They were discussing the huge success of poker, specifically the WSOP, and some amazing growth statistics such as what happened immediately following Chris Moneymaker's win.
Bob "jokingly", or "laughingly", said something about wishing video poker could enjoy the same kind of popularity and growth that poker had. He said it in a laughing manner, but I'm sure inside he is probably not laughing. That IS what video poker needs! A shot in the arm! Something that will bring in the public's fascination, just like poker has enjoyed. I do not pretend to know what that something is. I do know that it will take some creative thinking, some vision.
At the same time, I think we should all be excited about what these guys have pulled off with The M Resort Experiment. Sounds like it's pretty successful so far. I know it's early yet. But the casino is thinking about putting in MORE? Wow, that's a positive thought! The glass is half full.
I'm thinking this might be the beginning of something big. Sure, it's not a new concept, but it is kinda "new" in today's environment. Imagine five years from now, after Bob & Franks little experiment here, served as a prototype and the idea caught on all over the nation. lol Yeah, I know I'm dreaming. But so was Chris Moneymaker.
I can't stop thinking about something I read from Bill Zender's book, Casino-ology. He stated that blackjack's popularity was due to the idea that players could beat the game, and the "ROMANCE" of thinking they could make money and live the good life while doing so. He then concluded that if the casinos were to take away that "romance concept", the game would wither away or at least lose its popularity. He compared the boom in live poker. The public SEES that there can be and are professional poker players, who live the life, making money and living the good life while doing so. Regardless of how realistic that is to the average player, that is what has made the game grow beyond our wildest imagination.
Anyway, you can fill in the blanks, and finish my thoughts. That's the direction video poker has to go. Somehow.
[vpFREE] A comment Bob made to Nolan Dalla tonight
Re: [vpFREE] Re: XVP: Tipping at bartops
Bob Bartop <bobbartop@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Slow Cooked Pork <slowcookedpork@...> wrote:
>
>> Bob, I guess I just assumed that you were an EV+ drinker, i.e., included the
>> alcohol as part of the EV of playing. Oh well, blasts that assumption out
>> of the water. What's your rationale for liking bartops over other
>> machines? Or is it just the alliteration of the name?
>
> When my grandfather, Giuseppe Bartopariniloupolosky, came here from the old country and landed at Ellis Island, he had to shorten his last name so they could fit it on his new player's card.
LOL!
post of the month.
[vpFREE] Re: XVP: Tipping at bartops
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Slow Cooked Pork <slowcookedpork@...> wrote:
>
> Bob, I guess I just assumed that you were an EV+ drinker, i.e., included the
> alcohol as part of the EV of playing. Oh well, blasts that assumption out
> of the water. What's your rationale for liking bartops over other
> machines? Or is it just the alliteration of the name?
>
When my grandfather, Giuseppe Bartopariniloupolosky, came here from the old country and landed at Ellis Island, he had to shorten his last name so they could fit it on his new player's card.
I'm glad he had that foresight, because I like to play a lot of weekly drawings.
Re: [vpFREE] Re: XVP: Tipping at bartops
Bob, I guess I just assumed that you were an EV+ drinker, i.e., included the
alcohol as part of the EV of playing. Oh well, blasts that assumption out
of the water. What's your rationale for liking bartops over other
machines? Or is it just the alliteration of the name?
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Bob Bartop <bobbartop@yahoo.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Slow Cooked Pork <slowcookedpork@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking at Bob Bartop for a good answer to this one.
> >
> >
>
> I really don't do the bar thing much, unless I'm playing video poker. I'm
> probably not a good source for advice. I seldom drink more than two cokes,
> especially if I'm driving. I put a dollar for each one in the tip glass that
> he leaves.
>
> Sometimes I feel a little wild, and order a Shirley Temple instead. I might
> leave $2 for that.
>
>
>
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RE: [vpFREE] Picking Up Freeplay
That's the same definition I have for advantage play. Where I live in Saratoga CA, every business wants me to pay full price for food, beverages, merchandise, concerts, and miscellaneous services.
James Thompson
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: joejavinn@gmail.com
Date: Thu,___
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[vpFREE] Picking Up Freeplay
Personally, my wife and I are happy with the extra perks not included in the
formula. We consider entertainment, great meals, free drinks, air fare, limo
rides, beautiful rooms, free wallets/purses, small appliances, electronics,
shows, cruises, golf outings, gifts for our children/grandchildren/friends,
etc which are all generated by our play as plenty of an advantage for us.
