[vpFREE] Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 17 SEP 2013

 

Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 17 SEP 2013

A Royal Flush Penalty

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2013/0917.cfm

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[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 17 SEP 2013

 

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 17 SEP 2013

Technical Issues

http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=3164

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On 9/17/2013 1:35 PM, nightoftheiguana2000@yahoo.com wrote:
 

 If you gamble in NJ, you're luckier, in that state casinos are not allowed to bar law abiding citizens and so far it is still not a crime to hit a royal flush, however NJ casinos can still take action against royal flush hitters, such as reducing promotions, exclusion from promotions, and so on, and trust me, take action they will.

"Crime" is not the right word, even outside New Jersey. "Nuisance" serves much better.



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RE: [vpFREE] NCL Pearl cruise to Alaska

 

Great post.  i took an Alaskan cruise with my son and remember a lot of the things you wrote about!!


To: vpfree@yahoogroups.com
From: keno60@hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:17:40 -0500
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] NCL Pearl cruise to Alaska

 

Thank you for the wonderful post.!
 

To: harrahscasinos@yahoogroups.com; vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: misscraps@aol.com
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:21:32 -0700
Subject: [vpFREE] NCL Pearl cruise to Alaska

 
First I'd like to mention that I find most of the Harrahs offers for "complimentary" or "free" cruises very deceptive. They should advertise them as discounted cruises, but I don't think paying half price is FREE! For this cruise we paid $900 for two people for a balcony cabin plus tips, which is just about half what we would have paid for the same cruise through Travelocity. For some cruises the discounts are steeper, but they are still discounts. NCL certificates for most cruises with balconies run $300 per person plus tips and up. Single people are the ones who get the best discounts, because with a certificate they pay for only one person, but buying direct would mean they have to pay for two people even if traveling alone.

If you do want to go on an NCL cruise, you can't do any better than the Pearl cruise from Seattle to the Inside Passage of Alaska. The scenery is spectacular for the entire voyage. If you have good weather, as we did, you an see the snow covered mountains and lovely waterways, with little rain. Rain is to be expected, but lately Alaska has had unusually dry weather, so we lucked out with little rain. We also saw some wildlife from the ship -- orca and humpback whales, seals, and porpoises.

The ship is well designed, and unlike newer ships like the Breakaway and Epic, handicapped people will have no difficulty using wheelchairs or scooters in the hallways. There is a beautiful lounge in the bow of the ship which is a great place to view the scenery any day. There was also a lot of very good entertainment onboard, and some was even during the day on sea days, giving repeat ship goers more to do. They have a couple of wildlife/Alaska lectures, and rangers get onboard the ship when it's inside Glacier Bay to answer questions and give commentary on the bay and all the glaciers you pass. The good design of the ship also meant there was a deck that ran all the way around the ship for walkers (unlike newer NCL vessels that left out this feature).

The main "Broadway style" shows include very good Four Seasons tribute "Oh What a Night" and a Broadway show revue. I was impressed by some of the other entertainers onboard, which included 3 different pianists (one a comedian), a duo of singers, a excellent juggler/comedian, a small band with singers, and more. The second city troupe is also onboard for some improv shows, but since I've been on several NCL vessels I'm getting very tired of them.

Some of the drawbacks with the Pearl are those that seem endemic to all the NCL line. The food quality in the main dining room is definitely declining, which sends more people to the specialty restaurants whose prices are increasing. We did have a great meal at Cagney's steakhouse, but it bothers me to have to pay $30 per person more for a good meal. The Pearl at least tried a little in the food department by having a Alaska bake night in the buffet with Alaskan specialties and a chocolate buffet (10 pm though, a bit late to eat the goodies). We noticed that the steaks in the main dining room are no longer Black Angus, and they were bad. Even the salmon seemed poorer in quality than when we took the same voyage on the same ship several years ago. The buffet was average quality, best at breakfast (which thank goodness still has the fantastic pecan buns). The sit down lunch had the same menu every day, with some items not that great (our advice, order several things, something will be good). We liked the food in the 24 hour (free) Blue Lagoon Cafe, but service was slow at times (one friend complained about it). Service in the sit down restaurants also was very slow, even if you asked for faster service. It was so glacial one night in the Indigo (free main dining room), I complained to the matre de who gave everyone at our table a free drink, and cleaned off plates herself.

