[vpFREE] Re: Did the .25 three play progressive at the Orleans hit yet?

 

I expect this is the dealt royal on one of the 25c 3 play progressives at the Orleans. These are multigames and most people play the 9/7 DB on them.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "maclarenv12" <ahduff@...> wrote:
>
> what game is this?
>
> what result do you need for the jackpot?

> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <johnplevack@> wrote:
> >
> > Last weekend (1/8) it was up to $44,000 +

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[vpFREE] Re: Best Randomness Analogy Contest

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:
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> Fair enough, plus they got the meter, which was probably 2%. My >understanding was that Tuna was the first to figure out this play, but >I could be wrong.
>
>
The legend is that Tuna learned vp progressives from a guy they called Kenny the Klone, a brilliant mathmatician but compulsive gambler, who wound up being the math proofreader for Sklansky and Malmuth's 2+2 Publishing.

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[vpFREE] Re: Lake Tahoe

 

I honestly doubt there's still any decent vP in SouthShore...I haven't been there in about a year, but last year it was going more towards "resort" than "gambling"...

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John J. Canney" <jcanney@...> wrote:
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> Next month I am going to Harrahs Lake Tahoe. I have not been there in appox
> 10 years. I would appreciate any input on dining, activities, tips etc. from
> the groups' knowledge. Though I will probably make the DIAD (assuming that
> you can at that property on the $ triple plays), I currently hold no status
> in the rewards program as I had sworn Harrahs off for the last few years.
> Thanks.
>
> John
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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[vpFREE] Lake Tahoe

 

Next month I am going to Harrahs Lake Tahoe. I have not been there in appox
10 years. I would appreciate any input on dining, activities, tips etc. from
the groups' knowledge. Though I will probably make the DIAD (assuming that
you can at that property on the $ triple plays), I currently hold no status
in the rewards program as I had sworn Harrahs off for the last few years.
Thanks.

John

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[vpFREE] Re: Is the Palms going to be taken over by Caesars Entertainment Corp.?

 


Marc thank you for the link. Enjoy the play there while it last. :(
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[vpFREE] Re: Is the Palms going to be taken over by Caesars Entertainment Corp.?

 
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RE: [vpFREE] Is the Palms going to be taken over by Caesars Entertainment Corp.?

Didn't one of Harrah's owners (Apollo I thought) buy a sizeable chunk of Palms' debt about this time last year, right around the PH takover? Seems like I remember reading about an indignant and defiant George Maloof shooting down notions that Harrah's was positioning itself to gobble the Palms up like PH.


To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: cb_ray@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 19:41:37 +0000
Subject: [vpFREE] Is the Palms going to be taken over by Caesars Entertainment Corp.?


Last night at Harrah's I was talking with someone with Caesars Entertainment Corp. about the rumor that I heard about them wanting to move the WSOP because they were trying to sell the Rio. I was told no they are looking at moving WSOP to PH so they would have more room. Then the kicker came out of my sources mouth. "Why would Caesars sell the Rio? Apollo Management (part owners of Caesars) is buying up the Palms debt so Caesars can take them over like they did with PH."

Can anyone in the know confirm this?

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[vpFREE] Is the Palms going to be taken over by Caesars Entertainment Corp.?

 

Last night at Harrah's I was talking with someone with Caesars Entertainment Corp. about the rumor that I heard about them wanting to move the WSOP because they were trying to sell the Rio. I was told no they are looking at moving WSOP to PH so they would have more room. Then the kicker came out of my sources mouth. "Why would Caesars sell the Rio? Apollo Management (part owners of Caesars) is buying up the Palms debt so Caesars can take them over like they did with PH."

Can anyone in the know confirm this?

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[vpFREE] Re: Best Randomness Analogy Contest

 

Fair enough, plus they got the meter, which was probably 2%. My understanding was that Tuna was the first to figure out this play, but I could be wrong.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, jacobs <jacobs@...> wrote:
>
> Starting with a minimum of $2500 would put the EV at +0.82% minimum,
> so expectation after 50 million hands would be a win of $512,000. Thus,
> by your own SD number, losing would be a -5 SD event. Sounds to me
> like a healthy win supports the claim that the game was fair.
>
> On Tuesday 18 January 2011 02:13:58 am you wrote:
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@> wrote:
> > > After about our 50,000,000 hand as a team, we became convinced VP
> > > machines were honest and random.
> >
> > It's always useful to pencil out some numbers. I can only guess at what
> you
> > were doing, so feel free to correct if you'd like. Let's say your team was
> > mostly playing 8/5 jacks quarter progressives with a start level of $2500
> > on the royal. Since you had a team and played till it hit, the meter
> > movement was like cash back to you and didn't add to your variance.
> But
> > the variance of the game itself is about 130. After 50 million hands, the
> > 2SD range would be plus or minus about $200,000. You would expect to
> be
> > somewhere in that range some 95% of the time, but it would be unusual
> (and
> > suspect) to hit the average exactly.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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[vpFREE] Re: Best Randomness Analogy Contest

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vp_wiz" <harry.porter@...> wrote:
> But do you really see it as instrumental in how Dancer "walked away from MGM a big winner"? (so long as a positive play was on the table)

From my understanding of the situation, they were in the short term. Shirley got lucky, she and Bob didn't have time to grind out an edge. Luck and edge were both present of course, but my understanding was that luck was dominant. In addition it was silly for MGM to 86 them when all they needed to do was change the situation, which I think they did anyway. If they were smart about it they could have gotten marketing value: "Play at the casino where Bob and Shirley won a million dollars!", etc., instead of just looking like sore losers.

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[vpFREE] Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 18 JAN 2011

 

Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 18 JAN 2011

"Apples and Oranges"

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2011/0118.cfm

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[vpFREE] LVA Question of the Day - 18 JAN 2011

 

LVA Question of the Day - 18 JAN 2011

Q: What happened to Ellis Island on the Top Ten list? I
noticed that it was not on the list for the last couple of
months. We have had dinner there on every trip and always
enjoyed the meal.

Read the answer here:

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/qod.cfm

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Best Randomness Analogy Contest

 

Starting with a minimum of $2500 would put the EV at +0.82% minimum,
so expectation after 50 million hands would be a win of $512,000. Thus,
by your own SD number, losing would be a -5 SD event. Sounds to me
like a healthy win supports the claim that the game was fair.

On Tuesday 18 January 2011 02:13:58 am you wrote:
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
> > After about our 50,000,000 hand as a team, we became convinced VP
> > machines were honest and random.
>
> It's always useful to pencil out some numbers. I can only guess at what
you
> were doing, so feel free to correct if you'd like. Let's say your team was
> mostly playing 8/5 jacks quarter progressives with a start level of $2500
> on the royal. Since you had a team and played till it hit, the meter
> movement was like cash back to you and didn't add to your variance.
But
> the variance of the game itself is about 130. After 50 million hands, the
> 2SD range would be plus or minus about $200,000. You would expect to
be
> somewhere in that range some 95% of the time, but it would be unusual
(and
> suspect) to hit the average exactly.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> vpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
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[vpFREE] Re: Best Randomness Analogy Contest

 

nightoftheiguana2000 wrote:
> There's some more tricks involved. For example, if the casino's
> policy is to stop you from playing once you win a certain amount,
> that's generally in your favor. More or less that's how Bob Dancer
> (or actually his wife) walked away (or was escorted away) from the
> MGM a big winner.

I grasp what you suggest here in terms of the general discussion, especially as it pertains to a break-even expectation scenario.

But do you really see it as instrumental in how Dancer "walked away from MGM a big winner"? (so long as a positive play was on the table)

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