[vpFREE] Re: OT: Inflated claims and fragile egos

 

I'm impressed with your verbiage vp_wiz. Really great use of the English language. I'm not trying to be funny either. You did a really good job of posting your beliefs.
BTW when I play between 4 and 5000 hands an hour, it is usually about 800.
Bob used a similar senario on his gambling with an edge podcast. Therefore I was sure he would know.

Brad

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vp_wiz" <harry.porter@...> wrote:
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> I'm puzzled, and more than a little amused, by any suggestion that someone might inflate their reported play speed (or, generally speaking, otherwise embellish some fact about their play experience).
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> Somehow, it seems to have escaped the notice of some that most casinos these days employ tier credit systems and display a count from which coin-in, and consequently play speed, can be directly confirmed.
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> There's little question that inaccurate claims of one kind or another frequently pop up on this group. But those typically involve assertions that are speculative which can't readily be affirmed.
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> I've long been satisfied that the egos of most competent players are sufficiently healthy that they find little benefit in exaggerated claims. And it's apparent to me that my own experience is hardly sound ground from which to question the claims of those whose play experience far outstrips my own.
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> Everyone is, of course, entitled to air their views and impressions here (within civil bounds). Just bear in mind that when someone is inclined to challenge (even tangentially) someone else's claim, they lay bare the potential fragility of their own ego.
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[vpFREE] Phat Pack review (Plaza Hotel Vegas)

 


We saw the extremely enjoyable Phat Pack show at the Plaza today. It is held at 5 p.m. wednesday-Sunday. Three excellent male singers who previously appeared in Phantom of the Opera in Vegas, and in many other Broadway shows, sing a number of Broadway and other songs, accompanied on piano by the excellent pianist who currently plays piano for Jersey Boys. I love Broadway shows, and I really enjoyed this one. The performers also make the show more intimate than usual by telling a bit about their careers and how they got into show business, which I found interesting. Look for discount tickets at the 1/2 price ticket booth, or other sources. I was expecting some rat pack influenced songs, from the show's title, but it is totally different, and has nothing to do with Frank, Dean, and Sammy. But if you like good singing and Broadway music you'll enjoy this one.

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[vpFREE] Re: I Need Help with my VP Playing Style

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:
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> Of course you want to play fast when your machine is hot, otherwise it is possible that it will go cold.

What? Hot and cold machines? You must be jesting!

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[vpFREE] Re: XVP.. Bellagio Million Dollar Slot Progressive

 

Wow, resets at $75K. $15/pull @$75K jackpot sounds kind of lame.
Guess you have to be patient.

There's a picture of Elliot Shapiro hitting a progressive slot at NYNY back in the day. Shapiro would work for the comps. Loved his comps.
VPFREE Picture link:
http://tinyurl.com/k67s23e
same as:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vpFREE/photos/album/1242492791/pic/1836050094/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=101&count=20&dir=asc

After seeing the picture, used to keep eye on NYNY carousel.
Always checked the progressive albeit didn't have a clue how to figure when it was a "positive expectation" Still don't.

Playing with own money was 25 cents FPDW for Elliot. "penny a hand"

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gamb00ler" <gamb00ler@...> wrote:
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> They are 3-coin 5$ machines.
> $15 per pull.
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> Simultaneously there were some AP's playing the
> Top Dollar 2-coin 5$ progressive that is linked
> across MGM properties. I last saw it Sun. night
> and the JP was $345K.
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> G'luck all,
> Gamb00ler
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> Dave wrote:
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> > It went up about $50K/day with 10 machines in constant action
> > $3/pull? x ~3000 pulls/hour x 24 hours = $200K/day action/machine/day x 10% hold = $2K hold/machine/day x 10 machines = $20K day/hold.
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[vpFREE] LVRJ: Free WiFi service coming to downtown Las Vegas

 
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[vpFREE] Re: XVP.. Bellagio Million Dollar Slot Progressive

 

That was a fascinating report on the progressive, however, 6 nights at Bellagio seems worthy of a trip report in it's own right!

I stayed there a mere single night last month, reintroducing myself to the property after a 10 year absence. (It once was our favorite LV property, but after they pulled $1 jb, play simply became a little too pricey for our bankroll!)

I found I'm still in love with the property, but came away with one curious observation:

I opted for dinner at Prime Steakhouse, which served up an excellent dinner, but one that paled compared to the price tag. We're talking $84 for a bone-in filet, $12 for the potato, $12 for sauteed mushrooms, and $16 for the salad.

Those prices put the restaurant on par with one of the finest steakhouses in Philly (Barlcay Prime), and frankly Bellagio's "Prime" doesn't hold a candle to it.

- H.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "lfcmja@..." <lfcmja@...> wrote:
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> Just returned from six nights at the B.

