Re: [vpFREE] Re: Question about visit in November

 

Hi Everybody,
I am planning to visit LV this November during the WSOP final table. I used
to be a mid Diamond but now, due to the economic conditions, my business
has seen better times, I am Gold. I had been hoping I could talk my old host
into getting a couple of the plastic entry bracelets to the final table
for me but he is no longer employed. Will any of you be in LV during that
time and could perhaps give, trade or sell me a bracelet. Back when I was
invited to the event, I saw a lot of people not use their bracelets. If anybody
can help, please email me. _kypat@aol.com_ (mailto:kypat@aol.com) , Thanks

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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling with an Edge July 28th

 

I know you were asking a question of Rob, but I had a slight distinction that was relevant.

"Gaffed" is a term reserved for machines which report one thing but do another. Essentially, "Gaffed" means the casino is cheating.

As Indian casinos do not claim that their machines are completely random, dealing off a 52 card deck, they cannot ever be considered "gaffed" regardless of their non-randomness and lack of equiprobable card dealing.

Non-random, unfair, bad cricket, but not "gaffed". Or at least that's how the term is used in the circles I frequent.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <deucesdamule@...> wrote:
Oh! So does that mean the machines there aren't "gaffed" as they are at the indian casinos here in Arizona Rob?

Mule

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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling with an Edge July 28th

 


Oh! So does that mean the machines there aren't "gaffed" as they are at the indian casinos here in Arizona Rob?

-Mule

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111" <rob.singer1111@...> wrote:
>
> I can help on this. IGT machines are very plentiful in Australia, there are progressives, and regulations there are very similar to Nevada. So I'd expect there'd be a Frank clone or two.
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@> wrote:
> > >
> > > All these questions and more will be answered on-air. I do not know the answers, but Peter does.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Oh sure, make me wait two more days. You meanie.
> >
>

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[vpFREE] Re: Harrah's AK-CHIN

 

>> Is vpFREE2 up to date on this casino? Specifically I
>> need more info about the 5-play JoB listed there.
>> Location? How many machines?

> Enter via front doors by the fountain & statues.
> Walk straight ahead and count to about the 3rd bank
> of machine on your immediate left (perpendicular to
> the direction you're walking). You should find some
> multi-game VP machines (sorry can't remember manufacturer).

Someone checked these $1 5 play JoB machines and reported to vpFREE2 that the JoB is 9/5 not 9/6.

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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling with an Edge July 28th

 

More on your question. The hold of slots is typically greater than for VP, so it takes at least 1% MR to even have a chance to overcome the hold. Don't waste your time on progressive slots with less than 1% MR.

There are a few exceptions for slots that do not have the typical totally random progressive meters.

