Is there any $1 7/10 DB left. Last time I was there the best I could find was 9/6 jacks progressive. Not to bad as I hat a $6000 plus JP at the bar.
First of all, they're 99.43%, not 99.2%. And who were you quoting in
referring to the ""positive" EV for Aces Bonus?" Besides the fact
that with double points, not to mention bounce back, easily earned
buffets, and gifts, they are (barely) over 100%, I was only nitpicking
with the description of 99.43% being "barely" over 99%. And why the
emphasis on "WHEN" the progressives get high enough? Based on most
player's standards, they're almost always high enough. I have to
agree with Frank about being very surprised at the objection there is
to a 104% game just because it's more volatile than other games. So
what? And sometimes they're better than 104%. I still don't get that
"up to." Lastly, don't knock that buffet until you've tried it.
There's a reason for the long lines and high prices.
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Just wanted to say THANKS to HARRAH's and the Rio for holding a fantastic well run tournament!
I wish all the other casinos would take note.
100 winners with a flater pay schedule made everyone happy!
$3500 for 1st, down to $75 for 100th!
The best part... you rebuy and you could win multiple times!
Additional souvenir type prizes for almost everyone!
THANKS!
Harrahs certainly treats it customers well!
OH BOY 13 machines with a 99.2% return!!!
WOW! Aren't they generous!
Just think of all the "free" buffets (1 a day) you can "earn" with a few thousand points of play each day! Not to mention all the gifts they give out. Of course you may have to wait 1/2 hr or more in line, since even top card holders don't get a line pass. But you can never have enough casino clothes or booze can you?
Surely this must figure into your "positive" EV for Aces Bonus.
Or you can play the "up to 104%" money eater progressives WHEN they get high enough. I know one fellow who has hit TWO of those monster Royals! Last one was dealt to him so no player chart required, LOL.
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
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On 7 Jul 2011 at 16:22, moogliest wrote:
> WHERE IS A vpFREE Administrator WHEN WE NEED ONE??? YES I
> AM SHOUTING IT OUT! > This person should be banned or at least
> warned about very negative comments toward someone. This is the
> last post I will ever read from this person.
When members disregard the rules, I generally send them a
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posting.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "caliexile" <nairbtrah1@...> wrote:
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> I mastered 2PJW(FP) using trainers at vpgenius because it is 99.92% at my local casino,
Hi, I don't know you from Adam, so don't get offended by what I have to say, but I can't help but raise my eyebrow at your statement of "mastering" 2PJW. Are you sure? You might want to test yourself on some other software like WinPoker or Video Poker for Winners. Just a suggestion. It's a very difficult game.
That's a good story about giving the money back. You're a good guy, Frank.
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> I wrote a paper on long term a while ago and posted
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Last Sunday the Administrator posted links here to some long term discussions in the vpFREE FAQ. I noticed that one of them was written by you. Maybe this is what you're referring to. http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ_LT.htm#JGZ
Thanks for the honest responses. It sounds like I'm best off filing this
away as a hobby but that a shorter trip or two in person to scout things out
myself and talk to locals is worth it to see just how bad (or good) it is
myself. The vibe I'm getting is that if you're going to make a profit there
is far more work to be done scouting and schmoozing than there was. I'm
going to induce that as a rule the best machines/deals aren't going to be
posted up on vpfree since that knowledge loses its value as it disseminates:
a phenomenon that would be entirely too ironic for me to complain about!
Concerning 100 play, spin play, etc.:
At the indian casinos around San Diego the tables on these are terrible so I
guess I just assumed it was that way everywhere and that the trend is
towards worse tables w/more gimmicks. I did read about how bankroll needed
to eliminate the risk of ruin w/all else being equal is much lower on 100
times play which is expected I just never realized you could find these
w/tables >100%. I suppose in Vegas during cb promotions these could be
valuable for accruing mailers.
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A couple of weeks ago someone posted a link to slotsplaycoupons.com, which was offering $40 in free play coupons for $25 at The Palms for current slot club members. There was also an offer of $50 free play coupons for $25 for new players. Bob and Frank discussed the offer on the radio show.
Since I had not been to Vegas in 10 years I thought I qualified as a new player and purchased that coupon. However The Palms still had my card in the computer and declined the coupon. The slot club personnel said I could email Slots Play Coupons and pointed to a point on the coupon that did not have the email address.
However when I called the company the next day, they had already received a computer message that I had been declined and had already sent me an email offering to refund the $25 or give me the coupon for $40 in free play.
I appreciated that action and was suprised at such a quick resolution without my contacting them.
LA Bum
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Ahh, that link was very interesting. I've never seen that strategy before. Thank you. I can see how a little practice or even a strategy card could help a player with zero experience. It is somewhat more complex and significantly more aggressive than your brief description, though. Note the example was playing a stack of 20bb and jamming a range of AA-QQ, AK in mp with a limper behind. And was just a few points shy (in the strategy)from jamming AA-1010, AK-AQ, KQ.
Playing very tight early in STTs is SOP for many. ICM dictates that you need a significant edge to risk your stack early because you risk all equity while equity gained is small. And you can increase equity significantly just by outlasting a few opponents. Yet as the dynamics of the STT changes and you get into middle and late play it can be surprising for some (it was for me) just how often it is ICM correct to open jam with any 2.
MTTs are a different animal and you need to chip up a lot before you even approach the money, much less take a tournament down. I know I'm going to need to increase my stack many times over to stay relevant and make the money. Risk is not avoidable. Risk is essential.
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Sorry. Kill Phill.
Chandler
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I was going to impress you with my detailed opinions on this subject, but Frank pretty much summed it up very well in just a few words. Basically, if you can't make it to the casinos on a weekly basis (or even more often) to collect on the mail offers they send, it becomes nearly impossible to make any kind of profit at VP.
Also, don't automatically knock games like 100 play and Spin Poker. These multi-line games often afford the player with an opportunity to run huge sums of coin thru with much lower swings compared to running the same coin thru on a high denomination single line game. It still all boils down whether or not the base return of the game + casino rebates makes the game attractive. Some of my best long term plays have been on these types of games.
But yes, you are about 10 - 15 years too late for the real fun.
EE