We are not trying to make a living, only to enhance our lifestyle without
going broke.
Joel P.
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[vpFREE] Re: Good Palms Offer for freeplay
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@...> wrote:
>
> Click on the Las Vegas offers on the upper right side. Says existing
> members can do this once a month.
>
>
>
> <http://tinyurl.com/5s5xrbl> http://tinyurl.com/5s5xrbl
>
>
>
>
>
> Scot
>I noticed that the link led to a bunch of Norwegian Cruise line offers of $50 play for $25. The last time we cruised on the Norwegian Spirit a little over a year ago my wife and I were each given a funbook with freeplay and matchplays for craps, blackjack ect. While killing time I made a few bucks using this stuff. I played video bj to play through the slot offer. I made enough to pay for a couple of days of beers.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
RE: [vpFREE] Re: Good Palms Offer for freeplay
How about online dating..some are quite respectable now you know..look for
someone in area you might want to move to and let nature take its
course...just a thought about what I would do if still single.good luck.
Lisa
My ever increasing age and continuing single status has been waring on my
mind a lot lately. For me the problem may simply be Vegas related. I do not
want to live here for the rest of my life and I would never marry anyone
that did. But here I am living in Vegas, where demographics dictates you are
more likely to find people that like living in Las Vegas.
It is a quandary, and one that may require drastic measures to solve.
~FK
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[vpFREE] Re: How long before the Palms FPDW disappear?
End of the year for sure. Give me November 28.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "pumsparky" <dianalnagy@...> wrote:
>
> Click here: Maloofs' stake in Palms at 2 percent - Business - ReviewJournal.com
>
> SInce most of people on board are gamblers, there should be pool on the day and time the FPDW are yanked from the floor.
>
[vpFREE] Re: Good Palms Offer for freeplay
It's not $14.98 if you can use it on the FPDW!
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
>
> You know I completely missed that. Good point. My brain saw 40-25 = 15 and I ended the calculation there.
>
> I'm still ignoring it. $14.98 in theo a month is not worth the effort.
>
> ~FK
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "TIMSPEED" <corvetteracing87@> wrote:
> >
> > Cal-Neva in Reno had this offer going for a while..give them $20 to get $40 in freeplay...I'd do that shit 6 ways to sunday...
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, patricia swenson <jackessiebabe@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Frank <frank@>
> > > Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Good Palms Offer for freeplay
> > > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Thursday, June 23, 2011, 11:59 AM
> > >
> > > This has to be one of the most bizarre offers I've ever heard of...
> > >
> > > Why not just offer a coupon for $15 in freeplay?
> > >
> > > Pay $25 to get $40???
> > > =============================================
> > > Because a coupon for $15 of FP might only produce a coin-in amount, from the
> > > player of $15.00. If the player pays $25,00 in order to receive $40.00 in FP, that would insure that the player's coin-in amount would be at least $40.00.
> > >
> > > In my opinion, if a player is going to gamble at least $40.00, this is a good deal.
> > >
> > > ~Babe
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
[vpFREE] Re: Good Palms Offer for freeplay
Yeah, I did it at the Cal Neva last fall. Couldn't use it on the VP I tried so I ran it through an idiot slot on the top floor. Came out with like a $30 profit. Not too shabby!
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "TIMSPEED" <corvetteracing87@...> wrote:
>
> Cal-Neva in Reno had this offer going for a while..give them $20 to get $40 in freeplay...I'd do that shit 6 ways to sunday...
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, patricia swenson <jackessiebabe@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Frank <frank@>
> > Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Good Palms Offer for freeplay
> > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, June 23, 2011, 11:59 AM
> >
> > This has to be one of the most bizarre offers I've ever heard of...
> >
> > Why not just offer a coupon for $15 in freeplay?
> >
> > Pay $25 to get $40???
> > =============================================
> > Because a coupon for $15 of FP might only produce a coin-in amount, from the
> > player of $15.00. If the player pays $25,00 in order to receive $40.00 in FP, that would insure that the player's coin-in amount would be at least $40.00.
> >
> > In my opinion, if a player is going to gamble at least $40.00, this is a good deal.
