[vpFREE] Gambling With An Edge

 


The download for last night's Annie Duke interview isn't working on my site --- and my tech guy won't be able to get to it before Monday.

However, on www.richardmunchkin.com the download appears and is listenable now.

The Annie interview went really well. Her discussion of bad beats provides food for thought for video poker players as well.

Next week's guest will be Bob Nersesian --- a lawyer who defends gamblers who have been mistreated by casinos. His book is "Beat the Players." Munchkin did an interview with him 10 years ago --- and that interview is currently posted on his website --- http://www.richardmunchkin.com/2011/08/bob-nersesian-advocate-for-players.html#more

Bob

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[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 5 AUG 2011

 

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 5 AUG 2011

"Brad´s Gambling Life - Part 14,
The Early Indiana Years"

http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=1416

<a href="http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=1416">
http://jscott.lvablog.com/?p=1416</a>

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[vpFREE] Re: Franknbob progressive gone from M

 

Right you are.

And there is no correlation between my mental state and the error, nor is there any causation between what I say and my thinking.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Darrell Glendenning <darrellg@...> wrote:
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> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Frank <frank@...> wrote:
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> > This tends to be true, but please understand, they did not take out the
> > game you liked, because they were putting in the max-royals progressive.
> > They were taking out the game you liked anyway. Had we not pitched the
> > max-royals progressive to M, your favorite game would simply have been
> > replaced with something else other than the max-royals progressive.
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> > Your are seeing a correlation where there isn't any. The one event did not
> > create the other.
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> > I was next to him when the casino manager was trying to figure out where to
> > put the new progressives and he said (exact words), "Oh we could put them
> > here, we were taking these out anyway."
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> There absolutely is a correlation. One came out and another went in. What
> you meant to say is that the correlation does not imply causation.
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[vpFREE] Re: Huck Seed's $600K royal

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "igtddb" <rgj21@...> wrote:
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> Anyone know if this was, in fact, hit at Aria?

Odds are pretty good that it was. I stopped in there a couple days ago and the prog was down to $400027 (resets at $400000). By the way, it is in the raised area of the high limit room.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Franknbob progressive gone from M

 

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Frank <frank@progressivevp.com> wrote:

> **
>
> This tends to be true, but please understand, they did not take out the
> game you liked, because they were putting in the max-royals progressive.
> They were taking out the game you liked anyway. Had we not pitched the
> max-royals progressive to M, your favorite game would simply have been
> replaced with something else other than the max-royals progressive.
>
> Your are seeing a correlation where there isn't any. The one event did not
> create the other.
>
> I was next to him when the casino manager was trying to figure out where to
> put the new progressives and he said (exact words), "Oh we could put them
> here, we were taking these out anyway."
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There absolutely is a correlation. One came out and another went in. What
you meant to say is that the correlation does not imply causation.

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[vpFREE] Re: Franknbob progressive gone from M

 

This tends to be true, but please understand, they did not take out the game you liked, because they were putting in the max-royals progressive. They were taking out the game you liked anyway. Had we not pitched the max-royals progressive to M, your favorite game would simply have been replaced with something else other than the max-royals progressive.

Your are seeing a correlation where there isn't any. The one event did not create the other.

I was next to him when the casino manager was trying to figure out where to put the new progressives and he said (exact words), "Oh we could put them here, we were taking these out anyway."

I am sharing direct firsthand knowledge.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "the7thwarrior" <Judy@...> wrote:
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> AND THAT IS WHAT I COMPLAINED ABOUT IN THE FIRST PLACE!
> Once a "decent" game is gone it never comes back, even if the replacement game is a bust.
> M needs to look to bring back some more decent multi line games!
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "irdd3000" <irdd@> wrote:
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> > actually the bad news is they didn't put back the aces bonus game where it originally was....
> >
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> > > > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The M max-royals progressive has been permanently removed from M.
> > > > >
> > > > > ~FK
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[vpFREE] Re: Frank grew on me

 

If you left click on the date hyper-link only some browsers can play the file as streaming audio.

The more sure fired way to do it is to "right click" and use the "save as" feature. Then save it to your HD and play it from there. My guess is you are having browser incompatibility issues. All browsers can download the file, but this has to be done with a "right click".

