[vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LVA - 1 DEC 2015

 

VP
I have to agree with you. Without Ethel from Idaho to prime the pump of these machines the rest of the story falls apart. I do like the part about a casino being a middle man taking a cut of the transaction but both parties have to be taken care of in the transaction.


Rich

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[vpFREE] strange new igt video poker game

 

A deuces wild double double bonus game appeared on brand new machines, 15/9/4/3/3/2/1 plus normal pay tables for the different natural 4 of a kinds as on double double bonus,


Catch??? must bet 6 coins to qualify for the 4 of a kind payouts , nothing if 5 coins or less, all other payouts same amount as 5 coin bet, nothing extra for the 6th coin


Math junkies have fun


M J

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LVA - 1 DEC 2015

My analysis is the casinos make 2 classic mistakes. First of all they use a shotgun approach rather than a rifle approach. The should target the high stakes advantage gamblers! Sorry Bob. At paytables of .25 and less they will never get burnt because of the low jackpots, churn of novice and bad players and the lack advantages players working the machines, since it is not worth their time. They are also worshipers of higher percentages regardless of the size of the pie. The object is to grow the pie! Not shrink it.

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Briefly, Krum's simplistic assumptions don't work for me. My explanation for the inventory/promotion tightenings we've witnessed is straightforward ....





Ten years ago, in any given casino, on a good promotion day it wasn't unusual to find the best banks dominated by reasonably strong "advantage" players (with hapless "ploppies" frustrated they couldn't get a seat). Casinos often witnessed plummeting holds on such banks, all the more troubling to them once promotion cost was factored. A rational mind would expect something to change.





"Advantage" play is far more challenging today, and it takes a more motivated player to be successful. Speaking for myself, I'm finding play a lot more satisfying these days.



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[vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's Response

 

I'm sure Bob won't be surprised that I mostly agree with his
position, as operating games in a reasonable manner (using common
sense to prevent giving an unfair advantage to ANYONE) is implied in
my original thesis. One was even stated directly:
>
> For example, card counting posed a real "threat" when practiced by
> organized teams, with counters spotting opportunities and well
> financed bettors jumping onto them. This was easily eliminated by
> barring mid-deck entry and utilizing shoes rather than single decks.

I also alluded to casino's "giving away the house" by offering more
rewards through the back door (point, mailers and bounceback cash)
than coming in the front door from video poker players.

What Bob didn't address (and I suspect he agrees with me) is that no-
one should be excluded for playing the games the casino offers in the
manner presented.

Casino's ARE in fact "middlemen" in the reallocation of funds.
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[vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LVA - 1 DEC 2015

 

Briefly, Krum's simplistic assumptions don't work for me. My explanation for the inventory/promotion tightenings we've witnessed is straightforward ....

Ten years ago, in any given casino, on a good promotion day it wasn't unusual to find the best banks dominated by reasonably strong "advantage" players (with hapless "ploppies" frustrated they couldn't get a seat). Casinos often witnessed plummeting holds on such banks, all the more troubling to them once promotion cost was factored. A rational mind would expect something to change.

"Advantage" play is far more challenging today, and it takes a more motivated player to be successful. Speaking for myself, I'm finding play a lot more satisfying these days.

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[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 1 DEC 2015

 

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 1 DEC 2015

DECEMBER VEGAS PROMOTIONS

http://jscott.lvablog.com/2015/12/01/december-vegas-promotions-4/

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