[vpFREE] Re: Will M Progressives Catch On?

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" <staywarm@...> wrote:
>
> Just wondering if it turns out the large progressives at the M are a success, will the idea catch on with other casinos?
> I would expect to see the same format spread around Vegas but maybe not. Time will tell
>

I can only hope this is a big success. I'm also thinking that a manufacturer, like IGT, should get behind it more. Try promoting something like the FrankNBob machines instead of all the latest fad slot machine rip-offs.

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[vpFREE] Re: New Game Suggestion for FrankNBobs

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Richard McKenna" <MCKENNA3927@...> wrote:
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> How about Double Joker K or Better.?? . A difficult game that only a few
> people have mastered;( good for the casinos....... A fun game to play; (good
> for ploppies) At one time this game was quite popular at Foxwoods in Ct.
> where almost nobody played it correctly.
>

That does sound like an excellent choice. I have never played it but it certainly fits the "different" description.

Interestingly, I looked at some pay tables on vpfree and I see there are two basic scenarios. There is 1-1-4-6-7-10, and then there is 1-2-3-4-5-8. The first is at 96.83%, and the second is at 98.10%. And unlike the other FrankNBob games, this one would not be positive at $2700 for quarters.

I don't know how difficult this game would be, but perhaps the second scenario (98.10) would work if it is difficult enough.

Anyway, I agree that is a good choice, Richard. But I'm still leaning towards All American. The more I think of it, All American seems like a slam-dunk.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: M Progressives

 

>"It takes $100,000 of play in 3 consecutive months to get a Platinum card."

I wonder is this might have been worded ambiguously. It doesn't take
$100,000 of play in each of any 3 consecutive months, for a total of
at least $300,000, but a total of $100,000 of play in any 3
consecutive months.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: New Game Suggestion for FrankNBobs

 

How about Double Joker K or Better.?? . A difficult game that only a few
people have mastered;( good for the casinos....... A fun game to play; (good
for ploppies) At one time this game was quite popular at Foxwoods in Ct.
where almost nobody played it correctly.
RMcK.




-------Original Message-------

From: Bob Bartop
Date: 07/09/11 20:58:26
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: New Game Suggestion for FrankNBobs

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
>
> I'm open to suggestions. Really...really open.
>
> If you are against putting in less known games, what would you suggest we
do instead, to make the bank more sustainable for the casino and more fun
for the player.
>
> This started out as a vpFREE request and idea. I see no problem in
including everyone's advice in its continued success and existence.
>
> Think about it really hard and then cry havoc and let slip the dogs of
good M progressive suggestions.
>
> You'll need to check your player hat at the door for this brain storming
session to be fruitful. Remember it has to be good for player AND the casino

>
> Put yourself in my shoes and imagine yourself walking into the VP's office
and pitching the idea. Try not to get me shot. I still haven't ridden on a
pink elephant.
>


This is a challenging dilemma. The more I think about it the more I realize
how few "different" types of video poker there really are.

Essentially the White Hot Aces and TB-Plus and Super Aces games are just
different twists on Double Double Bonus.

I was first thinking about the Joker games they have back East where the
5-of-a-kind is the biggest payoff instead of a royal. I have never played
that.

I think either you or Bob mentioned on the Show last week the game of
One-Eyed-Jacks. I have never played that either but I understand that is
extremely difficult.

Perhaps a Deuces-Joker type game. Or how about a Bonus Deuces Wild? Or a
Double Deuces Wild?

I still think the All American would fit. It's "different" enough, and the
7-7-7 pay table is in the low 96% range.





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[vpFREE] Re: New Game Suggestion for FrankNBobs

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
>
> I'm open to suggestions. Really...really open.
>
> If you are against putting in less known games, what would you suggest we do instead, to make the bank more sustainable for the casino and more fun for the player.
>
> This started out as a vpFREE request and idea. I see no problem in including everyone's advice in its continued success and existence.
>
> Think about it really hard and then cry havoc and let slip the dogs of good M progressive suggestions.
>
> You'll need to check your player hat at the door for this brain storming session to be fruitful. Remember it has to be good for player AND the casino.
>
> Put yourself in my shoes and imagine yourself walking into the VP's office and pitching the idea. Try not to get me shot. I still haven't ridden on a pink elephant.
>

This is a challenging dilemma. The more I think about it the more I realize how few "different" types of video poker there really are.

Essentially the White Hot Aces and TB-Plus and Super Aces games are just different twists on Double Double Bonus.

I was first thinking about the Joker games they have back East where the 5-of-a-kind is the biggest payoff instead of a royal. I have never played that.

