Re: [vpFREE] Multi-Strike at South Point

 

I will be going up this weekend.  What are you favorite games to play there?

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The past two Wednesdays, I went to South Point to play Multi-Strike. I checked all 3 of the areas that are listed in the Data Base. They are all gone. I walked the entire casino and cannot find them. If someone has seen them, please let me know.

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[vpFREE] Multi-Strike at South Point

 

The past two Wednesdays, I went to South Point to play Multi-Strike. I checked all 3 of the areas that are listed in the Data Base. They are all gone. I walked the entire casino and cannot find them. If someone has seen them, please let me know.

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[vpFREE] Re: Phil Ivey Accused of Baccarat Scheme

 

I don't know current practice, which may well have changed since I visited England and its casinos over twenty years ago (maybe more). At that time, all casinos were private "clubs" - you joined and had to wait 48 hours before you could play. I was identified as a card counter (presumably, they never actually said) and on my second visit was told my "membership had been cancelled" - with no reason why, just a repetition of the fact - and was not allowed to enter.

I did get (after a long time) a refund of my membership fee (I think ten pounds). Interestingly, the rules of the game were such that it was a nearly impossible game to beat, I just wanted to experience the casino -- and the one time I played, I lost. It was my understanding that cancelling the membership was the standard approach (again, at that time) to card counters. With the rules they had, they didn't have too much to worry about; in order to beat the game, one would have needed to vary one's bet quite a bit, making you easy to identify as a card counter. In their defense, there were many wealthy patrons gambling there, and they certainly could have been at risk for big losses if they allowed a high roller to play with a big bet spread.

Of course, I've been barred from casinos in Nevada, mostly when I was losing there too; you don't have to be winning for a casino to bar you from blackjack, just need to look like you might win soon :)

--BG

2a. Re: Phil Ivey Accused of Baccarat Scheme
> Here's another article.
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> It makes an interesting statement that casinos can withhold
> winnings if players are counting cards in blackjack.  I
> wasn't aware that was the case.  Maybe that is true in
> England though, in which case Ivey picked a bad place for
> this play.
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> http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/62856/the-curious-case-of-poker-pro-phil-iveys-punto-banco-rake
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[vpFREE] Re: Phil Ivey Accused of Baccarat Scheme

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "lfcmja@..." <lfcmja@...> wrote:
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> Forgive my ignorance:
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> If the cards were in the shoe, how could Ivey know which cards were next to be dealt ? Bets are made before the cards are dealt face down to the player .
>

They had requested to use a shuffling machine instead of letting the dealer shuffle so that card orientations would not change. Then they feigned superstition and got the dealer to turn 7s, 8s, and 9s 180 degrees so that they could track those cards because of the imperfect cut on the backing pattern. Then they would know if a 7, 8, or 9 would be the first card out of the shoe. If so, I would assume you then bet on whoever that first card goes to (I think the bank but I'm not sure since I don't play baccarat).

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[vpFREE] Re: Phil Ivey Accused of Baccarat Scheme

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "seedub49" <seedub49@...> wrote:
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> Here's another article.

Forgive my ignorance:

If the cards were in the shoe, how could Ivey know which cards were next to be dealt ? Bets are made before the cards are dealt face down to the player .

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[vpFREE] Re: Phil Ivey Accused of Baccarat Scheme

 

Here's another article.

It makes an interesting statement that casinos can withhold winnings if players are counting cards in blackjack. I wasn't aware that was the case. Maybe that is true in England though, in which case Ivey picked a bad place for this play.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/62856/the-curious-case-of-poker-pro-phil-iveys-punto-banco-rake

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