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Hapycro1929 <hapycro1929@...> wrote:
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> Clicked on your hot key and could not find your program.. Sorry  but i did not have a 6th grader to help me.
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> --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Frank <frank@...> wrote:
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> From: Frank <frank@...>
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Frank grew on me
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 3:54 PM
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>  
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> How were you trying to listen?
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Hapycro1929 <hapycro1929@> wrote:
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> > I could get your show ever, even used another computer but I must be doing some thing wrong.
> > Nick
> >
> > --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Frank <frank@> wrote:
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> >
> > From: Frank <frank@>
> > Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Frank grew on me
> > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 3:08 PM
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> > Hay...I'm not dead...I'm right here. And I've been increasing my whacky quotient with supplements and a special workout I do upside down looking over my shoulder into a mirror.
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> > I have not heard last night's show yet, as I was unable to listen over the Internet. Has anyone else had this problem?
> >
> > I'll comment when I have heard it after downloading, but I'm sure Richard did a great job. He was great as a guest.
> >
> > ~FK
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@> wrote:
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> > > I thought last night's show was a very good interview with Annie Duke. The show had a different flavor without Frank. But I am sure Richard Munchkin will do an excellent job. It's certainly something I am going to look forward to listening to every week. One of the good things about Frank, though, was that he became a poster on vpfree and we all kinda got to know him. Yes, when the show first started, I thought Frank was a little whacky. And as the show continued, it turned out I was right. But Frank grew on me. I will miss him.
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Frank grew on me

 

Clicked on your hot key and could not find your program.. Sorry  but i did not have a 6th grader to help me.

--- On Fri, 8/5/11, Frank <frank@progressivevp.com> wrote:

From: Frank <frank@progressivevp.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Frank grew on me
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 3:54 PM

 

How were you trying to listen?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Hapycro1929 <hapycro1929@...> wrote:
>
> I could get your show ever, even used another computer but I must be doing some thing wrong.
> Nick
>
> --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Frank <frank@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Frank <frank@...>
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Frank grew on me
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 3:08 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Hay...I'm not dead...I'm right here. And I've been increasing my whacky quotient with supplements and a special workout I do upside down looking over my shoulder into a mirror.
>
> I have not heard last night's show yet, as I was unable to listen over the Internet. Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> I'll comment when I have heard it after downloading, but I'm sure Richard did a great job. He was great as a guest.
>
> ~FK
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@> wrote:
> >
> > I thought last night's show was a very good interview with Annie Duke. The show had a different flavor without Frank. But I am sure Richard Munchkin will do an excellent job. It's certainly something I am going to look forward to listening to every week. One of the good things about Frank, though, was that he became a poster on vpfree and we all kinda got to know him. Yes, when the show first started, I thought Frank was a little whacky. And as the show continued, it turned out I was right. But Frank grew on me. I will miss him.
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Fw: [vpFREE] Re: Flaws & Mistakes - Was: Writing the Palms

 

-- On Fri, 8/5/11, patricia swenson <jackessiebabe@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
From: patricia swenson <jackessiebabe@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Flaws & Mistakes - Was: Writing the Palms
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 1:11 PM

-- On Tue, 8/2/11, Frank <frank@progressivevp.com> wrote:
 
............It could be that I try to judge people by their motivations, rather than their actions.  When I can't determine motive, the emotional response registers more towards neutral, interfering with my lie-detection heuristic, which normally incorporates anger as a
mitigating factor to veracity.

More simply put, if I'm lied to, and it triggers an emotion other than anger, I'm extremely unlikely to notice the lie. I had not thought about this in such detail until brought me to task. Thank you very much! I will work to correct this.

It appears I had a flaw. Gosh, good thing it was only the one:)

~FK
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It's remarkable that we have so much in common!  You have only ONE flaw, and, just
yesterday, the 4th of August, I made my FIRST mistake in the year 2011.  {{O:
 
~Babe

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[vpFREE] Re: Flaws & Mistakes - Was: Writing the Palms

 



-- On Tue, 8/2/11, Frank <frank@progressivevp.com> wrote:
 
............It could be that I try to judge people by their motivations, rather than their actions.  When I can't determine motive, the emotional response registers more towards neutral, interfering with my lie-detection heuristic, which normally incorporates anger as a
mitigating factor to veracity.

More simply put, if I'm lied to, and it triggers an emotion other than anger, I'm extremely unlikely to notice the lie. I had not thought about this in such detail until brought me to task. Thank you very much! I will work to correct this.