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[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 24 JUL 2013

 

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 24 JUL 2013

"Host Conference Follow-Up"

http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=3004

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Taxes and teams question XVP

 

Mickey wrote:

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>> >--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory Bart Jr." <broncosaurus@> wrote: I was wondering how these progressive teams handle taxes on jackpots over $1199. It seems like there'd be some difficulty in paying some guy $100 or whatever, and having them hit a $25K jackpot (with the resulting paperwork in their name).
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>There is an IRS form for splitting jackpots. I don't remember the number of the form as I've never been involved in those kinds of splits.

It's 5754. The IRS doesn't seem to care how it's used, though. The
instructions tell the person who hit the jackpot to go back to the
casino and have the w-2g reissued in the names of the people whose
income the jackpot was, but teams rarely use it that way and casinos
can be uncooperative if they try. Usually, the people whose income
the jackpot was fill it out and give it to the person who hit the
jackpot, who then shows it to the IRS when they ask why s/he didn't
report the jackpot as income. I know of no instance when this hasn't
satisfied the IRS.

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[vpFREE] Re: Taxes and teams question XVP

 


> >
> >--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory Bart Jr." <broncosaurus@> wrote: I was wondering how these progressive teams handle taxes on jackpots over $1199. It seems like there'd be some difficulty in paying some guy $100 or whatever, and having them hit a $25K jackpot (with the resulting paperwork in their name).
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There is an IRS form for splitting jackpots. I don't remember the number of the form as I've never been involved in those kinds of splits.

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[vpFREE] Re: XVP.. Bellagio Million Dollar Slot Progressive

 



They are 3-coin 5$ machines.
$15 per pull.

Simultaneously there were some AP's playing the
Top Dollar 2-coin 5$ progressive that is linked
across MGM properties. I last saw it Sun. night
and the JP was $345K.

G'luck all,
Gamb00ler

Dave wrote:
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> It went up about $50K/day with 10 machines in constant action
> $3/pull? x ~3000 pulls/hour x 24 hours = $200K/day action/machine/day x 10% hold = $2K hold/machine/day x 10 machines = $20K day/hold.

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[vpFREE] Re: XVP.. Bellagio Million Dollar Slot Progressive

 

It went up about $50K/day with 10 machines in constant action
$3/pull? x ~3000 pulls/hour x 24 hours = $200K/day action/machine/day x 10% hold = $2K hold/machine/day x 10 machines = $20K day/hold.

No wonder casino suits didn't mind.
Resets at $75K so maybe not $3/pull?
Just another day at Bellagio?
They didn't let you play?
Would you have taken 10% of net win or $10/hour?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "lfcmja@..." <lfcmja@...> wrote:
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> Just returned from six nights at the B.
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> Anyway, I came across a bank of 5x5 slots that were attached to an in house progressive that at the time was just over a million dollars. This progressive resets to $75,000
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> Two different teams had each taken over half of the machines. Each was bankrolled by one individual who was paying people ( locals) to play these machines 24/7.
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> I talked to one of the leaders, a nice Australian fellow who lives 2 months a year in LV. I asked him if he felt that this investment was a positive expectation.
> He gave me a weird look and merely said that he felt that it was a good deal. He informed me that a team from England had unsuccessfully tried to bring the JP down and had left when it was at $945K and that's when he jumped in.
> He and an assistant who relieved him for some sleep time, kept records of smaller hand pays etc. Of course all the machines had players cards in them. One side "Gary" the other side "Rafael"
>
> Night after night, day after day the two "bosses" watched their individual players .
> Food via room service was wheeled to these machines and the chairs had been removed so the players could easily move up and down the row.
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> Needless to say, at times this action drew some nice crowds.
> Bellagio mgmt. didn't seem to mind at all.
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> Early Tuesday morning the Australian's team ( Gary ) hit it !! JP was over $1.3 mil.
>
> Larry Feldman
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[vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 23 JUL 2013

 

As did I...the whole site seems "suspect"...thanks for getting this sorted out.

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> I got that also today when going to the LVA news page. I sent CS an email telling them of it.
> Dave
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> > > Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 23 JUL 2013
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Taxes and teams question XVP

 

I don't think she ever used or threaten to use pruning shears. I'd
say more about who did and who else threatened to, but I wouldn't want
to spoil the movie.

you wrote:

>This is highly graphic, rated XXX, and not for the faint of heart, but in this film noir, poker player Jennifer Tilly demonstrates the pruning shear technique for collecting:
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9u_f9dJHzc
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>--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory Bart Jr." <broncosaurus@...> wrote:
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>> I was wondering how these progressive teams handle taxes on jackpots over
>> $1199.
>>
>> It seems like there'd be some difficulty in paying some guy $100 or
>> whatever, and having them
>> hit a $25K jackpot (with the resulting paperwork in their name).
>>
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