[vpFREE] Re: More sad news from the Palms

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "derangedmutant040925" <derangedmutant040925@...> wrote:
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>
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> 1. Not everyone plays perfectly. And hardly anyone who doesn't makes any effort to improve, and certainly they keep playing regardless.
> 2. The skilled FPDW players have spouses, friends, etc., all of whom may have a craps or slot jones, making the visit of the COUPLE highly lucrative for the casino.
> 3. The skilled FPDW player may consume other services that the casino offers at a profit.
> 4. The skilled FPDW player may become fatigued, may get a headache, etc., and may make the two errors/hr sufficient to destroy his advantage.
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I completely agree with derangedmutant's cogent reasons why the Palms should keep their 10 FPDW machines, particularly #3. I know from experience that there's nothing like a royal in the casino to get a group of three up to Alize for an $800+ dinner; a group that can't get comped because it plays the wrong machines; a group that takes two rooms when there are so many vacancies in Las Vegas; a group that spends $200+ a night at Little Buddha when there are no royals; a group that plays at negative EV after dinner and drinks; and a group that feels terrible about deciding to take their business elsewhere in the future.

DPTNST,

John

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[vpFREE] Re: More sad news from the Palms

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "derangedmutant040925" <derangedmutant040925@...> wrote:
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>
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> 1. Not everyone plays perfectly. And hardly anyone who doesn't makes any effort to improve, and certainly they keep playing regardless.
> 2. The skilled FPDW players have spouses, friends, etc., all of whom may have a craps or slot jones, making the visit of the COUPLE highly lucrative for the casino.
> 3. The skilled FPDW player may consume other services that the casino offers at a profit.
> 4. The skilled FPDW player may become fatigued, may get a headache, etc., and may make the two errors/hr sufficient to destroy his advantage.
>
>
I completely agree with derangedmutant's cogent reasons why the Palms should keep their 10 FPDW machines, particularly #3. I know from experience that there's nothing like a royal in the casino to get a group of three up to Alize for an $800+ dinner; a group that can't get comped because it plays the wrong machines; a group that takes two rooms when there are so many vacancies in Las Vegas; a group that spends $200+ a night at Little Buddha when there are no royals; a group that plays at negative EV after dinner and drinks; and a group that feels terrible about deciding to take their business elsewhere in the future.

DPTNST,

John

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[vpFREE] Re: Biggest VP Hit?

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
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> Where is it, by the way? Anyone know?
>

I would guess it's Aria. I hadn't been in there for over a year since they promo-banned me, but they had a $100 8/5 Bonus prog last time I was there. It could also be Bellagio, I suppose, but I don't remember that prog being anywhere near that level last time I was there.

Damn it. I guess it goes to prove that you should still scout places that promo-banned you.

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[vpFREE] Re: Biggest VP Hit?

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "homancg" <auhoman@...> wrote:
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> Huck Seed just posted this via twitter, wondering what some of the bigger known hits are for VP this has to be up there.
> http://lockerz.com/s/126049089
>

Looks like a hundred dollar Bonus Poker progressive. And it's positive EV too! Hey, someone let me know when it reaches $600,000 again. Thanks. lol

Where is it, by the way? Anyone know?

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Re: [vpFREE] Biggest VP Hit?

 

That's a nice pic (and I never knew Huck was a VP player too), but I believe
denoms go up to $5,000, so I doubt that is the biggest hit.

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 7:47 PM, homancg <auhoman@gmail.com> wrote:

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>
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> Huck Seed just posted this via twitter, wondering what some of the bigger
> known hits are for VP this has to be up there.
> http://lockerz.com/s/126049089
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>

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[vpFREE] Biggest VP Hit?

 

Huck Seed just posted this via twitter, wondering what some of the bigger known hits are for VP this has to be up there.
http://lockerz.com/s/126049089

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[vpFREE] Re: Eastside Cannery machine locations

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rwsnapp" <richardsnapp@...> wrote:
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> The database indicates there are .25 Bonus machines
> "scattered around the casino". Can someone please tell me
> specifically where they are? I could only find 7/5 Bonus
> in .25 there.

