[vpFREE] Re: ADVANTAGE SLOTS

 



Hi Mickey,

In an earlier thread, you mentioned being able to see the coin meters on the older Vision games. I found one of these machines, and could see three meters: Coin In, Coin Out, and Coin Drop. I assumed that Coin In was equal to the Coin Out (the return) plus the Coin Drop (the vig). But the values I recorded from this particular machine don't add up. The Coin Out value is significantly higher than the Coin In value, implying a return of about 140%.

This machine is not returning 140%, so I must going about this the wrong way.

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[vpFREE] Re: Vegas Trip Last Week of July...

 

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> From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of H.
> F.
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:46 PM
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Vegas Trip Last Week of July...
>
>
>
> Several casinos have loss rebates - Riviera, Palms, Tropicana, Cosmopolitan and now Hooter's according to the latest Vegas Values Report.
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> Scot Krause wrote:
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> ---Westin and both Canneries too.
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>
I haven't been in Nevada if 4 1/2 years now so I have no idea what the inventory on the casino floors looks like today. I'm wondering if any slot machines (not video pokers) have been disqualified from these loss rebate promotions.

If these type promotions had been going on in the heyday of advantage slots the casinos would have gotten crushed. That is, the ones with the right equipment. It would have been so lucrative that some guys would've been going down to D Street or St. Vincent's looking for new sign-ups. On some type of advantage slots it's easy to win but show a loss, or take a small loss while showing a much bigger loss. It would have been done through slot card manipulation.

Take a game like Wild Cherry Bonus Pie/Diamond Thief. Roughly, 2/3's of the payback is in the line pays and 1/3'rd of the payback is in the bonuses. What this means is you are taking a big drop on your way to collecting the bonuses. You are almost always behind until you fill the Pie/Valise up. The Pie/Valise would have been worked down to one to go, the card would get pulled, the ticket would be cashed out, a new bill would go in the machine, then the play would be finished.

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[vpFREE] Re: 9/6 JoB at Revel (Atlantic City)

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "m" <mxpxman264@...> wrote:
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> I know their machines are server based, but I thought according to gaming regulations, they weren't allowed to change their EV freely. I thought they had to follow certain guidelines before changing the house edge on game.

Only 100 machines, none of them VP are server based.

Larry F.

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Vegas Trip Last Week of July...

 

From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of H.
F.
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:46 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Vegas Trip Last Week of July...

Several casinos have loss rebates - Riviera, Palms, Tropicana, Cosmopolitan
and now Hooter's according to the latest Vegas Values Report.

---Westin and both Canneries too.

Scot

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[vpFREE] Re: 9/6 JoB at Revel (Atlantic City)

 

I know their machines are server based, but I thought according to gaming regulations, they weren't allowed to change their EV freely. I thought they had to follow certain guidelines before changing the house edge on game.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "H. F." <sector7up2@...> wrote:
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "m" <mxpxman264@> wrote:
> >
> > According to the database Revel has some 9/6 JoB in multi-denominations. The database doesn't specify how many or where tho. Does anyone have an idea of where these full pay machines are located? I was there last week and didn't see any. They have lots of VP and they are all pretty much multi game machines so it's pretty hard to sort through all of them. Thanks in advance for help.
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> Last I've heard, it's only in $1 on one or two machines near the bar with pole dancers. These seem to be frequently changed so they may not be there when you're looking.
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[vpFREE] Re: 9/6 JoB at Revel (Atlantic City)

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "m" <mxpxman264@...> wrote:
>
> According to the database Revel has some 9/6 JoB in multi-denominations. The database doesn't specify how many or where tho. Does anyone have an idea of where these full pay machines are located? I was there last week and didn't see any. They have lots of VP and they are all pretty much multi game machines so it's pretty hard to sort through all of them. Thanks in advance for help.

Last I've heard, it's only in $1 on one or two machines near the bar with pole dancers. These seem to be frequently changed so they may not be there when you're looking.

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[vpFREE] Re: Vegas Trip Last Week of July...