I think either you or Bob mentioned on the Show last week the game of One-Eyed-Jacks. I have never played that either but I understand that is extremely difficult.

Perhaps a Deuces-Joker type game. Or how about a Bonus Deuces Wild? Or a Double Deuces Wild?

I still think the All American would fit. It's "different" enough, and the 7-7-7 pay table is in the low 96% range.

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[vpFREE] Re: El Dorado 7/10 DB

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "WayneM" <squawk_1200@...> wrote:
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> Is there any $1 7/10 DB left. Last time I was there the best I could find was 9/6 jacks progressive. Not to bad as I hat a $6000 plus JP at the bar.

If you're asking about the $1 10/7 DB at the Eldorado in Reno, they are long gone.

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[vpFREE] Re: Video Poker Classes at Sam's Town

 

I would to say that Nudge has demonstrated a great ability point out the failures of others in such a tactful way. I am sure that his or her mistake free life is wonderful. I wish I were you.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nudge51" <nudge51@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: jeri
> Subject: [vpFREE] Video Poker Classes at Sam's Town
>
>
> Nudge
>
By the way, if you still can't derive the
location of the bank in question after reading the pertinent post above, and
you are as directionally impaired as I suspect, try this: Enter Sam's at
the keno lounge/poker room doors. Take ten steps inside the building. The
keno lounge will be directly on your left. Turn your body to your right and
you will see the bank on the wall across the way with machines in a circular
type pattern between you and the bank.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: M Progressives

 

Jean,
we love you (ever since we met you "A Long Time ago .... at the Orleans and you said to us: "I am the Queen of comps")

Lucy and Helmut
----- Original Message -----
From: Jean Scott
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: M Progressives

<<Paying for food could devastate my reputation. What would Jean say???>>

Well, Brad said to me today - I'm running out of the little hotel shampoos -
why don't you buy me a big bottle of some cheap stuff? I looked at him like
he had lost his mind - we don't use the B-word when we are talking about
shampoo and conditioner and body wash - or food!!!

I sent out an emergency call to a friend who stays in hotels more than we do
these days!!!!

________________
Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler
http://queenofcomps.com/
You can read my blog at
http://jscott.lvablog.com/

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[vpFREE] Will M Progressives Catch On?

 

Just wondering if it turns out the large progressives at the M are a success, will the idea catch on with other casinos?
I would expect to see the same format spread around Vegas but maybe not. Time will tell

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[vpFREE] Re: New Game Suggestion for FrankNBobs

 

If you want to make it win for the casino and win for the player, someone will have to lose. The struggle is to bring in recreational players to take the losses like live poker or sports betting. Marketing might be the ticket to getting players in those seats to bring the progressives up. Multiple progressives (RF, SF 4-kind) would bring down the volatility but then might not be as attractive as a big jackpot.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
>
> I'm open to suggestions. Really...really open.
>
> If you are against putting in less known games, what would you suggest we do instead, to make the bank more sustainable for the casino and more fun for the player.
>
> This started out as a vpFREE request and idea. I see no problem in including everyone's advice in its continued success and existence.
>
> Think about it really hard and then cry havoc and let slip the dogs of good M progressive suggestions.
>
> You'll need to check your player hat at the door for this brain storming session to be fruitful. Remember it has to be good for player AND the casino.
>
> Put yourself in my shoes and imagine yourself walking into the VP's office and pitching the idea. Try not to get me shot. I still haven't ridden on a pink elephant.
>
> ~FK
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Sai Sai" <gofastnismo@> wrote:
> >
> > Something more profitable than 7/5 JOB? Why not offer 5/5 TDB. Makes me think the M is making to much on the other games. How about working on those other games Frank? You know, the non progressives. Not many regular players know the game of All American so I think it would flop. A common game needs to go in for the non savvy player to recognize. I cant remember what games there were but a BPD or a WHA is liked by many players.
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I was thinking about what Frank said on the radio show the other night about M Resort wanting to switch out the 7-5 Jacks-or-better for something else, something a bit more challenging (and more profitable for the casino). I was wondering what would be a good, and different, choice.
> > >
> > > What about All American? What about a pay table like the following?
> > >
> > >
> > > 1-1-3-7-7-7-40-200-800
> > >
> > >
> > > Would that work?
> > >
> >
>

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[vpFREE] Re: New Game Suggestion for FrankNBobs

 

I'm open to suggestions. Really...really open.

If you are against putting in less known games, what would you suggest we do instead, to make the bank more sustainable for the casino and more fun for the player.

This started out as a vpFREE request and idea. I see no problem in including everyone's advice in its continued success and existence.

