Re: [vpFREE] Masks in Casinos

 

Apparently Pechanga tomorrow will be mask-required and NO smoking .. If we ever want to get no smoking permanent this is it . Everyone who has to play nowadays should be giving Pechanga their business. Pala allowing smoking makes the mask requirement a joke as they just leave the masks off for long periods of time to get their fix. 

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I've spent the last 3 days in SoCal and have played at Pala, Sycuan and Harrah's SoCal. All three casinos "require" wearing of masks. Patron compliance is not great. All three casinos still offer beverage service and allow smoking so I'm not sure how they expect compliance anyhow. Casino employees and security do make occasional rounds where they ask patrons to put on their masks. I do not envy them as I've seen several suffer verbal abuse and major attitude from customers. Many people wear the masks over their mouth but not over their nose. Wearing the mask only over the chin is another common technique. If I understand correctly, masks will be encouraged but not required in Nevada casinos so I would anticipate low usage. I've also noticed a surprisingly high amount of customers in casinos that appear to be vulnerable populations for COVID-19.

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Thank you, Candy!  I worry for him.



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I thank your son and all frontline people for their service. If these folks (police, EMT,.hospital workers)  want me to wear a mask or stay 6 feet apart.or stay home I will honor them and help keep them safe by complying.

On Sunday, May 31, 2020, 03:13:37 PM PDT, ken orgera keno60@hotmail.com [vpFREE] <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Exactly!


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Exactly.  What will happen in places where large crowds are (or really anywhere), is the people wearing masks will be confronting people without (aka public shaming).  I've seen it happen, time and time again.  In most instances, the "offender" either puts one on properly (over the mouth AND nose) or says something offensive and leaves the area (either is a win-win for us mask-wearing patrons).

I have several friends who have died of this virus, alone, without family by their side.  My son is a physician in a hospital.  It is not an easy death to watch.  It tears him up and weighs heavily on his heart.  Wear a mask.  Help your fellow man (or woman).  Is that too much to ask?



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Well said. Exactly my sentiment. 

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 7:33 PM Barry Glazer b.glazer@att.net [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

My personal observations in locales other than casinos (which I'm still avoiding for now) is that non-vulnerable (whatever that REALLY means) patrons are the ones without masks (I'll say it:  young people).  My particular concern is that they are, in my opinion, the most likely to spend time in large groups and close proximity to others, and if exposed, are the most likely to be in public as a "positive" but asymptomatic, thus high risk for spread of virus.  I don't know if they don't "get it" that the masks are not to protect themselves (if that were the case, I wouldn't care so much if they chose not to protect themselves) but are to protect others if they happen to be positive, and especially asymptomatic positive.  Either they don't know, or perhaps they really don't care if they expose others to disease, which is kind of sad and scary at the same time.  Or perhaps some of them think it is a hoax.  Who knows -- but we tend to steer very wide when we encounter no-mask persons in public, and to get out of the store or other locale pretty quickly - even quicker when the employees are maskless, or as described, "wearing" a mask on their chin.

With that shooting a few weeks (or more?) ago when an employee told someone they couldn't eat inside a restaurant, I think that the abuse is just a mild example of what could happen.  I would be very fearful of being an "enforcer" and I make a point to thank those that say something to the offenders.

Incidentally, I am learning that "asymptomatic" is one of the more difficult words for me to type:)

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I've spent the last 3 days in SoCal and have played at Pala, Sycuan and Harrah's SoCal.  All three casinos "require" wearing of masks.  Patron compliance is not great. All three casinos still offer beverage service and allow smoking so I'm not sure how they expect compliance anyhow.  Casino employees and security do make occasional rounds where they ask patrons to put on their masks.  I do not envy them as I've seen several suffer verbal abuse and major attitude from customers.  Many people wear the masks over their mouth but not over their nose.  Wearing the mask only over the chin is another common technique.  If I understand correctly, masks will be encouraged but not required in Nevada casinos so I would anticipate low usage.  I've also noticed a surprisingly high amount of customers in casinos that appear to be vulnerable populations for COVID-19.