Another drawback, NCL has too many "seminars" which are just excuses to sell you stuff -- diamond seminars to sell diamonds, skin care to sell facials and products, foot seminars to sell arch supports. They need more shows and lectures onboard. Tv is limited to only 5-10 channels. Two are movie channels, but you never or rarely see a schedule of what movies will be shown when. They do show some movies on the giant screen, but seating is limited. Some of the game shows like "the not so newlywed" game are also shown again on tv, and they should do more of that. Don't buy cards for Deal or No Deal show. I finally got to see what this was, and it turns out that unless u are chosen to go onstage, you are probably going to end up with $0 winnings for your $20 card. I didn't realize how this was done and bought three cards ($60), and ended up winning $3! I complained to the person who ran this because her explanation was very poor, and she was super nice, and sent me a bottle of wine (value $12).... But really this is even worse than bingo! (though maybe somewhat entertaining to watch if you aren't playing).

Like the Breakaway, it does pay to complain if you have complaints, and you probably will! The best bet is to try to complain to senior management, don't just toss a suggestion into the box. Complain immediately, and maybe more than once, and you might get a bottle of wine, strawberries sent to your room, or discount. Be nice, but be adamant. And send those letters to NCL after the cruise (for whatever good it might do).

Also, unlike the Breakaway, where I FROZE because the ship was kept too cold, I merely was very COLD in the Pearl. Why are they keeping these ships so cold! From now on if I travel on NCL, I will bring three layers to wear inside, just in case! (even in August in the Caribbean)

The stewards were good, keeping the room clean, and sometimes surprising us with those towel animals. The ship ran smoothly, with a good stabilizer and no seasickness problems. The cruise director was not very good, with old jokes, and I actually wondered how this guy got the job.

The casino is smaller than on Breakaway or Epic, which actually is good news, because it is kept to one room by itself, so smokers don't pollute huge areas. Pay tables just as bad as on other ships, and who knows if those continually shuffled blackjack decks were actually gaffed from the start because u never see the cards spread out. I played anyway (addicted), and ran up about 5000 points on the NCL's bad player system. This put me at the second level HOT, but the host wouldn't give me the free dinner for two, saying I only get it on the voyage AFTER I turned Hot! But I ended up playing so much they did offer me a dinner for four people with wine. They also offered me a stingy $160 in comps, which I argued about, because I'd received over $200 on the Breakaway with less play and less losses. So they bumped it up to a still stingy $200.

We have been to Alaska several times before, so have done a lot of sightseeing in the ports. This time in Skagway we took an excursion offered online by Frontier for a Yukon Adventure to Carcross and saved over $30 per person from a similar shore excursion offered by the ship. It was great, and I recommend it highly over any White Horse train excursion or other Skagway tour. The scenery was great, the tour guide full of interesting stories, and at Carcross you visit a very interesting place with a decent lunch, sled dog camp, and interesting museum with stuffed animals and a live petting zoo.

In Juneau we took the ship offered Whale Quest and Orca Point Lodge and had some great views of the glaciers from the boat as well as close encounters with humpback whales -- $190 per person. While the salmon bake at the lodge was only so so, one advantage of this tour over some of the cheaper priced whale watching tours was that the boat was smaller, and we got quite close to humpbacks almost as big as the boat. They circled us while we circled them, very good tour. In Ketchikan the tour to do is Flightseeing, but I'd done that before, so we walked (actually I was in my scooter and the town is scooter friendly) around the town and went to see the salmon ladder and recreated red light district (now quaint shops and restaurants) by the creek that runs through town. Unlike on other trips where there was not a salmon to be seen, on this trip (aug 25) the salmon were spawning and jumping and gathering...and dying on rocks.... Fascinating! In beautiful Victoria BC, the ship docks quite late (6 pm), but there is time to see the wonderful Buchart Gardens on your trip. I'd been there before though, so I took an interesting tour of the city. Actually you could walk to the center of town, about a 30 minute walk though. We even saw deer who wander the streets of Victoria.

I recommend the Glacier Bay itinerary to Alaska over the Sawyer Glacier, and the NCL Pearl over the Star. If you really want to see Alaska though, the best trip is to go all the way North to Seward and then take a land tour to Fairbanks and Denali.

My next NCL cruise -- Dec. 1 from New Orleans to the Caribbean....combining it with my 7 star yearly trip so the airfare is free. If anyone else will be on this voyage, email me and let's meet.



