Re: [vpFREE] Las Vegas Hotel?

 

I will be there this weekend for the first time in a year or so.  Hopefully all the full pay machines are there.  I also hope that they have improved the quality of the screens, the machines often look like they are from the 90s and haven't been upgraded.  

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From: tereivanca <tere@tereivanca.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 9:12 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Las Vegas Hotel?


 
We used to spend lots of time in vegas, but havent been back
for a couple years. My play was usually dueces at the Hilton
and Palms. I see the Hilton is now the LasVegas Hotel...are
the same machines still in the sports book? Is there still
any full pay Jacks or Double Bonus anywhere? Thanks for any help.

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[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 8 AUG 2012

 

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 8 AUG 2012

"Casino Lost-and-Found Policies"

http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=2252

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[vpFREE] Re: Teams form to win lottery XVP

 



What an interesting story, and very well written too!

About ten years ago, I heard about a way to play lotteries that seemed to make sense. Because many people pick numbers based on birthdays and anniversaries, the strategy is to bet only on numbers over 31. Your chances of winning don't change. But if you win, you don't have to share your jackpot with as many players because there are likely to be fewer winning tickets.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dancer <bobdancervp@...> wrote:
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[vpFREE] Re: Las Vegas Hotel?

 

Yes, the same video poker machines are in the sports book. There are some 9/6 Jacks, but I don't think there are any 10/7 DB. Check the vpFREE2 website for details.

Don the Dentist

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tereivanca" <tere@...> wrote:
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> We used to spend lots of time in vegas, but havent been back
> for a couple years. My play was usually dueces at the Hilton
> and Palms. I see the Hilton is now the LasVegas Hotel...are
> the same machines still in the sports book? Is there still
> any full pay Jacks or Double Bonus anywhere? Thanks for any help.
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[vpFREE] Re: Is JoB REALLY 99.54%?

 



When I dealt in Las Vegas, I was surprised to see that in BlackJack etc, the execs were always concerned about the "hold" in terms of what percent of the buy-in was retained by casino. Say someone buys in at the BJ table for $100. They place $5 bets on 100 hands, then cash out for $95. In mathematical terms, the player lost 1% on his entire amount wagered. The casino execs never cared about that; they cared that the player had lost 5% of the money he bought in with.

This might be because the casino's definition of "hold" gives them results that more closely relate to casino profits. Or it might be because it's much much much easier for the casino to track results of a table game using their definition of "hold." (Think of how easy it is for casino to track the cash going into the BJ table slot and how many chips go out of the dealer's tray... vs how difficult it would be to track the total amount wagered.)

So perhaps they talk about video poker "hold" in the same way. And it might make sense from a business perspective. If someone comes into a casino with $100 and sits down at a VP machine, perhaps the most meaningful metric for the casino to track is how much of that $100 will be left whenever the player leaves.

Stuart (RandomStu)
http://stuart-randomthoughts.blogspot.com/

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[vpFREE] Las Vegas Hotel?

 

We used to spend lots of time in vegas, but havent been back
for a couple years. My play was usually dueces at the Hilton
and Palms. I see the Hilton is now the LasVegas Hotel...are
the same machines still in the sports book? Is there still
any full pay Jacks or Double Bonus anywhere? Thanks for any help.

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[vpFREE] Re: Is JoB REALLY 99.54%?

 

If only $910 worth of tickets are being cashed out per $1000 worth of bills going into the machine does that mean that the game is only 91%? No. Some casino employee's make this mistake. They shuould be looking at total wager instead of the money count.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Is JoB REALLY 99.54%?

 

If there's anything to that 91% figure (doubtful), it could mean that
players on average lose 9% of the money they insert in the machine. This could
include more than one "run through" of that money. A different way of
looking at "total payout."

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In a message dated 8/8/2012 5:56:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bobbartop@yahoo.com writes:


--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, S Merrian <sauronsboy@...> wrote:
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> said that the JoB games in AC do not pay out the full 99.54% but closer
to
> 91% in total payout.

Impossible.

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[vpFREE] Re: Is JoB REALLY 99.54%?

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, S Merrian <sauronsboy@...> wrote:
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> said that the JoB games in AC do not pay out the full 99.54% but closer to
> 91% in total payout.

Impossible.

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[vpFREE] Re: Is JoB REALLY 99.54%?

 

Many years ago, the Stardust had some 100%+ games. I knew some of the suits. They told me that these games had a hold of 4%
This was during a time when the pros were banging away.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "johnnyzee48127" <greeklandjohnny@...> wrote:
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> I was talking with a couple of CET Seven Star rated players and a very
> unusual comment was brought up. One of the players is a friend of mine. The other I just met but my friend knew well. So this guy who is my friend's friend is a 'professional gambler' and was dropping a lot of names during his conversation of big-wigs at the CET, Borgata and Revel properties. He said that the JoB games in AC do not pay out the full 99.54% but closer to 91% in total payout. He says he has this confirmed from gaming heads at these casinos but I find it hard to believe.
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> Wow, 91% is hard to believe. Even if you short coin ( -1.375%) you would still have to give up over 7% in play errors. That's tough to do in jacks or better.
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> So, if AC is really holding more than 8% on JOB, they could put in much better games and still make money. I think they should put in 10/7/50 DB and 17/10 loose deuces. With a player return 8% below optimal, why not?
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