It looks like someone saw your question and reported some specific Eastside Cannery 25c 8/5 BP locations to vpFREE2.

A comment was also added saying be cautious because there are some 8/5 BP there that pay 30 for all quads, lowering the return from 99.17% to 98.48%.

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Re: [vpFREE] Open question to 007

 

I have no objection to it being discussed. I'll be talking to him
before the show, so I'll bring up the subject with him.

Bob Dancer wrote:

>This is an open question to 007. Although I know your name, I'm not positive you have identified yourself on this forum namewise, so I will use your "handle."
>
>On August 11, Bob Nersesian will be a guest on the radio show "Gambling with an Edge." There are a zillion things to talk about, but one of them could be your lawsuit with Jerry's Nugget --- which has been in the newspaper and has been discussed somewhat on vpFREE --- and Nersesian is your lawyer in that lawsuit.
>
>If you want us to ask him about the lawsuit and related matters, you're going to have to tell us so, and also to tell Nersesian that you want him to talk about it. Unless you do that, he will likely decline comment based on attorney-client privilege or somesuch. I'm sure there are still limits to what he will and will not talk about, but if you give him the OK he'll talk about more than if you don't. (If he bills you for this, you're on your own!)
>
>There will be no lack of things to talk about with Nersesian, so we don't "need" this subject. Do what's right for you and your case. But if we do ask him about it, one question will likely be based on the following post you made:
>
> I was surprised at something my attorney is saying about my case. I hope I've understood it correctly. A policeman/woman may legally detain someone whom he or she believes has committed a crime and it wouldn't be false imprisonment, but a private individual may only detain someone who has actually committed a crime or the detention is false imprisonment. "Probable cause" is irrelevant to a private individual. That I was found to not have committed a crime necessarily means that I was falsely imprisoned, even if there had been probable cause to believe I had committed a crime.
>
>Bob Dancer
>
>
>
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[vpFREE] VEGASINC: Hooters resort files Chapter 11

 

VEGASINC: Hooters resort files Chapter 11

http://www.vegasinc.com/news/2011/aug/01/hooters-resort-files-chapter-11/

or

http://tinyurl.com/438jawp

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[vpFREE] Re: Bad Tidings from the Palms

 

Closer to the action I think, without looking it up. I've never been there but isn't GVR WAY south?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bradr19" <briffel@...> wrote:
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>
> Ok....... Sam's Town it is.
> Why is it better than Green Valley Ranch?
> Just wondering.
> Thanks for all your help.
> Brad
> Amarillo
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@> wrote:
> >
> > Sam's Town.
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bradr19" <briffel@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I"m not unmotivated. I play for fun. I really enjoy sitting down and playing for two or three hours while my wife watches and roots me on. I enjoy the drinks and the excitement that was the Palms. I booked a room for 3 nights there in two weeks. Now I'm thinking of going elsewhere. I have free rooms at the GN, but nothing positive to play there.
> > > I'm a guy that they make money on even playing a positive machine. We'll eat there and play other games. Hey, I'm coming out there to have fun. I probably don't play fast enough to make the $8 per hour. I'm probably at $5. They are going to lose me and my hotel $$ and food $$ and gambling $$.
> > > I guess I'll go over to Green Valley Ranch and play. I think that is the closest place that has FPDW.
> > > Brad
> > > Amarillo
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111" <rob.singer1111@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I look at full-time vp players--if there's really such a thing on quarters--as unmotivated people who really don't have a family life and who are very addicted to the poker machines. Making $8-$12/hr. is something I'd expect for teenagers and isn't anything anyone can make a decent living on. As a supplement it's fine, but there is no such thing as a vp career without playing at much higher limits.
> > > >
> > > > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "derangedmutant040925" <derangedmutant040925@> wrote:
> > > > > You forgot to mention that fulltime VP players are diseased, psychotic, children of felons, and that they killed Jesus. They are also responsible for global warming.
> > > > >
> > > > > I personally am able to fathom why someone might want to set their own hours, be their own boss, and have to answer to no one while earning $8-12/hr (depending on speed and accuracy) rather than explore the myriad exciting career opportunities available in the fast food industry while earning minimum wage. But that's just me.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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[vpFREE] Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 2 AUG 2011

 

Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 2 AUG 2011

"A Look at Gambling Wizards"

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2011/0802.cfm

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[vpFREE] Open question to 007

 


This is an open question to 007. Although I know your name, I'm not positive you have identified yourself on this forum namewise, so I will use your "handle."