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RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [vpFREE] RE: Re: Fascinating new poker machine

 

Bruce asked: "How does one not be 'aggressive' towards hitting royal flushes?"

Modify your draw strategy? You'd be "taking a dive" on some ev, but it might actually be Kelly Optimal for your bankroll size or you might get back more ev some other way, which is the usual reason for "taking a dive". "Taking a dive" could be a tactical mistake, but strategically it might be the more game theory optimal choice.




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How does one not be    'aggressive' towards hitting royal flushes?


-------- Original message --------
From: nightoftheiguana2000@...
Date: 09/17/2013 10:35 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: RE: Re: [vpFREE] RE: Re: Fascinating new poker machine


 

I may have the facts wrong, it wouldn't be the first time, if so I apologize in advance, but if you want another example of someone who's been barred from playing video poker, my understanding is that Bob Dancer has been permanently barred from all MGM properties for life and into the afterlife because his ex-wife had the audacity to hit one royal on a $100 machine. Even though Bob is now legally divorced, his record is still tainted by the actions of his former wife, in the eyes of the all powerful MGM. There is a lesson here, don't be so aggressive trying to hit royal flushes in video poker, casinos don't like to see royal flushes and many will take negative action against those who hit that particular hand, as well as relatives, family members, perceived team members, etc. If you gamble in NJ, you're luckier, in that state casinos are not allowed to bar law abiding citizens and so far it is still not a crime to hit a royal flush, however NJ casinos can still take action against royal flush hitters, such as reducing promotions, exclusion from promotions, and so on, and trust me, take action they will.






--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Just a clarification from Mr. Brodie's blog....He probably was not banned for
"too many" royals in video poker. Maybe the collective amount was "too much".

He mentioned only 4 royals, but they were big ones. There are many player who
might have gotten 4 royals in only one weekend, just not on $25 machines. There must be more to the story than "too many" royals.

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

MHS asked: "Where are skillful players banned from any video poker machiens?"


It happens all the time outside of NJ. Microsoft Billionaire Richard Brodie was banned from all Harrahs properties, including convention centers, and the WSOP for playing video poker and hitting too many royal flushes:


http://pokernation.blogspot.com/2007/06/richard-brodie-banned-from-harrahs.html 



Harrahs later realized that this was total stupidity and poor sportsmanship on their part, and they reversed the ban, for Richard Brodie. But casinos outside of NJ continue to abuse their powers. Attorney Bob Nersesian was able to get a court in North Las Vegas to agree the practice of barring customers not breaking any laws was illegal in that jurisdiction, it's just a matter of time before the courts rule the same for the entire state.




--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Those few who are winning against the machine have apparently found
> flaws in some aspect of the computer strategy, and the machine is not
> allowed to "improve" its play in recognition of those flaws as a cause
> of losing to the player. However, it is likely that two things will
> happen: future iterations of the machine, if it catches on, will have
> improved strategy -- and as we know, skillful players may be
> prohibited from playing the game, just as they are often barred from
> blackjack and advantage-play video poker.
Where are skillful players banned from any video poker machiens?

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Re: RE: RE: Re: [vpFREE] RE: Re: Fascinating new poker machine

 

Really?

Stop hitting Royals?

 


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:35 AM, <nightoftheiguana2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

I may have the facts wrong, it wouldn't be the first time, if so I apologize in advance, but if you want another example of someone who's been barred from playing video poker, my understanding is that Bob Dancer has been permanently barred from all MGM properties for life and into the afterlife because his ex-wife had the audacity to hit one royal on a $100 machine. Even though Bob is now legally divorced, his record is still tainted by the actions of his former wife, in the eyes of the all powerful MGM. There is a lesson here, don't be so aggressive trying to hit royal flushes in video poker, casinos don't like to see royal flushes and many will take negative action against those who hit that particular hand, as well as relatives, family members, perceived team members, etc. If you gamble in NJ, you're luckier, in that state casinos are not allowed to bar law abiding citizens and so far it is still not a crime to hit a royal flush, however NJ casinos can still take action against royal flush hitters, such as reducing promotions, exclusion from promotions, and so on, and trust me, take action they will.






--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Just a clarification from Mr. Brodie's blog....He probably was not banned for
"too many" royals in video poker. Maybe the collective amount was "too much".

He mentioned only 4 royals, but they were big ones. There are many player who
might have gotten 4 royals in only one weekend, just not on $25 machines. There must be more to the story than "too many" royals.