It appears I had a flaw. Gosh, good thing it was only the one:)

~FK
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It's remarkable that we have so much in common!  You have only ONE flaw, and, just
yesterday, the 4th of August, I made my FIRST mistake in the year 2011.  {{O:
 
~Babe

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[vpFREE] Re: Frank grew on me

 

How were you trying to listen?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Hapycro1929 <hapycro1929@...> wrote:
>
> I could get your show ever, even used another computer but I must be doing some thing wrong.
> Nick
>
> --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Frank <frank@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Frank <frank@...>
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Frank grew on me
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 3:08 PM
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>
>  
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>
>
> Hay...I'm not dead...I'm right here. And I've been increasing my whacky quotient with supplements and a special workout I do upside down looking over my shoulder into a mirror.
>
> I have not heard last night's show yet, as I was unable to listen over the Internet. Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> I'll comment when I have heard it after downloading, but I'm sure Richard did a great job. He was great as a guest.
>
> ~FK
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@> wrote:
> >
> > I thought last night's show was a very good interview with Annie Duke. The show had a different flavor without Frank. But I am sure Richard Munchkin will do an excellent job. It's certainly something I am going to look forward to listening to every week. One of the good things about Frank, though, was that he became a poster on vpfree and we all kinda got to know him. Yes, when the show first started, I thought Frank was a little whacky. And as the show continued, it turned out I was right. But Frank grew on me. I will miss him.
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Frank grew on me

 

I could get your show ever, even used another computer but I must be doing some thing wrong.
Nick

--- On Fri, 8/5/11, Frank <frank@progressivevp.com> wrote:

From: Frank <frank@progressivevp.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Frank grew on me
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 3:08 PM

 

Hay...I'm not dead...I'm right here. And I've been increasing my whacky quotient with supplements and a special workout I do upside down looking over my shoulder into a mirror.

I have not heard last night's show yet, as I was unable to listen over the Internet. Has anyone else had this problem?

I'll comment when I have heard it after downloading, but I'm sure Richard did a great job. He was great as a guest.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
>
> I thought last night's show was a very good interview with Annie Duke. The show had a different flavor without Frank. But I am sure Richard Munchkin will do an excellent job. It's certainly something I am going to look forward to listening to every week. One of the good things about Frank, though, was that he became a poster on vpfree and we all kinda got to know him. Yes, when the show first started, I thought Frank was a little whacky. And as the show continued, it turned out I was right. But Frank grew on me. I will miss him.
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[vpFREE] Re: Frank grew on me

 

Hay...I'm not dead...I'm right here. And I've been increasing my whacky quotient with supplements and a special workout I do upside down looking over my shoulder into a mirror.

I have not heard last night's show yet, as I was unable to listen over the Internet. Has anyone else had this problem?

I'll comment when I have heard it after downloading, but I'm sure Richard did a great job. He was great as a guest.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
>
> I thought last night's show was a very good interview with Annie Duke. The show had a different flavor without Frank. But I am sure Richard Munchkin will do an excellent job. It's certainly something I am going to look forward to listening to every week. One of the good things about Frank, though, was that he became a poster on vpfree and we all kinda got to know him. Yes, when the show first started, I thought Frank was a little whacky. And as the show continued, it turned out I was right. But Frank grew on me. I will miss him.
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[vpFREE] Re: Bad Tidings from the Palms

 

I got a request for the top reasons NOT to play FPDW for quarters, so here goes:

1. not willing to trade an hour of life for $12.50 or whatever the hourly EV is (everyone has a price for this trade, some will even pay out to "relieve the boredom of life"), also second hand smoke and siting for long periods is bad for future health, so you're actually giving up an hour of present life plus several hours of future life plus health costs for the hourly EV
2. can play or find better games for kelly bankroll growth
3. can play or find better games for comps and mailers
4. not enough "action", you're not the "grinder" type, more the Triple Double Bonus or Royal Deuces type
5. no respect for quarter FPDW players who are the scum of the earth, you aspire to be a well known high roller who rides in limos, drinks top shelf, stays in top floor suites, always buys into the WSOP just for fun and to be seen, and so on
6. tedious, repetitive, mindless, assembly line type work
7. high crime environment, someone could "stick it in your kidneys" and you can't sue because they are indigent (no bank account or job) or undocumented

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:
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> Top ten reasons to play FPDW for quarters:
>
> 1. no background or drug checks
> 2. no SSN required
> 3. no paycheck deductions
> 4. you can still collect unemployment and foodstamps
> 5. free drinking and smoking while on the job
> 6. social skills not required
> 7. no dress or hygiene code
> 8. rarely any heat because very minor impact on casino bottom line
> 9. reasonable kelly bankroll: 26/.01-$3250
> 10. free s.w.a.g.
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@> wrote:
> > For me the quandary is more complex. Making $8-$12 an hour playing VP is not the same as a regular job for identical wages. There is fluctuation and the bankroll requirement to survive the swings. Normal jobs don't require you to keep $15,000 lying around to get hired and stay hired.
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