RE: [vpFREE] Re: Dancer's Classes at the Palms Canceled

 


I thought the 100% games at Palms had card readers but just didn't earn points. 

 
Possibly you're correct. They would be of no interest to me either way and I guess I misunderstood what i was told by someone who does play the games.

Bob
 
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Dancer's Classes at the Palms Canceled

 

I thought the 100% games at Palms had card readers but just didn't earn points.  

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On Jul 20, 2014, at 8:15 PM, "Bob Dancer bobdancervp@hotmail.com [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 


1.    On the classes, 3 of the 4 of them were going to be the 100% games. These games have no place for a player's card, and so the casino cannot track how much play the classes generate. Since they couldn't track whether the classes were effective or not in terms of bringing in additional players/play, Greenberg saw no reason to have the classes.


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Re: [vpFREE] the Cromwell

 

We couldn't figure out if/where Cromwell parking was for guests.  All we could find was valet along the side on Flamingo.
So we wandered over to the rear entrance of the Flamingo property to try out their garage
The entrance to the garage was blocked by a sign saying the lot was full
No employees were around, and we drove in
There were several scattered spaces, mostly on the top deck with the sun beating down on the cars
The elevator to get to the ground floor was an adventure in itself.  It stopped at each floor and we were packed in like sardines.
Once we got to 3rd floor, there was no more room in the elevator.
It was herky jerky and we started to discuss taking bets if we would make it to the bottom without incident.
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Subject: [vpFREE] the Cromwell

Does anyone know what is in the structure on the left side of the Cromwell as   you face it?  It seems odd this is a separate part.  If it is parking, isn't   there still parking within the main body of the Cromwell on floors 2-3 or so?    When we were there recently I was told there is valet parking only.  If so, what   is that parking garage behind the Cromwell on Flamingo, which now has "entrance"   signs leading inside (but you can only enter if you are driving on Flamingo from   the east, not from Las Vegas Blvd).       Trying to park in the valet from Linq Ave (formerly Audrey) is confusing, with   do not enter signs.    I'm confused.    ------------------------------------  Posted by: Misscraps <misscraps@aol.com>  ------------------------------------    vpFREE Links: http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1955/20228/V/Links.htm      ------------------------------------    Yahoo Groups Links    <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vpFREE/    <*> Your email settings:      Individual Email | Traditional    <*> To change settings online go to:      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vpFREE/join      (Yahoo! ID required)    <*> To change settings via email:      vpFREE-digest@yahoogroups.com       vpFREE-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com    <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:      vpFREE-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com    <*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to:      https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Dancer's Classes at the Palms Canceled

 

savorvpx wrote: 

Plans to resume Bob Dancer's free video poker classes next month at the Palms have been canceled. The classes will pick up again at South Point beginning September 10.

followed by:

 
And now The Palms president has canceled his appearance on Dancer's radio show because he had second thoughts. None of this is making me feel secure as a video poker player at the Palms.
 

 Although you may have heard about these items separately, both of these items were broken to me in the same email. Although I'm disappointed, I do understand Todd Greenberg's reasons for doing this.

1.    On the classes, 3 of the 4 of them were going to be the 100% games. These games have no place for a player's card, and so the casino cannot track how much play the classes generate. Since they couldn't track whether the classes were effective or not in terms of bringing in additional players/play, Greenberg saw no reason to have the classes.

2.     On the radio show, Richard and I try to ask "interesting" questions --- at least some of them relate to what we think the Palms might not be doing exactly correctly. (For example I'm not a fan of the way they do the weekly drawings these days so there were going to be questions about them.) Since Greenberg reports to a board of directors, there's always the possibility in a "tough" radio interview that some of the board won't like one or more of his answers. This creates a big possible downside for him.

This kind of downside didn't exist for George Maloof or Michael Gaughan when they were on the radio show because for the most part, they didn't report to a board of directors.

For the most part, casino managers do not appear on the show --- by their choice. We'd have tough questions for any of them and they see more downside than upside. The fact that Todd Greenberg from the Palms came closer to this than other casino executives have recently is no reason to feel any less secure at the Palms than you would otherwise.

Like it or not, casinos are not charities and they are all trying to make a buck --- just as the players are.

Bob

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[vpFREE] Re: LVRJ: Caesars changing Quad's name to Linq Hotel & Casino

 

The comments in LVRJ are interesting.   


