[vpFREE] Re: A "winning" moment

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@...> wrote:
> We checked out the TP Jacks mid-floor and discovered a $800 ticket sticking out of one of machines. Trust me when I say the temptation to use it to salve the loss was hot on our minds

How is this a "winning" moment? Check out this video of a homeless man in PA who returned about $1,500 immediately. That homelessman had no temptation at all since he knew it could be someone's "rent" money (notice the irony).

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=7967738

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Coast Connection Today

 

----- King Fish <vpkingfish@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Tom Robertson <007@embarqmail.com> wrote:

>

> > How do you know that's not true?

>

> Hanlon's razor.

>Is that Occam's older brother?

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Coast Connection Today

 

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Tom Robertson <007@embarqmail.com> wrote:

> How do you know that's not true?

Hanlon's razor.

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[vpFREE] Re: Coast Connection Today

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Tom Robertson <007@...> wrote:
>
They may know their business better than you do. What if, excluding the factor of 86ing anyone, the optimal policy for the Suncoast is to occasionally offer 10x point coupons? The advantage play will cost them, but the "good" business it brings in more than compensates for it. And what if, in addition to that policy, 86ing advantage players makes it even more profitable? How do you know that's not true? They might not have been surprised.
>
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So how is the AP to handle situations like this in the future? I'm only a quarter to dollar player and doubt if I'll ever be a $5 player. But I'm wondering, for the sake of the big players, what should they do? Should they refrain from playing something that looks "too good"? Or stand back while someone else tests the water first?

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Coast Connection Today

 

(I hope this is formatted better than the last one I just sent)

----- King Fish <vpkingfish@gmail.com> wrote:
> And apparently, they're just as surprised by what happens as they were
> the last time. So they go up to people playing the machines, tap them
> on the shoulder and have security guards read them the trespass act
> and escort them off the property.

> HEY MORONS! IF YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING TO PLAY WITH 10X POINTS,
> STOP INVITING THEM WITH COUPONS, ADS, STREET-SIDE SIGNS AND MAILERS.

> Stupid fucktards. How do you still have a job?
They may know their business better than you do. What if, excluding the
factor of 86ing anyone, the optimal policy for the Suncoast is to
occasionally offer 10x point coupons? The advantage play will cost
them, but the "good" business it brings in more than compensates for it.
And what if, in addition to that policy, 86ing advantage players makes
it even more profitable? How do you know that's not true? They might
not have been surprised.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Coast Connection Today

 

----- King Fish <vpkingfish@gmail.com> wrote:
> And apparently, they're just as surprised by what happens as they were
> the last time. So they go up to people playing the machines, tap them
> on the shoulder and have security guards read them the trespass act
> and escort them off the property.

> HEY MORONS! IF YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING TO PLAY WITH 10X POINTS,
> STOP INVITING THEM WITH COUPONS, ADS, STREET-SIDE SIGNS AND MAILERS.

> Stupid fucktards. How do you still have a job?They may know their business better than you do. What if, excluding the factor of 86ing anyone, the optimal policy for the Suncoast is to occasionally offer 10x point coupons? The advantage play will cost them, but the "good" business it brings in more than compensates for it. And what if, in addition to that policy, 86ing advantage players makes it even more profitable? How do you know that's not true? They might not have been surprised.

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[vpFREE] Re: people 86ed at suncoast?

 

So many casinos have been cutting off advantage players lately. I wonder if this was Suncoast's way of identifying and eliminating them?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, misscraps@... wrote:
>
> Just wondered, what sort of denomination and amounts were those people
> playing at Suncoast who were 86'd for playing the 10X coupons? Just doesn't
> seem like they would kick out most people for playing coupons they
> published! Maybe someone was overdoing substantially?
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[vpFREE] people 86ed at suncoast?

 

Just wondered, what sort of denomination and amounts were those people
playing at Suncoast who were 86'd for playing the 10X coupons? Just doesn't
seem like they would kick out most people for playing coupons they
published! Maybe someone was overdoing substantially?

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Re: [vpFREE] Freemont Accommodations

I stayed there for a night in December. It was good for a night. I was
about as far away from FSE as you could get (top floor, far corner) and I
could still hear FSE clearly. I did like the location.

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 7:41 AM, a k <andyk711@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> I just got back from a Vegas trip last week and stayed at the Freemont for
> two nights. It's in a great location downtown, the gambling and food is
> very good there, the rooms are clean and the staff friendly. However, the
> rooms are VERY small for me (and I was there myself), and they did not have
> internet access (which I needed for work). Even though I enjoy playing
> there I won't stay there again.
>
> --- On Sat, 2/26/11, PattyW <paw0159@aol.com> wrote:
>
> From: PattyW <paw0159@aol.com>
> Subject: [vpFREE] Freemont Accommodations
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 12:49 PM
>
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> We're heading out to Vegas next week and will take advantage of some free
> rooms at various casinos. I know the Freemont has been there since the
> beginning of time, but wondering about their room accommodations. Since the
> casino itself is horribly dated, should I expect this of the rooms too?
> Should I "be afraid, be very afraid"? Thoughts? How about the Fiesta Rancho?
> I usually stay at the Strat and have found their casino suites quite nice.
>
> Thanks for any helpful input.
>
> Patty
>
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[vpFREE] Re: We Luv Locals

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gofastnismo" <gofastnismo@...> wrote:
>
> GVR has a bank of 3 machines with the same games and pay scales.
>

I found it interesting that one of the game icons at GVR does not match the associated game. The last game icon is "Suited Royal Bonus Poker Deluxe", but pressing that icon takes the player to Double Double Ace and Faces. The other locations have DDAF too, but with the correct icon. I knew the casino could choose from various games and paytables when setting up the machines, but I thought the manufacturer's program could not be altered. What other cause could there be for this disassociation?