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Re: [vpFREE] Masks in Casinos

 

I thank your son and all frontline people for their service. If these folks (police, EMT,.hospital workers)  want me to wear a mask or stay 6 feet apart.or stay home I will honor them and help keep them safe by complying.

On Sunday, May 31, 2020, 03:13:37 PM PDT, ken orgera keno60@hotmail.com [vpFREE] <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Exactly!


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Exactly.  What will happen in places where large crowds are (or really anywhere), is the people wearing masks will be confronting people without (aka public shaming).  I've seen it happen, time and time again.  In most instances, the "offender" either puts one on properly (over the mouth AND nose) or says something offensive and leaves the area (either is a win-win for us mask-wearing patrons).

I have several friends who have died of this virus, alone, without family by their side.  My son is a physician in a hospital.  It is not an easy death to watch.  It tears him up and weighs heavily on his heart.  Wear a mask.  Help your fellow man (or woman).  Is that too much to ask?



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Well said. Exactly my sentiment. 

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 7:33 PM Barry Glazer b.glazer@att.net [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

My personal observations in locales other than casinos (which I'm still avoiding for now) is that non-vulnerable (whatever that REALLY means) patrons are the ones without masks (I'll say it:  young people).  My particular concern is that they are, in my opinion, the most likely to spend time in large groups and close proximity to others, and if exposed, are the most likely to be in public as a "positive" but asymptomatic, thus high risk for spread of virus.  I don't know if they don't "get it" that the masks are not to protect themselves (if that were the case, I wouldn't care so much if they chose not to protect themselves) but are to protect others if they happen to be positive, and especially asymptomatic positive.  Either they don't know, or perhaps they really don't care if they expose others to disease, which is kind of sad and scary at the same time.  Or perhaps some of them think it is a hoax.  Who knows -- but we tend to steer very wide when we encounter no-mask persons in public, and to get out of the store or other locale pretty quickly - even quicker when the employees are maskless, or as described, "wearing" a mask on their chin.

With that shooting a few weeks (or more?) ago when an employee told someone they couldn't eat inside a restaurant, I think that the abuse is just a mild example of what could happen.  I would be very fearful of being an "enforcer" and I make a point to thank those that say something to the offenders.

Incidentally, I am learning that "asymptomatic" is one of the more difficult words for me to type:)

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I've spent the last 3 days in SoCal and have played at Pala, Sycuan and Harrah's SoCal.  All three casinos "require" wearing of masks.  Patron compliance is not great. All three casinos still offer beverage service and allow smoking so I'm not sure how they expect compliance anyhow.  Casino employees and security do make occasional rounds where they ask patrons to put on their masks.  I do not envy them as I've seen several suffer verbal abuse and major attitude from customers.  Many people wear the masks over their mouth but not over their nose.  Wearing the mask only over the chin is another common technique.  If I understand correctly, masks will be encouraged but not required in Nevada casinos so I would anticipate low usage.  I've also noticed a surprisingly high amount of customers in casinos that appear to be vulnerable populations for COVID-19.

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Re: [vpFREE] Masks in Casinos

 

Best wishes for a great trip!

We're booked for a N. Nev trip next weekend.  Still haven't committed to it yet (still waiting on some details to gel ... it's fortunate that airline change fees are waived).
On the dining front, we pretty much look to do most or all casual as take-out/room service and dine in our room.  For fine dining, we'll likely chance dispensing with a mask (with modest regret). 


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My husband and I (both in early 70's) Have a trip to LV upcoming in late June. We will be in casinos and we do plan to wear either our mask or a full face shield. We will not wear either outside and of course not while eating in restaurants.

Pat McCauley

On May 31, 2020, at 6:13 PM, ken orgera keno60@hotmail.com [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  
Exactly!


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Exactly.  What will happen in places where large crowds are (or really anywhere), is the people wearing masks will be confronting people without (aka public shaming).  I've seen it happen, time and time again.  In most instances, the "offender" either puts one on properly (over the mouth AND nose) or says something offensive and leaves the area (either is a win-win for us mask-wearing patrons).

