[vpFREE] fiesta/stations does not value my play

I stopped playing at Fiesta after they removed the 4700
Jokers last May/June. They never did value my play as a visitor.
250K annually and I had to beg for free rooms("use your points")
I have a new home now that appreciates my play and comps my rooms and
more for 25¢ play @ 100.6.

Jim Mason

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[vpFREE] Re: Silverton - 9/6 JoB PROG

Don James wrote:

> I was just at Silverton last week and there are some
> 9/6 JoB progressives at the bar at Mi Casa. There
> are also a few triple and five play 9/6 JoB machines
> there.

Thanks for the update on these bartops at Silverton's
Mi Casa Bar. Here's more info on them.

Some of the Mi Casa bartops have 25c 9/6 JoB with a
progressive on the royal and straight flush.

Other Mi Casa bartops have 25c/50c/$1/$2 9/6 JoB 3/5
play (no progressive).

Elsewhere at Silverton, the $5 8/5 BP outside the
high-limit room is MIA. And the SpinPoker and
Multi-Strikes with 8/5 BP inside the high-limit room
are now 50c/$1/$2 instead of $1/$5/$10/$25.

The database has been updated.

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[vpFREE] Re: Fiesta/Stations point usage changes

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nudge51" <nudge51@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: "mroejacks" <rgmustain@...>
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Fiesta/Stations point usage changes
>
>
> The Fiestas have sent out a mailer that
> > indicates they will be allowing 600 amigo points to be exchanged
for
> > $1 in free play. I believe amigo points are new points earned
> > starting very soon (1/25?).
>
> Do you mean to say that for a mere $2,400.00 coin in, I can earn a
whole
> dollar's worth of free play? Doesn't that work out to a return
greater than
> .041%? Just what the hell was I thinkin' when I divorced them back
in July?
> Now with this news, I'm like that kid in the Disney World
commercial, I'm
> too excited to sleep.

I have noticed there are several new machines located near the Fiesta
entrances with "Amigo" in the face plates. These look like slot
machines, but just what is the purpose? Could it be the free play can
only be put through these? That .041% may be much less.

Dick

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[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas BLOG - 27 JAN 2008

Time to Think about Taxes

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Re: [vpFREE] Fiesta Update

This also also affect your mailer levels. Their mailer bounce back are
based on points. If you play only Optimum your requirement is doubled
again.

--- George Lee <glee4ever@yahoo.com> wrote:

> This may been posted before but deserves to be posted again:
>
> Saw red stickers on Optimum play machines that now
> say $4 in for one point.
>
>
>
>

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Fiesta/Stations point usage changes


From: "mroejacks" <rgmustain@aol.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Fiesta/Stations point usage changes

The Fiestas have sent out a mailer that
> indicates they will be allowing 600 amigo points to be exchanged for
> $1 in free play. I believe amigo points are new points earned
> starting very soon (1/25?).

Do you mean to say that for a mere $2,400.00 coin in, I can earn a whole
dollar's worth of free play? Doesn't that work out to a return greater than
.041%? Just what the hell was I thinkin' when I divorced them back in July?
Now with this news, I'm like that kid in the Disney World commercial, I'm
too excited to sleep.
Nudge

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[vpFREE] Fiesta Update

This may been posted before but deserves to be posted again:

Saw red stickers on Optimum play machines that now
say $4 in for one point.

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[vpFREE] ROR, was Kelly Bankroll, 25cent NSUD 3-play

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rosemontwestwood"
<rosemontwestwood@...> wrote:
> Thank you for your responses to my question! I had to scramble for
> the smelling salts when Anne (girlfriend) saw the 20-40K figure.
> Maybe I shouldn't have asked about the Kelly bankroll. I'm OK with a
> $600-800 session bankroll. As far as coin-in, I would say 180-250K
> yearly would be a fair estimate, although I should be tracking that a
> little bit more carefully. Also, I suppose I could drop down to 3-5
> lines and play dimes, but the best paytable is pseudo-NSU. At a
> nickle, I'd rather watch paint dry.
>
> Does this info help with my question of a set-aside amount? I do have
> a yearly loss limit amount in mind.
>
> Thanks! Eric

Dunbar's got a tool that will give an exact answer, but for that many
hands, using the normal approximation won't be far off:

$250K/$1.25 = 200,000 hands at 5 coin quarters.

1SD = SQRT(Variance x hands) = SQRT(26 x 200,000) = 2,280 bets =
$2,850 at 5 coin quarters.

So:
68% chance of plus or minus $2,850
95% chance of plus or minus %5,700
about a 2.5% chance of losing more than $5,700

The cashback barely covers the negative expectation of NSUD. Assuming
no mistakes in play.

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[vpFREE] Re: Monte Carlo update

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, DRAlNBRAMAGE@... wrote:
>
> There's an interesting article in the Saturday Las Vegas Sun about
the
> emergency response resources. Next time you see a Las Vegas cop or
fireman say.
> "Thank you for risking your life so us citizens can be safe."

> In a message dated 1/27/2008 11:53:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> misscraps@... writes:
>
> As of today they are saying that the first 27 floors of the Monte
Carlo and
>
> the casino may open soon.
>

Capt Steve Smith and his wife Jill are friends of my peg. Steve
interestingly enough spent his first day on the job as a fireman at
the MGM fire.

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[vpFREE] Re: STAY AWAY FROM NEW YORK, NEW YORK

Joel Fink wrote:
> I definitely remember and I said I wouldn't go without RFB. Well
> they switch back and forth with their offers. The one I have now says
> RFB.
> Unless I made a point of it good ole Steve Bernstein was going to
> screw me out of any comps above the room. He finally comped $100
> /day. Big freaken deal. It is not worth the pain in the ass. While
> marketing keeps sending me these nice offers, the hosts there suck
> and this goes for Babara Benoit too.

