[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas BLOG - 20 JAN 2008

Helping to Open the Palazzo

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[vpFREE] Re: Good Family Restaurant at MGM Properties

Curt Hitchcock wrote:
> > I'm looking to take my family to a restaurant and use some of my
> > MGM comps. Any suggestions besides buffets?

ckonwin replied:
Gonzalez y Gonzalez at NYNY

connielas526 replied:
> My son loves the Rain Forest Cafe at the MGM and the EPSN Zone at New
> York New York.

These are both top notch suggestions -- "GyG" and "RF Cafe" both came
to mind. (We never tested the ESPN fare.) These are moderately
priced and will likely see your comps the furthest next to buffet
offerings.

The Mex fare at Gonzalez y Gonzalez is very satisfying and was a must
for us w/ each NYNY stay when we were frequent there a couple of years
ago.

Rain Forest is a novel offering and has offerings that should appeal
to all (likely among the best pick for the under-12 set). However,
I'll note that the franchise in Orlando puts this one to shame.
(Well, to be honest, a one time dinner 3 years ago is our only
experience with the MGM RF.)

I'll offer up two more choices to consider -- both at Bellagio.

The coffee shop there is a little pricier than most, but still
reasonable. It's among the nicest on the Strip (we like it better
than Caesar's). While dinner might run higher than you'd care for,
for a coffee shop meal (maybe not), check it out for breakfast or
lunch. It's location adjacent to the Bellagio Conservatory really
makes to a nice "field trip" in general.

You ask for suggestions outside of a buffet -- well, I wouldn't
overlook the buffet at Bellagio entirely. Again, it's exceptional
(though, of course, on the pricier side). You certainly couldn't ask
for a finer Sunday brunch.

If you opt for the Bellagio buffet, be mindful that lines can be long.
I suggest trying to sweet talk a rep at the card desk into a line
pass. (Pour on the charm ... maybe with the suggestion that it's a
special occasion for some member of your party ;)

It once was the case that an hour's play on a new card would garner
you one with a comp for 2 ... I think those days are past, but maybe a
line pass is still within their discretion. I have to tell you that
there's a certain self-satisfied thrill in sailing past what otherwise
is likely up to an hour's wait for immediate seating.

- Harry

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[vpFREE] XVP: Out of Town Visitors?

A married couple visited recently, and they like playing slots. If
this happens to you, be sure to take them to the Wynn and insist they
get a players card. We did, and in 30 minutes they both racked up 50+
points. All four of us got a free buffet dinner, and it didn't cost
us a dime. Hey, I don't make the rules, but it sure helps to know
what they are.

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[vpFREE] some points about Venetian/Palazzo after Grand Opening

We were at the Grand Opening this weekend and it was a strange affair but
interesting. I liked the Palazzo and the fact that you could go back and forth
easily on the 1st floor to the Venetian. So if your play was bad in one
casino, change casinos and hope for better luck.

There is a bank of 10 $1 multiplay/multidenomination VP machines at the
Palazzo, outside the high roller area. It has 9/6 JB. This is a lot more
machines than the measly 2 at the Venetian. Also there is a progressive on one of
the games. The $5 VP bank nearby was getting a lot of play and hits on DDB,
bad deuces, 9/6 JB, and 9/7 DB.

The room at the Palazzo was much better decorated than the Venetian. Our
suite had a flat floor - no step-down, but I think some do still have the
step-down. Our host was very accommodating in upgrading me to RFB after I did a
LOT of play ($5 reels and VP). The beds were plush and very comfortable. Flat
screen TVs, including in the bathroom.

By the way - warning for those staying at Palazzo -- construction is still
occurring, so you may hear odd noises, hammering, etc., starting as early as 4
am (we did). The Palazzo spa is not open yet either.

We ate at Tao which has excellent sushi and other Japanese food. We also
ate at the new Morale's in the Palazzo, which has excellent aged beef - the
best filet I've eaten in about 20 years, as well as fresh seafood and other
items (it is a French bistro). It is open for lunch (12-3) and dinner. The
service was excellent at both.

The new Club Grazie unfortunately has lowered its cashback rates. There are
some good deals for new signups though. The best is for 4000 points (that
would be $12000 VP) - you get the regular cashback, plus 1 Blue Man group
ticket, one $75 Canyon Ranch spa treatment, $50 Casino level food court comps,
and $75 slot credits. Also earn 3000 points and new signups get a slot tourney
invite with 2 complimentary suite nights. And players also get entries into
the daily tournament. Right now there is a slightly different one than the
usual "wheel deal", with a lot more prizes. I think it runs out before the
end of Jan.

The cashback rates are something along this line: Earn 2500 points and get
either $15 slot credits (best deal - though I always play and lose the $),
$10 Club Grazie Gift card, or $5 cash.

