VpFree.

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[vpFREE] Re: Stations March Mailer - YUCKY!!

> Michael Jerlecki - Director of Marketing at Red Rock
> phone - 702-797-7703
> cell - 702-467-4180
> email - michael.jerlecki@...
>
>
> ---Someone new recently? I thought it was Anne Connolly?
>
> Scot
>
Yes, he's new.

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[vpFREE] Re: GVR $1,$2,$5 NSU Deuces MultiStrike (100.02% with the 0.1% cashback)

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vidi0t" <vid.geo@...> wrote:
>
> > Bob Dancer wrote:
> > ... Now it's been posted on vpFREE, that's the further kiss of death.
>
> To Bob and others who did not report these machines to the group:
> According to the vpFREE group rules "Every vpFREE member, as a
> requirement for continuing membership, is expected to ... report
> DataBase inventory changes in casinos they visit." Perhaps it makes
> sense to withhold information about games that are an obvious casino
> mistake so as not to alert the casino, but these NSUD MultiStrikes at
> GVR don't seem to be mistakes that the casino is not aware of. What is
> the motivation for keeping them secret from fellow group members?
>

Back in the day when only a few people had internet access, a listing
on vpFREE was relatively harmless, maybe. But today everyone has
internet access, including even casino management. In fact, vpFREE is
probably a leading reason why good plays are so hard to find these
days. Maybe the vpFREE policy should be changed to reflect modern
times. Maybe new users should be warned that any play they announce
here is effectively announced to the entire world and if it has any
value to the player it will soon be withdrawn by the casino. Thus,
announcing loose plays here is not in the player's interest.

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[vpFREE] Re: Their getting viscous in Reno

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tralfamidorgooglycrackers"
<tralfamidorgooglycrackers@...> wrote:
> Uhhhh...is that the guy who keeps sneaking up on people and beating
> them to death with boxes of Cheerios, Wheaties, etc.?

I know you were just be humorous, but the situation is actually quite
serious:
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=53281

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[vpFREE] Re: GVR $1,$2,$5 NSU Deuces MultiStrike (100.02% with the 0.1% cashback)

> Bob Dancer wrote:
> ... Now it's been posted on vpFREE, that's the further kiss of death.

To Bob and others who did not report these machines to the group:
According to the vpFREE group rules "Every vpFREE member, as a
requirement for continuing membership, is expected to ... report
DataBase inventory changes in casinos they visit." Perhaps it makes
sense to withhold information about games that are an obvious casino
mistake so as not to alert the casino, but these NSUD MultiStrikes at
GVR don't seem to be mistakes that the casino is not aware of. What is
the motivation for keeping them secret from fellow group members?

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Re: [vpFREE] Stretching That Diminishing Bankroll



In a message dated 2/26/2008 1:17:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
BANDSTAND54@AOL.COM writes:

The point is I am trying to slow down this losing process and hang on to my
remaining bankroll till my luck changes. I want to play the same machines at
the same level. I just might have to leave the casino a little earlier at
the moment.

Feedback is gratefully welcome.

I think you're doing the right thing for yourself. Particularly if your
luck is running bad, you may not be playing up to par and certainly your state
of mind isn't good. I also pull in my horns when I'm running really bad. It
was suggested to me that the multiplay are less volatile and so I play them
but with a willingness to lose less at those times.

Karen

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