I'll intercede at the mention of Barbara (Barnot). We regard her as
one of the strongest hosts we've ever had the pleasure to deal with --
certainly among the most gracious and intelligent. In one instance,
she particularly extended herself.

If you had a sour encounter with her, I strongly expect it reflected
that her hands were tied by a stringent player development guideline
that restricted her discretion in the matter.

We've avoided NYNY since they tightened up theos restrictively. But
we'd follow her somewhere else in a heartbeat.

- Harry

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Re: [vpFREE] Laughlin Trip

Hi - My husband and I took this trip last April and it
was wonderful - never had to touch our luggage - they
did everything for us. When we arrived at the airport
(across the river), the bus was waiting for us and we
were greeted at the hotel with a drink (altho somewhat
watery) and our packet of room keys and info - they
transported our luggage to our room so we could go
immediately to the casino and play. We charged our
food to our room and in the end, depending on how much
you play, these charges were removed and we only had
to pay the tip. We rented a car and drove to LV -
there is only one place to get one and that is at the
airport but they will pick you up at the hotel and
transport you there. We reserved a car at Noon and
returned it the next day at Noon. It is an hour and a
half drive - with only one stop along the way for
potty and a drink. We had a reserved room downtown at
Fremont comped so just parked the car in the garage
across the street and spent the day/night downtown -
we didn't attempt to go to the Strip - altho you have
that option with a car. Harrah's in Laughlin is a
very, very nice and probably the best casino in
Laughlin but at the far end of the "Strip" and up a
hill so it's pretty hard to walk it. You could take
the river shuttle (which we did once) but the cost is
$5 pp so getting a taxi is a bit cheaper and quicker.
We ate most of our meals at Harrah's - had lunch at
the River Belle but this was for convenience more than
anything else. Our trip was from Tues night - about
10:00 PM to Fri morning - about 7:00 AM. so taking a
day off was quite nice and I would recommend it - nice
to drive in the desert and see mountains, etc. but not
much else. This was our first trip to Laughlin and
enjoyed it very much - not as busy and hectic as Vegas
but still fun with about 7 casinos to choice from and
lots of different machines. After that trip, I have
been offered many other trips including the one I'm
going to take the end of Feb to New Orleans - another
Harrah's comped trip for me and a guest (this time a
girlfriend) and I'm looking forward to it. Hope I've
answered some of your questions, feel free to contact
me if you have any others. B

--- coachvee@aol.com wrote:

> Hi Gang:
> Hedy and I will be taking advantage of a free air
> junket to Harrah's
> Laughlin late in March and we are thinking about
> renting a car and driving up to Las
> Vegas one day during our stay. We've never been to
> Laughlin and would
> appreciate any info/tips people on the board could
> give us about the Harrah's
> there. We know about the 50-play nickels with 9/6
> JOB but we're in the dark about
> rooms, restaurants, VIP lounges, amenities etc.
> Also, where would we rent a car? Do we have to do it
> at the airport or is
> there a car rental office in town? Like I said, we
> know nothing about the
> logistics of this place.
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> Regards,
> CoachVee (Tom V) & Hedy
>
>
>
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Re: [vpFREE] Monte Carlo update

There's an interesting article in the Saturday Las Vegas Sun about the
emergency response resources. Next time you see a Las Vegas cop or fireman say.
"Thank you for risking your life so us citizens can be safe."
_http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jan/26/inside-how-they-coped/#/Monte_Car
lo_fire/_
(http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jan/26/inside-how-they-coped/#/Monte_Carlo_fire/)


In a message dated 1/27/2008 11:53:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
misscraps@aol.com writes:

As of today they are saying that the first 27 floors of the Monte Carlo and

the casino may open soon.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: STAY AWAY FROM NEW YORK, NEW YORK

I definitely remember and I said I wouldn't go without RFB. We'll they switch back and forth with their offers. The one I have now says RFB. Unless I made a point of it good ole Steve Bernstein was going to screw me out of any comps above the room. He finally comped $100 /day. Big freaken deal. It is not worth the pain in the ass.
While marketing keeps sending me these nice offers, the hosts there suck and this goes for Babara Benoit too.
Fyi, I tried calling Mandaly Bay and they offered me 3 nts XB suite and RFB.

Joel

----- Original Message ----
From: lfcmja2000 <lfcmja@aol.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:49:36 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: STAY AWAY FROM NEW YORK, NEW YORK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups. com, Joel Fink <joel0457@.. .> wrote:
>
> I just got back from a 6 night trip to Vegas with the last three
(12/28-12/31) at NYNY. My host comped me into a suite with another
room plus RFB.
> When I went to check out, not only were all food charges on the
bill but I was charged $200 for one nt for the second room. They did
renove the charge for the second room at checkout. My total food
charges for the 3 nts were only $400.
> I spoke to my host Steven Bernstein who told me I was over comped.
I put through over 250K+ during the three days I was there.
> Steven also told me I was RFL not RFB. (interesting ,upon
returning home there was an offer from NYNY telling me what a great
customer I was offereing me 3nts suite, $300 FP and RFB)
> I will not be staying at NYNY again because they are not worth
that level of play and I feel they do not keep their word.
> My question is, even if I was only RFL, is there a minimum amount
that should have been deducted from my bill. I asked Steven to send
the details. Personally, I think he is just full of shit and would
recommend avoiding him.

Yeah..I'm way behind on my VPFree post readings. However, if you
remember I had a somewhat similar situation with NYNY and in
particular Steven Bernstein( msg. # 81652) and you replied to my
post ( msg. # 82707).
I've read some of your followup but the bottom line is still that
NYNY doesn't deserve our play and Steven Bernstein is a shithead !

Larry Feldman

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