At Grazie Level $1 coin-in gets 1 point reels, $3 coin for 1 pt VP.
At Gold Level (requires 30,000 points for the current year) - $1 reels = 1.5
points; $2.50 VP gets 1 pt.
At Platinum level (big 600,000 points needed) $1 reels = 2 points; $2 VP
gets 1pt.

However, definitely at Gold level (and even for less play), you get lots of
tournament entries with free rooms, and some other perks which can be nice.
Your points also qualify you for end of year Grazzi gifts (unfortunately
selection is slim).

Vegas locals also may get weekly cash mailers. So use a Vegas local address
for the Venetian. They don't penalize you like Harrah's properties do.

If you show a Diamond or other "elite" card new signers can be upgraded to
Gold, but this perk isn't available if you already have a slot card.

The new Palazzo is very pretty with a lovely indoor waterfall. It seems
quite large because of the open feel of it. The shops continue the Venetian
shop area, and many are still closed. Upstairs in the shop it seemed like a
long and confusing walk around.

The "high roller" lounge in the Palazzo is apparently "platinum" - not for
"gold" members. Though if you walk in through the hi roller slot area you may
be able to eat without anyone asking for a card. Or you might be questioned
and told to leave. If your host books you, ask to get the "gold key" and
check in at VIP check in. If so, you can go into the "platinum" lounge, even
if you aren't. Just flash the "gold key" (I'm keeping mine.) At least for
this weekend they had more food than the Venetian's Gold Lounge. There was
hot tea/coffee, lemonade, but no soda or juice bottles. There were a lot more
servers who brought cocktails though.

Parking for the Palazzo is probably easier than for the Venetian, with
underground parking from Spring Mountain road.

Easy access between The Wynn and Palazzo by foot bridge might make playing
at these two places a good combo - especially if you are a Vegas local willing
to put through enough play to get the extra weekly mailers these places send.

As for the Grand Opening - it was a little strange, with invited guests on
Thursday being "treated" to wine and champagne open bars (but no soda pop!!!
arrrghhh), oddball "entertainers" wearing lampshades or some in nice clothes
acting as living statues as they stood in water (?) or elsewhere, and others of
such an oddball nature that they seemed of questionable taste to my
sensibilities. There were appetizers on many serving stations, but there was a
limited selection of types, so it seemed odd too.

Then the Sat. "Diana Ross" concert took a few oddball turns when the "house
band" on stage kept appearing between big-name acts (Wayne Brady, Andy Garcia
and a Cuban band, Seal, and Ross), so it ended up being about 1/3 of the
entertainment, and was pretty monotonous and not that good. A preview of
"Jersey Boys" was also included, and that looks great (show opens in April).
Surprisingly, people left the concert in droves when Diana started "singing" -
apparently lipsyncing pre-recorded music (no band or backup singers), or at
least singing with herself. Also the big screens overhead which were so helpful
earlier so that the huge audience could actually see the performers, suddenly
went to blank - whether because Ross is getting old (who could tell with all
that makeup and huge wig anyway) or because of lipsyncing (which was obvious
anyway). It was very annoying, which may also have led to the early exodus.
At the end of the show, the music ended, and Diana said "One more time..."
apparently expecting to go into a nice encore, only to have the music remain
off. She said "oh, no more music" - seemed confused - and exited through
the curtain without a goodbye, leaving the audience with jaws dropping open.
Very odd. "Host" Wayne Brady had his show going on, so he only did the
opening - which also seemed odd. Why not close his show and have him announce the
guests and do numbers or something in between, instead of the house band?
The show was too long and that house band really diluted the impact of the
better performers. Seal was the best thing, as everyone commented afterward as
we tried to figure out what was going on with the Diana Ross part.



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[vpFREE] I just booked a trip to Vegas - Got Recommendations?

I had to use some vouchers at Southwest before losing them and will be
in Vegas Feb 12-15. I booked a cheap rate at The Orleans. I plan on
playing $1 9/6 JoB. Now where did I put that Bob Dancer training disc?

I plan on playing at the Orleans, Palms, the Hilton and if the deal (
http://www.arizonacharliesdecatur.com/promos/model-dialog/page.asp?doc=AZC-Acquisition_Promo.jpg
) still exists I'll play a session at one of the Arizona Charlies.
This deal applies to video poker right?

For fun, I want to see Penn and Teller and visit the pinball hall of
fame. I might go to Spamalot or Amazing Jonathon or Carrot Top. If
I'm at the Hilton, I'll see the Star Trek Experience. Can I find
cheap tickets for these activities?

I'll sleep when I get home. I'm thumbing through my copy of Jean
Scott's Frugal Gambler for deal ideas.

Are there any other casinos I should consider for Video Poker?