The money to be made playing slot progressives in Las Vegas is very little, but the action does look nice on your account and reduces the chances of a person being flagged as an AP. I would look at it as cover action, but don't plan on it paying your rent.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tomflush" <tomflush@...> wrote:
>
> Frank , I really dont care about Australian gambling.
> What I'd really like to know are
> -- modern advantage slots
> -- what are they and where are they
> -- how to beat them
>
> Did I miss a show, or you have not got around to it ?
> best wishes...Tom
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank" <frank@...>
> To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:04 PM
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Gambling with an Edge July 28th
>
>
> Realty includes, but is not limited to the following statements.
>
> It was my idea to do a radio show with a gambling in Las Vegas theme. though
> I was in favor of a broader topic base. I asked Bob if he'd like to co-host
> with me. It was never my intention to do the show for more than a year. A
> recent sharp decline in listener-ship has promoted the need for a format
> change. Bob and I discussed it and it makes more sense for me to leave,
> since I was the short-timer anyway.
>
> Bob's life and a ongoing career are devoted to gambling with an edge (and I
> don't mean the show). Therefore he will carry on in my stead with a new
> co-host Richard Munchkin that has much broader gambling experience than I
> do. As bizarre as this comment might seem, Bob and I are too similar in
> disciplines (both VP pros). The inclusion of Richard should be a great move.
>
> I had very different ideas on how to take the show national and pump up the
> ratings. Bob and I do disagree on what is and is not "gambling related". It
> would be silly for me to go to a lot of trouble and fight for what I believe
> only to end the show anyway in another six months.
>
> Bob and I are now in total agreement on this new change and we are parting
> good friends. I may also do some guest appearances in the future. I wish him
> nothing but the best and I hope my fans out there will give the new co-host
> a chance.
>
> ~FK
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Cohen <brucedcohen2002@> wrote:
> >
> > I must have missed it.
> > Â
> > This darn job gets in the way of my VPFree life.
> > Â
> > Your last show as co-host?
> > Are you out and Bob taking over?
> > Is Bob out and you are going to do it from here on?
> > Are the two of you inviting a third person?
> > Â
> > What's the haps?
> >
> > --- On Tue, 7/26/11, Frank <frank@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Frank <frank@>
> > Subject: [vpFREE] Gambling with an Edge July 28th
> > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 10:13 AM
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> >
> > This will be my last show as co-host. Bob is on vacation, so I'll be
> > flying solo.
> >
> > I will have two guests:
> >
> > 1. Peter Liston an active progressive slot team owner from Australia that
> > is essentially living my book down under. I'm very excited about this
> > guest, as it will be the first time I've had a chance to interview someone
> > in my direct branch of pro gambling that's not retired.
> >
> > 2. Dr. William McCown will be on to talk about his latest book which is a
> > diagnosis and treatment guide for practitioners dealing with problem
> > gambling across the county. His take on the third wave gambling and where
> > it's taking us is different from I Nelson's Rose. The contrast should be
> > illuminating.
> >
> > I'll be opening the phone lines so people can call in with questions or
> > just to say Hi/By to me. Unlike our show format in the past, I'll be
> > taking callers for both guests.
> >
> > I plan on ending on a high note ( E above high C).
> >
> > Our Live Air-Time is: 7 PM Thursday nights on KLAV Talk-Radio 1230am In
> > Las Vegas. You can listen live at: http://www.klav1230am.com/
> >
> > To CALL in LIVE during the show the Numbers are:
> > (702) 731-1230 & 1-(866) 820-5528
> >
> > ~FK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> vpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm
>
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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling with an Edge July 28th

 

We've discussed this on the show several times. All progressive slots are potentially playable, but they need to be evaluated on a machine by machine basis using frequency studies or other tricky techniques...and even then the casino can change them without any difference that's visible on the exterior.

Two seemingly identical slots in different casinos or even the same casino could have widely different returns.

It's very unsure and risky business.

Peter says he plays lots of slots in Australia.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tomflush" <tomflush@...> wrote:
>
> Frank , I really dont care about Australian gambling.
> What I'd really like to know are
> -- modern advantage slots
> -- what are they and where are they
> -- how to beat them
>
> Did I miss a show, or you have not got around to it ?
> best wishes...Tom
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank" <frank@...>
> To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:04 PM
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Gambling with an Edge July 28th
>
>
> Realty includes, but is not limited to the following statements.
>
> It was my idea to do a radio show with a gambling in Las Vegas theme. though
> I was in favor of a broader topic base. I asked Bob if he'd like to co-host
> with me. It was never my intention to do the show for more than a year. A
> recent sharp decline in listener-ship has promoted the need for a format
> change. Bob and I discussed it and it makes more sense for me to leave,
> since I was the short-timer anyway.
>
> Bob's life and a ongoing career are devoted to gambling with an edge (and I
> don't mean the show). Therefore he will carry on in my stead with a new
> co-host Richard Munchkin that has much broader gambling experience than I
> do. As bizarre as this comment might seem, Bob and I are too similar in
> disciplines (both VP pros). The inclusion of Richard should be a great move.
>
> I had very different ideas on how to take the show national and pump up the
> ratings. Bob and I do disagree on what is and is not "gambling related". It
> would be silly for me to go to a lot of trouble and fight for what I believe
> only to end the show anyway in another six months.
>
> Bob and I are now in total agreement on this new change and we are parting
> good friends. I may also do some guest appearances in the future. I wish him
> nothing but the best and I hope my fans out there will give the new co-host
> a chance.
>
> ~FK
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Cohen <brucedcohen2002@> wrote:
> >
> > I must have missed it.
> > Â
> > This darn job gets in the way of my VPFree life.
> > Â
> > Your last show as co-host?
> > Are you out and Bob taking over?
> > Is Bob out and you are going to do it from here on?
> > Are the two of you inviting a third person?
> > Â
> > What's the haps?
> >
> > --- On Tue, 7/26/11, Frank <frank@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Frank <frank@>
> > Subject: [vpFREE] Gambling with an Edge July 28th
> > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 10:13 AM
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> >
> > This will be my last show as co-host. Bob is on vacation, so I'll be
> > flying solo.
> >
> > I will have two guests:
> >
> > 1. Peter Liston an active progressive slot team owner from Australia that
> > is essentially living my book down under. I'm very excited about this
> > guest, as it will be the first time I've had a chance to interview someone
> > in my direct branch of pro gambling that's not retired.
> >
> > 2. Dr. William McCown will be on to talk about his latest book which is a
> > diagnosis and treatment guide for practitioners dealing with problem
> > gambling across the county. His take on the third wave gambling and where
> > it's taking us is different from I Nelson's Rose. The contrast should be
> > illuminating.
> >
> > I'll be opening the phone lines so people can call in with questions or
> > just to say Hi/By to me. Unlike our show format in the past, I'll be
> > taking callers for both guests.
> >
> > I plan on ending on a high note ( E above high C).
> >
> > Our Live Air-Time is: 7 PM Thursday nights on KLAV Talk-Radio 1230am In
> > Las Vegas. You can listen live at: http://www.klav1230am.com/
> >
> > To CALL in LIVE during the show the Numbers are:
> > (702) 731-1230 & 1-(866) 820-5528
> >
> > ~FK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
> vpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm
>
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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Gambling with an Edge July 28th

