[vpFREE] Re: I got scammed on Ultimate X

 

This thread reminds me of "the good old days" when you didn't have to
call security. Security would just show up automatically if someone
seemed to be bothering you while you were playing. Especially if you
were female and the random male would show up and start talking to
you distracting your play. Security would ask if the male was
bothering you, you say yes, and they were removed from the casino
quickly out on their assess never to be seen again.

WTH, now we have TO CALL security! I guess all Security does now is
break up physical fights and run the lost and found. They probably
aren't staffed to do much more than that.

At 06:14 PM 4/23/2013, what7do7you7want wrote:

>The Ultimate X vultures are not a problem
>
>IF they behave and are truly passive.
>
>But when they start to attempt to influence people,
>they are BAD FOR BUSINESS for the casinos and even
>for advantage players. It is PRECISELY these kinds
>of idiots that caused the good banking games to
>disappear. EVERYBODY loses when this goes on.
>
>I say call security and toss them into the back
>alley in the dumpster. Better yet, a one way desert
>tour.
>
>QZ
>
>

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[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 23 APR 2013

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 23 APR 2013

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[vpFREE] Re: I got scammed on Ultimate X

 



The Ultimate X vultures are not a problem

IF they behave and are truly passive.

But when they start to attempt to influence people,
they are BAD FOR BUSINESS for the casinos and even
for advantage players. It is PRECISELY these kinds
of idiots that caused the good banking games to
disappear. EVERYBODY loses when this goes on.

I say call security and toss them into the back
alley in the dumpster. Better yet, a one way desert
tour.

QZ

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vidi0t" <vid@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Someone who plays off found multipliers is an Advantage Player. Someone who scams a niaeve VP player is an A-Hole.
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vpplayer88" <vpplayer88@> wrote:
> >
> > The scammer was trying to generate multipliers on the ultimate x, making it a +ev play for himself. In my opinion, this is no different than an advantage player playing a high progressive vp or slot machine. Some ploppy has to build it up and you take in the ev because of it.
> >
> > The original poster was the one scammed because he believed someone lying to him in a casino. For whatever reason, instead of just learning his lesson, he wants to get this other person banned.
> >
>

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[vpFREE] Re: I got scammed on Ultimate X

 



You have only yourself to blame.

I think their actions are immoral, but that in no way does
that lessen your responsibility to use your brain.

QZ

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Glenn Chee <TedChee@...> wrote:
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> Hope there are casino lurkers reading this so they can bounce these guys.
>
> Scene: Palms playing 10-play quarter VP. Guy comes over from other side of bank to show me how to turn on $500 bonus feature on Ultimate X. Like a fool I follow him to other side where there are two empty seats for Ultimate X. He has me play all the games leaving multipliers with the line that you have to switch every few hands in order to turn on multiplier & you have to switch machines. The gist is I didn't believe him but I went with it & left a lot of multipliers active. He seemed to know how to play & mentioned American Casino Guide so I suckered for it. I realized I was scammed when I got on another forum & someone reported a similar scam involving old ladies.
>
> Decided I had to do something:
> 1. Called Palms Security & gave them all the details of when, where & who.
> 2. Posted this.
> 3. Will be actively looking for this at other casinos & alert their Security.
>
> NB Ultimate X is a video poker game where you can "vulture" active multipliers. I'll leave it to the rest of the forum to explain how that works.
> Sent from my iPad
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[vpFREE] Re: I got scammed

 

Here's another Las Vegas hustle that's been going on since time immemorial.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/23/audit-finds-las-vegas-cab-drivers-overcharged-tourists-15-million-in-2012/

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Hard Rock Las Vegas Downgrade

Great question! Discretionary comps must be real high? I'm a small time player and like I posted I got 3 tix to def leppard including two in row 1.

To: vp[vpFREE] Re: Hard Rock Las Vegas Downgrade

Date: Mon, Apr 22, 2013 4:34 pm

Thanks for letting us know about this.



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[vpFREE] Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 23 APR 2013

 

Bob Dancer's LV Advisor Column - 23 APR 2013

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http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2013/0423.cfm

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RE: [vpFREE] frenzy

 

As someone who has playable DreamCard in my area, the glitch is always with 4s. For some reason, the game will not recognize a pair of 4s as superior to a pair of 5s-10s in bonus games. It will correctly pair 2s and 3s when optimal, but when faced with 4-6-8-10 it will not present the paired 4. You have to manually change it every time. On hands like 2-4-6-8 it will pair the 2.

"On a related subject, Dream Card Poker has (Do not have playable version in
my area so this may have been fixed.) a problem with pairing a higher card
instead of the low card in bonus poker.

Ex: dealt 2468 offsuit + dream card, the machine will pair the 8 rather than
the correct choice of the 2 or 4.Videopoker.com had a bunch of errors with
this that have since been corrected.

Every time the "dream card" appears the machine has an icon on the screen
that you can use to change the "dream card".

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RE: [vpFREE] frenzy

 

"Frenzy" only holds Ace(s) in the bonus portion of the game. (Or deuces in
deuces wild games.) That is how the game plays and has a different paytable
for the bonus game.

For normal casino video poker, most machines can be set to "autohold" by the
casino. Not done very often anymore.

On the vast majority of these, the player can override the decision.

Older IGT products were significantly inaccurate on the auto holds. Newer
IGT are fairly accurate.

WMS machines were awful.

Most video poker machines are set to "auto hold" a dealt royal (I have had
that pleasant surprise twice, once on a Bally product and once on an IGT
product and both "auto held".) and many to do so with other not improvable
jackpot hands.

On a related subject, Dream Card Poker has (Do not have playable version in
my area so this may have been fixed.) a problem with pairing a higher card
instead of the low card in bonus poker.

Ex: dealt 2468 offsuit + dream card, the machine will pair the 8 rather than
the correct choice of the 2 or 4. Videopoker.com had a bunch of errors with
this that have since been corrected.

Every time the "dream card" appears the machine has an icon on the screen
that you can use to change the "dream card".

From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
vprod618
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Subject: [vpFREE] frenzy

I was playing vp "frenzy" triple double bonus....I noticed that if you are
dealt three threes and ace lets say, that is the correct hold. However this
game automacically holds the incorrect three of a kind only. This was on
Videopoker.Com....what happens in a casino setting? Many thanks, Rod....

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[vpFREE] frenzy

 

I was playing vp "frenzy" triple double bonus....I noticed that if you are dealt three threes and ace lets say, that is the correct hold. However this game automacically holds the incorrect three of a kind only. This was on Videopoker.Com....what happens in a casino setting? Many thanks, Rod....

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