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[vpFREE] Sams Town + Emerald

Always seem to forget to read/post here - foolish :( There is another
$1 9/6 JOB 1 or 2 rows down from the $1 3/5s near the cage. Headed
towards the new bar outside new Sports Book. At the last Emerald
Orientation meeting it was almost comical watching them "stir" the
drawing drum. So few non-guests there that close to a 1/3 (my guess)
got 1 of the 20 pieces ($100/$200/$500) of the $5000. Only $100 for
me ;) Glad to finally see a figure for benefit tier points. Was doing
much more than 125,000 per quarter but won't anymore. Must admit over
half-way to April renewal already but... Maybe I need help :)

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[vpFREE] Re: Good Family Restaurant at MGM Properties

My son loves the Rain Forest Cafe at the MGM and the EPSN Zone at New
York New York.

> >
> > I'm looking to take my family to a restaurant and use some of my
MGM
> comps. Any suggestions besides buffets?

>

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Smoking Bans/Now: Comped Bartop SOP



In a message dated 1/20/2008 2:27:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
krauseinvegas@cox.net writes:

You weren't playing nor were you
with a player who was playing but you just wanted a drink that you didn't
want to pay for? Were they asking you to do that? To see what the employees
would say as a part of your shop? Just seems like we're sometimes trying to
take advantage. Isn't the idea of a free drink to "comp" a person who is
playing and not just free drinks? Am I missing something

Scot, best we discuss this privately. I don't want to get too much into the
whys and wherefores of my work.

Karen

"She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite what you
would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot."
- Mark Twain

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[vpFREE] Re: Tuscany Casino ups its top freeplay amount.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jw776655" <jw776655@...> wrote:
>
> The Tuscany's top freeplay is now $30 twice per week (i.e., $60 total
> per week).
>
> Does anyone have an idea what the average coinin is to receive this?

No. I have no idea what they are using these days.

>
> Has anyone here received this amount?

Yes, this month and next month.

Dick

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[vpFREE] Re: Limit Cell Phone Use In Casino ?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mac McClellan" <mac_mcclellan@...>
wrote:
>
> Oh yes, the dreaded "Wheel-Of-TORTURE". When they first came out they
> cranked the volume up loud to attract attention and I thought it
would
> drive me crazy!

My "most hated" is the caveman keno game...which are readily available
on the multi-gane, multi demonination machines.

Don the Dentist

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[vpFREE] Re: Limit Cell Phone Use In Casino ?

Oh yes, the dreaded "Wheel-Of-TORTURE". When they first came out they
cranked the volume up loud to attract attention and I thought it would
drive me crazy! (short trip)

Mac
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, b.glazer@... wrote:
...I dream of some machine (with no player sitting at it)
yelling "wheel - of - fortune" at the passers-by -- and at me.
>
> I've been tempted to call a floor person and tell them that I'm
enjoying playing, but the noise from the other machine is going to
force me to quit early to avoid a headache, can they please turn down
the volume on that thing, or would they rather lose my business!
>
> --BG

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[vpFREE] Re: Limit Cell Phone Use In Casino ?

> 2a. Limit Cell Phone Use In Casino ?
> Date: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:32 am ((PST))
>
> Howdy
>
> How often are we distracted by a lengthy cell phone conversation while we
> try to concentrate on our VP play? I can understand a received emergency call
> or someone calling a loved one to announce their jackpot hit. But turning
> your seat into a phone booth is uncalled for.
>
> I would like to see a posted sign requesting the patron to temporarily
> leave their playing area to converse so as not to disturb their fellow players.
>
> Banning cell phones I think would be unrealistic.
>
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
>
>

Cell phones are a distraction wherever they are - whether someone is making a call while walking down a street, sitting at the next table at a restaurant, on the airplane during the "permitted" minutes before takeoff / after landing, etc etc etc. My opinion is, the quieter the usual environment, the less acceptable the phone. Definitely not during public lectures, concerts, movies, etc., where everyone is in the room for the express purpose of listening to something other than your cell phone, AND (the important part) WITHOUT the interruption / distraction of your cell phone, as an essential element to enjoying the concert.

Other loud noises are equally offensive - loud conversations by drunks (usually slightly less interesting than those who are simply trying to be heard over the other noises), headphones with music that are so loud that they are really speakers, cars that are just one big speaker and are so loud that when they pull up next to you, you feel the vibrations in your own car -- and so on.

I heard someone tell a story once about someone speaking loudly on a cell phone, giving their number out to the other party to the conversation. The person took down their number and then called the "broadcaster" to thank them for telling us all how to reach them, and that he'd try to call them again sometime when they might find it as offensive as he just did!

Casinos, on the other hand, are already loaded with distracting noises, so it's just one more problem, but not as much of an offense to me - any more than the other distractions. I absolutely hate it when I go to bed after a four hour VP session and instead of dreaming of that flashing "call attendant" and the silly music that often plays (don't I wish it were the case that I saw that so much that I then dreamt about it when I quit), I dream of some machine (with no player sitting at it) yelling "wheel - of - fortune" at the passers-by -- and at me.

I've been tempted to call a floor person and tell them that I'm enjoying playing, but the noise from the other machine is going to force me to quit early to avoid a headache, can they please turn down the volume on that thing, or would they rather lose my business!

--BG

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