On August 11, Bob Nersesian will be a guest on the radio show "Gambling with an Edge." There are a zillion things to talk about, but one of them could be your lawsuit with Jerry's Nugget --- which has been in the newspaper and has been discussed somewhat on vpFREE --- and Nersesian is your lawyer in that lawsuit.

If you want us to ask him about the lawsuit and related matters, you're going to have to tell us so, and also to tell Nersesian that you want him to talk about it. Unless you do that, he will likely decline comment based on attorney-client privilege or somesuch. I'm sure there are still limits to what he will and will not talk about, but if you give him the OK he'll talk about more than if you don't. (If he bills you for this, you're on your own!)

There will be no lack of things to talk about with Nersesian, so we don't "need" this subject. Do what's right for you and your case. But if we do ask him about it, one question will likely be based on the following post you made:

I was surprised at something my attorney is saying about my case. I hope I've understood it correctly. A policeman/woman may legally detain someone whom he or she believes has committed a crime and it wouldn't be false imprisonment, but a private individual may only detain someone who has actually committed a crime or the detention is false imprisonment. "Probable cause" is irrelevant to a private individual. That I was found to not have committed a crime necessarily means that I was falsely imprisoned, even if there had been probable cause to believe I had committed a crime.

Bob Dancer



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[vpFREE] Re: Bad Tidings from the Palms

 


Ok....... Sam's Town it is.
Why is it better than Green Valley Ranch?
Just wondering.
Thanks for all your help.
Brad
Amarillo

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:
>
> Sam's Town.
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bradr19" <briffel@> wrote:
> >
> > I"m not unmotivated. I play for fun. I really enjoy sitting down and playing for two or three hours while my wife watches and roots me on. I enjoy the drinks and the excitement that was the Palms. I booked a room for 3 nights there in two weeks. Now I'm thinking of going elsewhere. I have free rooms at the GN, but nothing positive to play there.
> > I'm a guy that they make money on even playing a positive machine. We'll eat there and play other games. Hey, I'm coming out there to have fun. I probably don't play fast enough to make the $8 per hour. I'm probably at $5. They are going to lose me and my hotel $$ and food $$ and gambling $$.
> > I guess I'll go over to Green Valley Ranch and play. I think that is the closest place that has FPDW.
> > Brad
> > Amarillo
> >
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rob.singer1111" <rob.singer1111@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I look at full-time vp players--if there's really such a thing on quarters--as unmotivated people who really don't have a family life and who are very addicted to the poker machines. Making $8-$12/hr. is something I'd expect for teenagers and isn't anything anyone can make a decent living on. As a supplement it's fine, but there is no such thing as a vp career without playing at much higher limits.
> > >
> > > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "derangedmutant040925" <derangedmutant040925@> wrote:
> > > > You forgot to mention that fulltime VP players are diseased, psychotic, children of felons, and that they killed Jesus. They are also responsible for global warming.
> > > >
> > > > I personally am able to fathom why someone might want to set their own hours, be their own boss, and have to answer to no one while earning $8-12/hr (depending on speed and accuracy) rather than explore the myriad exciting career opportunities available in the fast food industry while earning minimum wage. But that's just me.
> > >
> >
>

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[vpFREE] Re: Maybe Maloof should buy another place.

 

You and I couldn't get any backing, but I am sure Maloof could. But, maybe he wanted to get out of the casino biz.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "caribou321" <caribou321@...> wrote:
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> buy another place? with what? he plowed his Fiesta money into the Palms, and is now left with 2% ownership. Most of that bankroll is gone!
>

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[vpFREE] Talent

 

One of the best quotes I've ever read. In today's Bob Dancer LVA article he quotes an interview with Doyle Brunson from Gambling Wizards where HE quotes Benny Binion. This is beautiful!

"If you got talent, Las Vegas is the land of milk and honey. If you don't, it's a burial ground."

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