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[vpFREE] Re: We Luv Locals

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vegasvpplayer" <vegasvpplayer@...> wrote:
>
> Tonight I saw at both Boulder Station (near the
> sportsbook) and Texas Station (outside the Bingo
> room) a bank of MG/MD slants with "New" signs on
> top. The machines all have 12 games and at a
> quick glance I would say that at the 25c/50c/$1
> denomination all games are in the area of
> 99 - 99.8% return. Among the offerings are
> 9/6 JB, 8/5 BP, 9/6 DDB, 9/7 DB, 9/6 BPD,
> 9/5 SDB, 8/5 Aces Bonus, NSUD, etc. I wouldn't
> be surprised if all Station Casinos don't have
> at least one bank of these machines.

Thanks for this info.

I found these same machines at Red Rock today on four slants between the slot club and sportsbook bar. In addition to the games you listed, they had two more over-99% games, 9/5 TB+ and 9/4/4 BDW.

No sign of $4 coin-in per point on these either.

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[vpFREE] Re: Coast Connection Today

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, King Fish <vpkingfish@...> wrote:
>

>
> To use the SunCoast as an example, they say "Let's have a 10X points
> promotion to celebrate our 10 year anniversary on 10/10/10!" The
> other managers say "Genius!" and there's lots of back slapping.
>
> When the 10X points starts, the normally quiet bartop machines are
> suddenly getting played at the $5 level. There are more W-2Gs than
> usual (straining the floor staff) including some larger ones.
>
> To you and me, this is no surprise. You offer $5 single line at 99.6
> with 1% cashback, you're going to get APs playing it.
>
> To the SunCoast management, this comes as a surprise and within a
> couple hours, they're telling people to leave.
>
> Now you might think the SunCoast managers are morons for not being
> able to predict this. And I would agree with you. If you can't see
> this coming, you're a moron who doesn't belong in casino management.
>
> But what do these rocket scientists do? Put FIVE 10X coupons in the
> coast connection.
>
> And apparently, they're just as surprised by what happens as they were
> the last time. So they go up to people playing the machines, tap them
> on the shoulder and have security guards read them the trespass act
> and escort them off the property.
>
> HEY MORONS! IF YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING TO PLAY WITH 10X POINTS,
> STOP INVITING THEM WITH COUPONS, ADS, STREET-SIDE SIGNS AND MAILERS.
>
> Stupid fucktards. How do you still have a job?
>

Oh so THAT'S what happened. Thanks for clearing that up. I couldn't help but laugh at the way you told that story, it was funny.

I guess I missed the scoop about 10/10/10. You're right, that's pretty clueless.

This reminds me of the Jerry's Nugget fiasco. Sounds like it was really handled poorly.

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[vpFREE] Re: The Secret World of Video Poker Progressives

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:
>
> Of course, your gambling bankroll would have grown the fastest if you started with nickels and moved up (or back down) to keep your rolling bankroll around 3000 bet sizes ($750 on five nickles, $1500 on ten nickels, $2250 on fifteen nickels, $3000 on twenty nickels, $3750 on five quarters, $7500 on ten quarters, $11,250 on fifteen quarters, $15,000 on five dollars). All of these denoms existed in the past, some of them (maybe all) still do today.
>

It's good to know, I'm adequately bankrolled for what I presently play. As far as the dollar FPDW play, I should have more correctly expressed my bankroll -- which was about $500 at the time. That's why I played at the nickel level at the beginning.

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[vpFREE] Re: attaching w2Gs to return

 

I used to fill in the TurboTax W-2G worksheet for each and every one I'd received. The past two years, I've filled in one and only one per casino. For the casinos from which I received more than one, I created a "summary" W-2G. IRS processed both returns without even a whimper.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Coast Connection Today

 

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:37 AM, bobbartop <bobbartop@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I think what is far more important than trying to battle with the suits and the
> casinos on something like this, is trying to understand what they are thinking.

To use the SunCoast as an example, they say "Let's have a 10X points
promotion to celebrate our 10 year anniversary on 10/10/10!" The
other managers say "Genius!" and there's lots of back slapping.

When the 10X points starts, the normally quiet bartop machines are
suddenly getting played at the $5 level. There are more W-2Gs than
usual (straining the floor staff) including some larger ones.

To you and me, this is no surprise. You offer $5 single line at 99.6
with 1% cashback, you're going to get APs playing it.

To the SunCoast management, this comes as a surprise and within a
couple hours, they're telling people to leave.

Now you might think the SunCoast managers are morons for not being
able to predict this. And I would agree with you. If you can't see
this coming, you're a moron who doesn't belong in casino management.

But what do these rocket scientists do? Put FIVE 10X coupons in the
coast connection.

And apparently, they're just as surprised by what happens as they were
the last time. So they go up to people playing the machines, tap them
on the shoulder and have security guards read them the trespass act
and escort them off the property.

HEY MORONS! IF YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING TO PLAY WITH 10X POINTS,
STOP INVITING THEM WITH COUPONS, ADS, STREET-SIDE SIGNS AND MAILERS.

Stupid fucktards. How do you still have a job?

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