I have several friends who have died of this virus, alone, without family by their side.  My son is a physician in a hospital.  It is not an easy death to watch.  It tears him up and weighs heavily on his heart.  Wear a mask.  Help your fellow man (or woman).  Is that too much to ask?



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Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Masks in Casinos

 
Well said. Exactly my sentiment. 

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 7:33 PM Barry Glazer b.glazer@att.net [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
My personal observations in locales other than casinos (which I'm still avoiding for now) is that non-vulnerable (whatever that REALLY means) patrons are the ones without masks (I'll say it:  young people).  My particular concern is that they are, in my opinion, the most likely to spend time in large groups and close proximity to others, and if exposed, are the most likely to be in public as a "positive" but asymptomatic, thus high risk for spread of virus.  I don't know if they don't "get it" that the masks are not to protect themselves (if that were the case, I wouldn't care so much if they chose not to protect themselves) but are to protect others if they happen to be positive, and especially asymptomatic positive.  Either they don't know, or perhaps they really don't care if they expose others to disease, which is kind of sad and scary at the same time.  Or perhaps some of them think it is a hoax.  Who knows -- but we tend to steer very wide when we encounter no-mask persons in public, and to get out of the store or other locale pretty quickly - even quicker when the employees are maskless, or as described, "wearing" a mask on their chin.

With that shooting a few weeks (or more?) ago when an employee told someone they couldn't eat inside a restaurant, I think that the abuse is just a mild example of what could happen.  I would be very fearful of being an "enforcer" and I make a point to thank those that say something to the offenders.

Incidentally, I am learning that "asymptomatic" is one of the more difficult words for me to type:)

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I've spent the last 3 days in SoCal and have played at Pala, Sycuan and Harrah's SoCal.  All three casinos "require" wearing of masks.  Patron compliance is not great. All three casinos still offer beverage service and allow smoking so I'm not sure how they expect compliance anyhow.  Casino employees and security do make occasional rounds where they ask patrons to put on their masks.  I do not envy them as I've seen several suffer verbal abuse and major attitude from customers.  Many people wear the masks over their mouth but not over their nose.  Wearing the mask only over the chin is another common technique.  If I understand correctly, masks will be encouraged but not required in Nevada casinos so I would anticipate low usage.  I've also noticed a surprisingly high amount of customers in casinos that appear to be vulnerable populations for COVID-19.

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Re: [vpFREE] Masks in Casinos

 

My husband and I (both in early 70's) Have a trip to LV upcoming in late June. We will be in casinos and we do plan to wear either our mask or a full face shield. We will not wear either outside and of course not while eating in restaurants.


Pat McCauley

On May 31, 2020, at 6:13 PM, ken orgera keno60@hotmail.com [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Exactly!


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Exactly.  What will happen in places where large crowds are (or really anywhere), is the people wearing masks will be confronting people without (aka public shaming).  I've seen it happen, time and time again.  In most instances, the "offender" either puts one on properly (over the mouth AND nose) or says something offensive and leaves the area (either is a win-win for us mask-wearing patrons).

I have several friends who have died of this virus, alone, without family by their side.  My son is a physician in a hospital.  It is not an easy death to watch.  It tears him up and weighs heavily on his heart.  Wear a mask.  Help your fellow man (or woman).  Is that too much to ask?



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


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Date: 5/30/20 11:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Masks in Casinos

 

Well said. Exactly my sentiment. 

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 7:33 PM Barry Glazer b.glazer@att.net [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

My personal observations in locales other than casinos (which I'm still avoiding for now) is that non-vulnerable (whatever that REALLY means) patrons are the ones without masks (I'll say it:  young people).  My particular concern is that they are, in my opinion, the most likely to spend time in large groups and close proximity to others, and if exposed, are the most likely to be in public as a "positive" but asymptomatic, thus high risk for spread of virus.  I don't know if they don't "get it" that the masks are not to protect themselves (if that were the case, I wouldn't care so much if they chose not to protect themselves) but are to protect others if they happen to be positive, and especially asymptomatic positive.  Either they don't know, or perhaps they really don't care if they expose others to disease, which is kind of sad and scary at the same time.  Or perhaps some of them think it is a hoax.  Who knows -- but we tend to steer very wide when we encounter no-mask persons in public, and to get out of the store or other locale pretty quickly - even quicker when the employees are maskless, or as described, "wearing" a mask on their chin.