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

MHS asked: "Where are skillful players banned from any video poker machiens?"


It happens all the time outside of NJ. Microsoft Billionaire Richard Brodie was banned from all Harrahs properties, including convention centers, and the WSOP for playing video poker and hitting too many royal flushes:


http://pokernation.blogspot.com/2007/06/richard-brodie-banned-from-harrahs.html 



Harrahs later realized that this was total stupidity and poor sportsmanship on their part, and they reversed the ban, for Richard Brodie. But casinos outside of NJ continue to abuse their powers. Attorney Bob Nersesian was able to get a court in North Las Vegas to agree the practice of barring customers not breaking any laws was illegal in that jurisdiction, it's just a matter of time before the courts rule the same for the entire state.




--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Those few who are winning against the machine have apparently found
> flaws in some aspect of the computer strategy, and the machine is not
> allowed to "improve" its play in recognition of those flaws as a cause
> of losing to the player. However, it is likely that two things will
> happen: future iterations of the machine, if it catches on, will have
> improved strategy -- and as we know, skillful players may be
> prohibited from playing the game, just as they are often barred from
> blackjack and advantage-play video poker.
Where are skillful players banned from any video poker machiens?


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How does one not be    'aggressive' towards hitting royal flushes?


-------- Original message --------
From: nightoftheiguana2000@yahoo.com
Date: 09/17/2013 10:35 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: RE: Re: [vpFREE] RE: Re: Fascinating new poker machine


 

I may have the facts wrong, it wouldn't be the first time, if so I apologize in advance, but if you want another example of someone who's been barred from playing video poker, my understanding is that Bob Dancer has been permanently barred from all MGM properties for life and into the afterlife because his ex-wife had the audacity to hit one royal on a $100 machine. Even though Bob is now legally divorced, his record is still tainted by the actions of his former wife, in the eyes of the all powerful MGM. There is a lesson here, don't be so aggressive trying to hit royal flushes in video poker, casinos don't like to see royal flushes and many will take negative action against those who hit that particular hand, as well as relatives, family members, perceived team members, etc. If you gamble in NJ, you're luckier, in that state casinos are not allowed to bar law abiding citizens and so far it is still not a crime to hit a royal flush, however NJ casinos can still take action against royal flush hitters, such as reducing promotions, exclusion from promotions, and so on, and trust me, take action they will.






--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Just a clarification from Mr. Brodie's blog....He probably was not banned for
"too many" royals in video poker. Maybe the collective amount was "too much".

He mentioned only 4 royals, but they were big ones. There are many player who
might have gotten 4 royals in only one weekend, just not on $25 machines. There must be more to the story than "too many" royals.

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

MHS asked: "Where are skillful players banned from any video poker machiens?"


It happens all the time outside of NJ. Microsoft Billionaire Richard Brodie was banned from all Harrahs properties, including convention centers, and the WSOP for playing video poker and hitting too many royal flushes:


http://pokernation.blogspot.com/2007/06/richard-brodie-banned-from-harrahs.html 



Harrahs later realized that this was total stupidity and poor sportsmanship on their part, and they reversed the ban, for Richard Brodie. But casinos outside of NJ continue to abuse their powers. Attorney Bob Nersesian was able to get a court in North Las Vegas to agree the practice of barring customers not breaking any laws was illegal in that jurisdiction, it's just a matter of time before the courts rule the same for the entire state.




--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Those few who are winning against the machine have apparently found
> flaws in some aspect of the computer strategy, and the machine is not
> allowed to "improve" its play in recognition of those flaws as a cause
> of losing to the player. However, it is likely that two things will
> happen: future iterations of the machine, if it catches on, will have
> improved strategy -- and as we know, skillful players may be
> prohibited from playing the game, just as they are often barred from
> blackjack and advantage-play video poker.
Where are skillful players banned from any video poker machiens?