 

Frank , I really dont care about Australian gambling.
What I'd really like to know are
-- modern advantage slots
-- what are they and where are they
-- how to beat them

Did I miss a show, or you have not got around to it ?
best wishes...Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank" <frank@progressivevp.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:04 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Gambling with an Edge July 28th

Realty includes, but is not limited to the following statements.

It was my idea to do a radio show with a gambling in Las Vegas theme. though
I was in favor of a broader topic base. I asked Bob if he'd like to co-host
with me. It was never my intention to do the show for more than a year. A
recent sharp decline in listener-ship has promoted the need for a format
change. Bob and I discussed it and it makes more sense for me to leave,
since I was the short-timer anyway.

Bob's life and a ongoing career are devoted to gambling with an edge (and I
don't mean the show). Therefore he will carry on in my stead with a new
co-host Richard Munchkin that has much broader gambling experience than I
do. As bizarre as this comment might seem, Bob and I are too similar in
disciplines (both VP pros). The inclusion of Richard should be a great move.

I had very different ideas on how to take the show national and pump up the
ratings. Bob and I do disagree on what is and is not "gambling related". It
would be silly for me to go to a lot of trouble and fight for what I believe
only to end the show anyway in another six months.

Bob and I are now in total agreement on this new change and we are parting
good friends. I may also do some guest appearances in the future. I wish him
nothing but the best and I hope my fans out there will give the new co-host
a chance.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Cohen <brucedcohen2002@...> wrote:
>
> I must have missed it.
> Â
> This darn job gets in the way of my VPFree life.
> Â
> Your last show as co-host?
> Are you out and Bob taking over?
> Is Bob out and you are going to do it from here on?
> Are the two of you inviting a third person?
> Â
> What's the haps?
>
> --- On Tue, 7/26/11, Frank <frank@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Frank <frank@...>
> Subject: [vpFREE] Gambling with an Edge July 28th
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 10:13 AM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> This will be my last show as co-host. Bob is on vacation, so I'll be
> flying solo.
>
> I will have two guests:
>
> 1. Peter Liston an active progressive slot team owner from Australia that
> is essentially living my book down under. I'm very excited about this
> guest, as it will be the first time I've had a chance to interview someone
> in my direct branch of pro gambling that's not retired.
>
> 2. Dr. William McCown will be on to talk about his latest book which is a
> diagnosis and treatment guide for practitioners dealing with problem
> gambling across the county. His take on the third wave gambling and where
> it's taking us is different from I Nelson's Rose. The contrast should be
> illuminating.
>
> I'll be opening the phone lines so people can call in with questions or
> just to say Hi/By to me. Unlike our show format in the past, I'll be
> taking callers for both guests.
>
> I plan on ending on a high note ( E above high C).
>
> Our Live Air-Time is: 7 PM Thursday nights on KLAV Talk-Radio 1230am In
> Las Vegas. You can listen live at: http://www.klav1230am.com/
>
> To CALL in LIVE during the show the Numbers are:
> (702) 731-1230 & 1-(866) 820-5528
>
> ~FK
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling with an Edge July 28th

 

I can help on this. IGT machines are very plentiful in Australia, there are progressives, and regulations there are very similar to Nevada. So I'd expect there'd be a Frank clone or two.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@> wrote:
> >
> > All these questions and more will be answered on-air. I do not know the answers, but Peter does.
> >
>
>
> Oh sure, make me wait two more days. You meanie.
>

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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling with an Edge July 28th

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
>
> All these questions and more will be answered on-air. I do not know the answers, but Peter does.
>

Oh sure, make me wait two more days. You meanie.