With that shooting a few weeks (or more?) ago when an employee told someone they couldn't eat inside a restaurant, I think that the abuse is just a mild example of what could happen.  I would be very fearful of being an "enforcer" and I make a point to thank those that say something to the offenders.

Incidentally, I am learning that "asymptomatic" is one of the more difficult words for me to type:)

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I've spent the last 3 days in SoCal and have played at Pala, Sycuan and Harrah's SoCal.  All three casinos "require" wearing of masks.  Patron compliance is not great. All three casinos still offer beverage service and allow smoking so I'm not sure how they expect compliance anyhow.  Casino employees and security do make occasional rounds where they ask patrons to put on their masks.  I do not envy them as I've seen several suffer verbal abuse and major attitude from customers.  Many people wear the masks over their mouth but not over their nose.  Wearing the mask only over the chin is another common technique.  If I understand correctly, masks will be encouraged but not required in Nevada casinos so I would anticipate low usage.  I've also noticed a surprisingly high amount of customers in casinos that appear to be vulnerable populations for COVID-19.

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Exactly.  What will happen in places where large crowds are (or really anywhere), is the people wearing masks will be confronting people without (aka public shaming).  I've seen it happen, time and time again.  In most instances, the "offender" either puts one on properly (over the mouth AND nose) or says something offensive and leaves the area (either is a win-win for us mask-wearing patrons).

I have several friends who have died of this virus, alone, without family by their side.  My son is a physician in a hospital.  It is not an easy death to watch.  It tears him up and weighs heavily on his heart.  Wear a mask.  Help your fellow man (or woman).  Is that too much to ask?



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


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Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Masks in Casinos

 

Well said. Exactly my sentiment. 

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 7:33 PM Barry Glazer b.glazer@att.net [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

My personal observations in locales other than casinos (which I'm still avoiding for now) is that non-vulnerable (whatever that REALLY means) patrons are the ones without masks (I'll say it:  young people).  My particular concern is that they are, in my opinion, the most likely to spend time in large groups and close proximity to others, and if exposed, are the most likely to be in public as a "positive" but asymptomatic, thus high risk for spread of virus.  I don't know if they don't "get it" that the masks are not to protect themselves (if that were the case, I wouldn't care so much if they chose not to protect themselves) but are to protect others if they happen to be positive, and especially asymptomatic positive.  Either they don't know, or perhaps they really don't care if they expose others to disease, which is kind of sad and scary at the same time.  Or perhaps some of them think it is a hoax.  Who knows -- but we tend to steer very wide when we encounter no-mask persons in public, and to get out of the store or other locale pretty quickly - even quicker when the employees are maskless, or as described, "wearing" a mask on their chin.

With that shooting a few weeks (or more?) ago when an employee told someone they couldn't eat inside a restaurant, I think that the abuse is just a mild example of what could happen.  I would be very fearful of being an "enforcer" and I make a point to thank those that say something to the offenders.

Incidentally, I am learning that "asymptomatic" is one of the more difficult words for me to type:)

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On Saturday, May 30, 2020, 07:41:23 PM EDT, Vegasvpplayer vegasvpplayer@gmail.com [vpFREE] <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I've spent the last 3 days in SoCal and have played at Pala, Sycuan and Harrah's SoCal.  All three casinos "require" wearing of masks.  Patron compliance is not great. All three casinos still offer beverage service and allow smoking so I'm not sure how they expect compliance anyhow.  Casino employees and security do make occasional rounds where they ask patrons to put on their masks.  I do not envy them as I've seen several suffer verbal abuse and major attitude from customers.  Many people wear the masks over their mouth but not over their nose.  Wearing the mask only over the chin is another common technique.  If I understand correctly, masks will be encouraged but not required in Nevada casinos so I would anticipate low usage.  I've also noticed a surprisingly high amount of customers in casinos that appear to be vulnerable populations for COVID-19.

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