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ms069279" <m_savorelli@...> wrote:
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> Hey group,
>
> Just booked a trip out to LV from 7/24 - 7/31.  Will have transportation so travel will not be a problem.  Does anyone know of any offers (gaming, shows, food, or otherwise) that I should definitely take advantage of and not miss??

Several casinos have loss rebates - Riviera, Palms, Tropicana, Cosmopolitan and now Hooter's according to the latest Vegas Values Report. 

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: 9/6 JoB at Revel (Atlantic City)

 

I was also thinking of the problem when you change denomination. If you
want to revert to a lower denomination, the machine will not lower its
level. It goes only upward.

On 5/20/2012 4:24 PM, m wrote:
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> Its part of their plan to make you mess up and lose more? I've hit
> draw many times when going too fast after a faulty button fails to
> hold a card... Really sux.
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>, MHS
> <mspevack@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On a related Revel VP question, have other people noticed that the
> > keyboard buttons do not always function as expected. Other players
> > around me said they noticed odd quirks, too. Quite odd for spanking new
> > machines.
> >
> > On 5/20/2012 3:03 PM, m wrote:
> > >
> > > According to the database Revel has some 9/6 JoB in
> > > multi-denominations. The database doesn't specify how many or where
> > > tho. Does anyone have an idea of where these full pay machines are
> > > located? I was there last week and didn't see any. They have lots of
> > > VP and they are all pretty much multi game machines so it's pretty
> > > hard to sort through all of them. Thanks in advance for help.
> > >
> > >
>

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[vpFREE] Re: 9/6 JoB at Revel (Atlantic City)

 

Its part of their plan to make you mess up and lose more? I've hit draw many times when going too fast after a faulty button fails to hold a card... Really sux.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, MHS <mspevack@...> wrote:
>
>
> On a related Revel VP question, have other people noticed that the
> keyboard buttons do not always function as expected. Other players
> around me said they noticed odd quirks, too. Quite odd for spanking new
> machines.
>
> On 5/20/2012 3:03 PM, m wrote:
> >
> > According to the database Revel has some 9/6 JoB in
> > multi-denominations. The database doesn't specify how many or where
> > tho. Does anyone have an idea of where these full pay machines are
> > located? I was there last week and didn't see any. They have lots of
> > VP and they are all pretty much multi game machines so it's pretty
> > hard to sort through all of them. Thanks in advance for help.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Re: [vpFREE] 9/6 JoB at Revel (Atlantic City)

 


On a related Revel VP question, have other people noticed that the
keyboard buttons do not always function as expected. Other players
around me said they noticed odd quirks, too. Quite odd for spanking new
machines.

On 5/20/2012 3:03 PM, m wrote:
>
> According to the database Revel has some 9/6 JoB in
> multi-denominations. The database doesn't specify how many or where
> tho. Does anyone have an idea of where these full pay machines are
> located? I was there last week and didn't see any. They have lots of
> VP and they are all pretty much multi game machines so it's pretty
> hard to sort through all of them. Thanks in advance for help.
>
>
>
>

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[vpFREE] Absinthe ticket--gone now

 
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[vpFREE] 9/6 JoB at Revel (Atlantic City)

 

According to the database Revel has some 9/6 JoB in multi-denominations. The database doesn't specify how many or where tho. Does anyone have an idea of where these full pay machines are located? I was there last week and didn't see any. They have lots of VP and they are all pretty much multi game machines so it's pretty hard to sort through all of them. Thanks in advance for help.

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[vpFREE] vpFREE Exchange - MAY 2012

 

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[vpFREE] Jackpot Pictures - MAY 2012

 

Jackpot Pictures - MAY 2012

The vpFREE Yahoo Photo Directory is now open to all vpFREE
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[vpFREE] vpFREE Member Participation Expectations - MAY 2012

 

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[vpFREE] Vegas Values Report - 20 MAY 2012

 

Vegas Values Report - 20 MAY 2012

http://www.americancasinoguide.com/may-20-2012-vegas-values-report.html

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[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 19 MAY 2012

 

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 19 MAY 2012

"Atlantic City Here We Come"

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