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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling with an Edge July 28th

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
>
> Current statistics put downloads as 85% of a shows total listener volume. I was able to track downloads from my site and estimate our total listeners. I also had to account for the fact that 64% of the downloads I was getting were just my funny show closes and not the actual show.
>
> Does that answer your question?
>

Well, kinda.

But as for me, I haven't downloaded it for quite awhile. But that's because I make sure I'm home to listen to it live, even if it means I have to drive over the speed limit. Your show has been like a new toy under the Christmas tree for me.

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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling with an Edge July 28th

 

All these questions and more will be answered on-air. I do not know the answers, but Peter does.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 1. Peter Liston an active progressive slot team owner from Australia that is essentially living my book down under. I'm very excited about this guest, as it will be the first time I've had a chance to interview someone in my direct branch of pro gambling that's not retired.
> >
>
>
>
> I know this might be a stupid question, but do they have video poker in Australia like they do here? Are you saying he's an Australian pro, IN Australia? Are they IGT machines? And Bally's, etc?
>
> Heh, maybe they're all machines made by Aristocrat. Aren't they an Australian company?
>

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[vpFREE] Re: Gambling with an Edge July 28th

 

Current statistics put downloads as 85% of a shows total listener volume. I was able to track downloads from my site and estimate our total listeners. I also had to account for the fact that 64% of the downloads I was getting were just my funny show closes and not the actual show.

Does that answer your question?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@> wrote:
> >
> > A recent sharp decline in listener-ship has promoted the need for a format change.
>
>
>
>
> I've been meaning to ask, how do you know the listener-ship has declined sharply? How do they measure that? Just curious.
>

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Gambling with an Edge July 28th

 


Best of luck in your future endeavors, Frank.
 
A fan of yours.
 
Pat
 

--- On Tue, 7/26/11, Frank <frank@progressivevp.com> wrote:

From: Frank <frank@progressivevp.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Gambling with an Edge July 28th
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 8:04 PM

 

Bob and I are now in total agreement on this new change and we are parting good friends. I may also do some guest appearances in the future. I wish him nothing but the best and I hope my fans out there will give the new co-host a chance.

~FK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Cohen <brucedcohen2002@...> wrote:
>
> I must have missed it.
>  
> This darn job gets in the way of my VPFree life.
>  
> Your last show as co-host?
> Are you out and Bob taking over?
> Is Bob out and you are going to do it from here on?
> Are the two of you inviting a third person?
>  
> What's the haps?
>
> --- On Tue, 7/26/11, Frank <frank@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Frank <frank@...>
> Subject: [vpFREE] Gambling with an Edge July 28th
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 10:13 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> This will be my last show as co-host. Bob is on vacation, so I'll be flying solo.
>
> I will have two guests:
>
> 1. Peter Liston an active progressive slot team owner from Australia that is essentially living my book down under. I'm very excited about this guest, as it will be the first time I've had a chance to interview someone in my direct branch of pro gambling that's not retired.
>
> 2. Dr. William McCown will be on to talk about his latest book which is a diagnosis and treatment guide for practitioners dealing with problem gambling across the county. His take on the third wave gambling and where it's taking us is different from I Nelson's Rose. The contrast should be illuminating.
>
> I'll be opening the phone lines so people can call in with questions or just to say Hi/By to me. Unlike our show format in the past, I'll be taking callers for both guests.
>
> I plan on ending on a high note ( E above high C).
>
> Our Live Air-Time is: 7 PM Thursday nights on KLAV Talk-Radio 1230am In Las Vegas. You can listen live at: http://www.klav1230am.com/
>
> To CALL in LIVE during the show the Numbers are:
> (702) 731-1230 & 1-(866) 820-5528
>
> ~FK
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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