Harrah's was the king.  Reminds me of a guy who owns bar for years.  As business falls he decides  he'll paint up things, add a room, get a new pool table, make his food menu bigger  and clean up the restroom. You hear the manager saying, "when everybody hears about new pool table and other stuff they will  come running in."
He forgets the food was crap and he has same chef.  No bands, no promotions, same high priced booze and same manager.  But, the place is all painted up. "Hey,"  the mgr  says, "I gotta raise prices."  Place looks nice.  I'll be making si much.  "I think I'll buy a couple more bars. If I have most of the bars in town, I can raise prices and lower portion size in restaurant. I'll have most of joints in town.  Boy will I make $$!"  Other bars in town decide to raise prices to make as much as the king bars. 

Everybody in town starts cooking at home, they buy their beer and whiskey at package store. They switch from pool to horse shoes and badminton.    It takes a few years till folks get tired of being ripped. 

Bar owners sit around wondering where the customers have gone.  "It's the recession " , they say.  They forget that gambling business is a recession business.  It's always been.  In recession, however, they may have lost the "family" gambler.  All $30 a day bankroll.  To keep gamblers coming they need to offer fair shake, and .....they don't.

Just one guys opinion........Jeep

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[vpFREE] Re: Dancer's Classes at the Palms Canceled

 

And now The Palms president has canceled his appearance on Dancer's radio show because he had second thoughts. None of this is making me feel secure as a video poker player at the Palms.

On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 4:47 PM, savorvpx <savorvpx@yahoo.com> wrote:

I just read this on Today's News at LVA:

Plans to resume Bob Dancer's free video poker classes next month at the Palms have been canceled. The classes will pick up again at South Point beginning September 10.

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/whatsnews.cfm#18145 

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[vpFREE] Re: Joker Games

 

Gimmeaquad wrote: > These are 18/7/5/4700 Joker's. 

Thanks, Gimmeaquad. At 99.29% the Skyline Casino's 18/7/5/4700 Jokers are a long way from 101%. Too bad.

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[vpFREE] the Cromwell

 

Does anyone know what is in the structure on the left side of the Cromwell as you face it? It seems odd this is a separate part. If it is parking, isn't there still parking within the main body of the Cromwell on floors 2-3 or so? When we were there recently I was told there is valet parking only. If so, what is that parking garage behind the Cromwell on Flamingo, which now has "entrance" signs leading inside (but you can only enter if you are driving on Flamingo from the east, not from Las Vegas Blvd).

Trying to park in the valet from Linq Ave (formerly Audrey) is confusing, with do not enter signs.

I'm confused.

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[vpFREE] Re: NCL Getaway video poker and blackjack rules

 

I just got off the Celebrity Summit.  VP  was bad but BJ is 8 deck hand shuffled  $10 minimum and dealer hits soft 17. BJ pays 3 to 2 except on the single deck game. 

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[vpFREE] Re: Progressive strategy change and variance

 

vp_wiz wrote: "I agree in principal with value of mcr strategy when it comes to any higher risk play.  However, for mosr of my cut and dry play, (ror =< 1%; or equiv b/r > 2 kelly), I find mcr yields inadequate risk reduction to be worth bother with."

I'm not sure that double Kelly (or half Kelly, depending on if you're looking at bankroll or betsize) is sufficient to just assume maxEV strategy. Maybe it is, maybe you need more like 5x Kelly. But there is also the time factor. MCR strategy is centered on that next royal, which is probably attainable this year. The Kelly approach is longer term, you need at least an N0 cycle, which is likely (hopefully) many royals, and you probably need to do that this year since you can't (legally) carry forward gambling losses.

But I can't find any fault with your basic argument, namely if you have a big enough bankroll and can play enough hands per tax year, then maxEV is optimal. Essentially, it's a longer term view, you don't really care what the cost of your next royal is, what you care about is your yearly result. This assumes you have lots of opportunities to hit these royals, which would be a questionable assumption on a progressive, and might be a questionable assumption on a promotion that may only last a month or so. Additionally, there might be hidden value in extending the time to hit a royal, such as gaining more meter movement on a progressive or perhaps getting one more mailer before cutoff.

Another angle would be the emotional angle. If you went into a 5 royal drought, would that cause you great emotional anguish? Now, MCR can't protect you from 5 royal droughts, but would you sleep better at night knowing that if you play with MCR you would be minimizing the cost of that 5 royal drought? If so, you might be a candidate for MCR.

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