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RE: RE: RE: Re: [vpFREE] RE: Re: Fascinating new poker machine

 

I may have the facts wrong, it wouldn't be the first time, if so I apologize in advance, but if you want another example of someone who's been barred from playing video poker, my understanding is that Bob Dancer has been permanently barred from all MGM properties for life and into the afterlife because his ex-wife had the audacity to hit one royal on a $100 machine. Even though Bob is now legally divorced, his record is still tainted by the actions of his former wife, in the eyes of the all powerful MGM. There is a lesson here, don't be so aggressive trying to hit royal flushes in video poker, casinos don't like to see royal flushes and many will take negative action against those who hit that particular hand, as well as relatives, family members, perceived team members, etc. If you gamble in NJ, you're luckier, in that state casinos are not allowed to bar law abiding citizens and so far it is still not a crime to hit a royal flush, however NJ casinos can still take action against royal flush hitters, such as reducing promotions, exclusion from promotions, and so on, and trust me, take action they will.






--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Just a clarification from Mr. Brodie's blog....He probably was not banned for
"too many" royals in video poker. Maybe the collective amount was "too much".

He mentioned only 4 royals, but they were big ones. There are many player who
might have gotten 4 royals in only one weekend, just not on $25 machines. There must be more to the story than "too many" royals.

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

MHS asked: "Where are skillful players banned from any video poker machiens?"


It happens all the time outside of NJ. Microsoft Billionaire Richard Brodie was banned from all Harrahs properties, including convention centers, and the WSOP for playing video poker and hitting too many royal flushes:


http://pokernation.blogspot.com/2007/06/richard-brodie-banned-from-harrahs.html 



Harrahs later realized that this was total stupidity and poor sportsmanship on their part, and they reversed the ban, for Richard Brodie. But casinos outside of NJ continue to abuse their powers. Attorney Bob Nersesian was able to get a court in North Las Vegas to agree the practice of barring customers not breaking any laws was illegal in that jurisdiction, it's just a matter of time before the courts rule the same for the entire state.




--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Those few who are winning against the machine have apparently found
> flaws in some aspect of the computer strategy, and the machine is not
> allowed to "improve" its play in recognition of those flaws as a cause
> of losing to the player. However, it is likely that two things will
> happen: future iterations of the machine, if it catches on, will have
> improved strategy -- and as we know, skillful players may be
> prohibited from playing the game, just as they are often barred from
> blackjack and advantage-play video poker.
Where are skillful players banned from any video poker machiens?

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Re: [SPAM]Re: ]Re: [vpFREE] What Does this Mean?

 

Thank you, AP, for educating me about the virtual gaming world where I have never trod.  I guess my bricks-and-mortar one just keeps me too busy to explore others!!!!
 
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http://queenofcomps.com/
You can read my blog at
http://jscott.lvablog.com/
 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:42 AM
Subject: [SPAM]Re: ]Re: [vpFREE] What Does this Mean?
 
 

O.K. Here is how the free play sites of this type work.
You earn free play chips or tokens if you will, by logging on every day, by referring friends, or clicking on things around the site. You then use these tokens to play games, such as blackjack and slots.
As you earn more points you get higher levels of status. On some sites you can actually earn things of real value i.e. the myvegas site on facebook that is run by mlife you can actually earn free rooms, meals and shows at MGM properties.
I am quite sure that when they said there would not be any skimming of tokens that they were kidding, and trying to bring a comparson to the old Stardust.  They failed.
 
Regards


A.P.
 
From: Queen of Comps <queenofcomps@cox.net>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:13:20 AM
Subject: ]Re: [vpFREE] What Does this Mean?
 
I wasn't kidding.  I knew all about the Stardust skimming.  But I didn't think the sentence I was quoting was "tongue-in-cheek."  I read it as there was a history of the Stardust "allowing players to 'skim' free-play gaming tokens."  Maybe I am not familiar with online gaming terms – is there such a thing there as "free-play gaming tokens"?
 
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Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler
http://queenofcomps.com/
You can read my blog at
http://jscott.lvablog.com/
 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 7:03 AM
Subject:]Re: [vpFREE] What Does this Mean?
 
 
If you're not kidding, the skim was the money the mob took from the counting rooms to send back east. They skimmed some cream from the casino's profits and therefore never reported the real earnings.
In the article they are saying "tongue in cheek" that nobody will be skimming free play tokens to replicate the old style Stardust.
 
Regards

A.P.
 
From: Queen of Comps <queenofcomps@cox.net>
To: vpFREE <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 8:05:17 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] What Does this Mean?
 
 
In this article it says:  "However, it's uncertain if Win is going to bring back some the casino's more notorious history such as allowing players to "skim" free-play gaming tokens.'
 
I don't remember hearing about this before.  How did that work?
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http://queenofcomps.com/
You can read my blog at
http://jscott.lvablog.com/

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