Think about it really hard and then cry havoc and let slip the dogs of good M progressive suggestions.

You'll need to check your player hat at the door for this brain storming session to be fruitful. Remember it has to be good for player AND the casino.

Put yourself in my shoes and imagine yourself walking into the VP's office and pitching the idea. Try not to get me shot. I still haven't ridden on a pink elephant.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Sai Sai" <gofastnismo@...> wrote:
>
> Something more profitable than 7/5 JOB? Why not offer 5/5 TDB. Makes me think the M is making to much on the other games. How about working on those other games Frank? You know, the non progressives. Not many regular players know the game of All American so I think it would flop. A common game needs to go in for the non savvy player to recognize. I cant remember what games there were but a BPD or a WHA is liked by many players.
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@> wrote:
> >
> > I was thinking about what Frank said on the radio show the other night about M Resort wanting to switch out the 7-5 Jacks-or-better for something else, something a bit more challenging (and more profitable for the casino). I was wondering what would be a good, and different, choice.
> >
> > What about All American? What about a pay table like the following?
> >
> >
> > 1-1-3-7-7-7-40-200-800
> >
> >
> > Would that work?
> >
>

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[vpFREE] Re: New Game Suggestion for FrankNBobs

 



All American is right at the top of our short list. Of course not everyone will be familiar with it, but that's exactly the point isn't it? To pick games people are less familiar with.

I can see this from both a players POV and the casinos. From both sides of the argument the most important thing is sustainability.

If the games are familiar and easy the meter-rise is simply to high. 96.3% + 4% MR + .3% CB + "perfect play" is a loss for the casino.

As a player I'd like to keep it easy and familiar, just like all of you would want. Also as a player, I'd like this bank not only to last but to multiply into other venues. Keeping the games easy simply isn't an option if play preservation and proliferation is to be our paramount concern.

Just tell yourself it'll be "fun" to learn new games.

~FK

P.S. Did I spell "fun" correctly? Seems like the last time I used the word it had a silent "q".

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
>
> I was thinking about what Frank said on the radio show the other night about M Resort wanting to switch out the 7-5 Jacks-or-better for something else, something a bit more challenging (and more profitable for the casino). I was wondering what would be a good, and different, choice.
>
> What about All American? What about a pay table like the following?
>
>
> 1-1-3-7-7-7-40-200-800
>
>
> Would that work?
>

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[vpFREE] Re: New Game Suggestion for FrankNBobs

 

Something more profitable than 7/5 JOB? Why not offer 5/5 TDB. Makes me think the M is making to much on the other games. How about working on those other games Frank? You know, the non progressives. Not many regular players know the game of All American so I think it would flop. A common game needs to go in for the non savvy player to recognize. I cant remember what games there were but a BPD or a WHA is liked by many players.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
>
> I was thinking about what Frank said on the radio show the other night about M Resort wanting to switch out the 7-5 Jacks-or-better for something else, something a bit more challenging (and more profitable for the casino). I was wondering what would be a good, and different, choice.
>
> What about All American? What about a pay table like the following?
>
>
> 1-1-3-7-7-7-40-200-800
>
>
> Would that work?
>

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[vpFREE] New Game Suggestion for FrankNBobs

 

I was thinking about what Frank said on the radio show the other night about M Resort wanting to switch out the 7-5 Jacks-or-better for something else, something a bit more challenging (and more profitable for the casino). I was wondering what would be a good, and different, choice.

What about All American? What about a pay table like the following?

1-1-3-7-7-7-40-200-800

Would that work?

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[vpFREE] Reminder: JUL 2011 vpFREE Lunch @ Gold Coast

 

Reminder: JUL 2011 vpFREE Lunch @ Gold Coast

The JUL vpFREE lunch is scheduled for Saturday 16 JUL at the
Gold Coast Buffet at 11:30 AM. Meet at the buffet entrance.
This is an informal, non-hosted, Dutch treat lunch, and
there's the possibility that no one will show up. Anyone
planning to attend should post an RSVP on vpFREE for
coordination purposes.

Anyone who agrees to host/attend a monthly lunch can select
a different location for that month's lunch, if they notify
me before the first of the month.

In addition, a vpFREE lunch (or dinner) will be scheduled
whenever any member volunteers to be a host and posts the
time and location details on vpFREE. Interested attendees
should RSVP on vpFREE.

Notes: Gold Coast may require a mandatory tip in advance for
larger groups who want to sit together. Buffets are usually
more expensive and lines are usually longer on weekends and
holidays. Send any pictures to me and I'll post a link to
them.

vpFREE Administrator

Probables / Possibles for 16 JUL:

None, so far.

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