> >
> > ~Babe
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
[vpFREE] Re: $25 Triple Play Triple Double Bonus at Palace
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, lasvegaspilgrim@... wrote:
>
> Latest jackpot winner on their facebook feed shows a $100,000 RF and 2 $125 Pairs...payout indicates 98.15%, at that level (25$ times 5 times 3=$375 a pop) can the perks/points, etc. possibly make it into a positive place (other than for the lucky person who hit this one)???
>
Nope. But the same can be said for those betting black on 98.6% craps or (I have seen it with my own eyes) 94.74% roulette.
Don't forget that the 50% poweball game has produced more millionaires than video poker at its best ever thought of producing!
[vpFREE] Re: Good Palms Offer for freeplay
See Frank, its good to talk about something other than poker sometimes.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Sai Sai" <gofastnismo@> wrote: You taking that girl that you had the date with or did you blow her off already? Remember women and poker can co exist.
>
> FK Reply: (not vp related or important)
> I'm sure most of the folks at vpFREE don't want to hear about my love life, or lack thereof, but since you asked.
>
> The Playboy playmate and I saw each other once, she turned out to be 25 years old which is far too young for me. I very politely informed her that I was looking for something more serious than "just having fun" and I have not heard from or called her since.
>
> Tonight I'm taking my fiend David and his wife to Deep Purple. Tomorrow I'm also going to RUSH with a guy friend from the meetup 80's group.
>
> I have no romantic prospects whatsoever and haven't had any real ones in a very long time (11 years). If your affirmation that, "women and poker can co exist" is true, I cannot confirm it at this time, or perhaps ever.
>
> The combination doesn't work for me. I'm considering getting out of VP altogether to restore my date-ability...this is of course assuming I ever had any to begin with.
>
> My ever increasing age and continuing single status has been waring on my mind a lot lately. For me the problem may simply be Vegas related. I do not want to live here for the rest of my life and I would never marry anyone that did. But here I am living in Vegas, where demographics dictates you are more likely to find people that like living in Las Vegas.
>
> It is a quandary, and one that may require drastic measures to solve.
>
> ~FK
>
[vpFREE] Re: Good Palms Offer for freeplay
You know I completely missed that. Good point. My brain saw 40-25 = 15 and I ended the calculation there.
I'm still ignoring it. $14.98 in theo a month is not worth the effort.
~FK
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "TIMSPEED" <corvetteracing87@...> wrote:
>
> Cal-Neva in Reno had this offer going for a while..give them $20 to get $40 in freeplay...I'd do that shit 6 ways to sunday...
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, patricia swenson <jackessiebabe@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Frank <frank@>
> > Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Good Palms Offer for freeplay
> > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, June 23, 2011, 11:59 AM
> >
> > This has to be one of the most bizarre offers I've ever heard of...
> >
> > Why not just offer a coupon for $15 in freeplay?
> >
> > Pay $25 to get $40???
> > =============================================
> > Because a coupon for $15 of FP might only produce a coin-in amount, from the
> > player of $15.00. If the player pays $25,00 in order to receive $40.00 in FP, that would insure that the player's coin-in amount would be at least $40.00.
> >
> > In my opinion, if a player is going to gamble at least $40.00, this is a good deal.
> >
> > ~Babe
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
[vpFREE] Re: Good Palms Offer for freeplay
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Sai Sai" <gofastnismo@...> wrote: You taking that girl that you had the date with or did you blow her off already? Remember women and poker can co exist.
FK Reply: (not vp related or important)
I'm sure most of the folks at vpFREE don't want to hear about my love life, or lack thereof, but since you asked.
The Playboy playmate and I saw each other once, she turned out to be 25 years old which is far too young for me. I very politely informed her that I was looking for something more serious than "just having fun" and I have not heard from or called her since.
Tonight I'm taking my fiend David and his wife to Deep Purple. Tomorrow I'm also going to RUSH with a guy friend from the meetup 80's group.
I have no romantic prospects whatsoever and haven't had any real ones in a very long time (11 years). If your affirmation that, "women and poker can co exist" is true, I cannot confirm it at this time, or perhaps ever.
The combination doesn't work for me. I'm considering getting out of VP altogether to restore my date-ability...this is of course assuming I ever had any to begin with.
My ever increasing age and continuing single status has been waring on my mind a lot lately. For me the problem may simply be Vegas related. I do not want to live here for the rest of my life and I would never marry anyone that did. But here I am living in Vegas, where demographics dictates you are more likely to find people that like living in Las Vegas.
It is a quandary, and one that may require drastic measures to solve.
~FK