[vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....

 

> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory Bart Jr."
> <broncosaurus@...> wrote:
>
> BTW, what are the benefits for the various tiers?

Go here then scroll down and click on "Benefits by Card":
https://boulderstation.sclv.com/en/Gaming/MyBoardingPass.aspx

I can tell you from personal experience that the Chairman/Presidents card is a line pass that will save you a lot of time otherwise spent waiting in line some days at the Red Rock Buffet. And 50% off is nice too.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....

 

   I saw 10/6 DDB at Harrah's Council Bluff's in Iowa a few months ago. It was in the data base. But I was there visiting friend's. I wouldn't advise going there unless you have a real good reason.

Ned C.
The Wild Joker

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From: Albert Pearson <ehpee@rogers.com>
To: "vpFREE@yahoogroups.com" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....


 
9/6 DDB is by defintion full pay. It's not a positive game by any means but it is the best variant of the game that can be found in any quantity.

Regards

A.P.

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From: Dave <haaljo@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 7:43:17 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....

 
Just games over 100% E.V. but not all FP machines as plenty of 99.5%+ E.V. paytables. Nowadays, lot's of gamblers call 9/6 DDB full pay.

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[vpFREE] Re: 388/389 Casinos in N San Diego County

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Tim Warr <timwarr@...> wrote:
>
> Pala is good if you like JOB 25cent single line, but it is smokey.  Pala does have some 6/9 JOB with progressive in the non smoking section, but they are $1.  Valley View has by far the best non-smoking section in SoCal, but from what I remember the video poker selection was small and often short pay.
>

At Valley View I think the best a 25c player can do in non-smoking is play one line of the 100 Play, and then the best choice is 9/6 DDB.

But wander outside non-smoking and the 25c VV player has far more options than Pala. On any of the many scattered Spin Poker simply choose "Play 1 Line" and you get your pick of 9/6 Jacks, 8/5 Bonus, 9/7 DB, 9/6 DDB, 9/7 TDB and NSUD.

I also feel that Valley View's mailer is far superior to Pala. It always includes a daily promotion that gives you a little something, a coupon for $$ off food (or free buffets which are well worth it), some weekly More Play and other small perks.

And by the way, for those California players sensitive to smoke, avoid the Spa Casino in Palm Springs which I feel has the worst air quality of any casino in the state. Even the waitresses way back at the far corner of the buffet complain.

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[vpFREE] Re: hollywood st louis

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Ward Ahders" <warda@...> wrote:
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> As of Dec. 7 the VP machines had not changed and I've updated all the
> entries on the Hollywood St. Louis vpfree2 page to reflect the latest
> machines -
>
> http://www.vpfree2.com/casino/hollywood-casino-st-louis
>
> The comp structure (currently) does not appear to be as good as Harrah's -
> we're still in the process of trying to determine the exact comp / cash back
> structure. They are starting to send out more mailers with some dining
> credits and free slot play - hope to see additional improvements in 2013...
>
> Best of Luck!
>
> Zen4One (Hollywood St. Louis vpfree2 monitor)
>
> _____
Not really sure about comps but there mailers are better than I received from Harrahs The former harrahs sent me $40 per week freeplay . My first new free play from the new hollywood is 110 per week.

> From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> John
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 8:51 PM
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [vpFREE] hollywood st louis
>
>
>
>
> Any info on Hollwood St Louis(old Harrahs)?
> same machines at Harrahs had? easy comps?
>
> thanks
> JAS
>
>
>
>
>
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[vpFREE] Re: hollywood st louis

 



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Ward Ahders" <warda@...> wrote:
>
> As of Dec. 7 the VP machines had not changed and I've updated all the
> entries on the Hollywood St. Louis vpfree2 page to reflect the latest
> machines -
>
> http://www.vpfree2.com/casino/hollywood-casino-st-louis
>
> The comp structure (currently) does not appear to be as good as Harrah's -
> we're still in the process of trying to determine the exact comp / cash back
> structure. They are starting to send out more mailers with some dining
> credits and free slot play - hope to see additional improvements in 2013...
>
> Best of Luck!
>
> Zen4One (Hollywood St. Louis vpfree2 monitor)
>
> _____
Not really sure about comps but there mailers are better than I received from Harrahs The former harrahs sent me $40 per week freeplay . My first new free play from the new hollywood is 110 per week.

> From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> John
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 8:51 PM
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [vpFREE] hollywood st louis
>
>
>
>
> Any info on Hollwood St Louis(old Harrahs)?
> same machines at Harrahs had? easy comps?
>
> thanks
> JAS
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[vpFREE] The term "full pay"

 

In the past I think we referred to common or "standard" schedules, like 9/6 JoB and 9/6 DDB, as "full pay," even though they were below 100%. Full pay didn't always mean positive. I made that point back in 1998 in the original version of The Frugal Gambler. Then when a schedule came up later that upped these common schedules we called them "super pay" or something similar, like 10/6 DDB.

VP has involved over the years so the names we started off weren't always accurate but they became "standard." 9/6 JoB will probably always be considered "full pay." Same with 9/6 DDB. I wouldn't quibble with someone who used these terms.

Of course if you are discussing returns, especially with a newbie player, it might be clearer if you stuck with "technical" terms – "positive" and "negative." A newbie might mistakenly assume that a "full pay" game is always "positive."

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http://queenofcomps.com/
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http://jscott.lvablog.com/

From: Albert Pearson
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 11:42 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....

We can drop the subject now because we both know what we mean. One suggestion I would like to give you is to use the term positive game instead of full pay when you are talking about games that are over %100 instead of invoking a new term such as traditional full pay. Everyone agrees on what a positive game is I think, unless we get into what factors may be added into the base game that may make it positive i.e. double points etc..

Regards

A.P.

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From: jaywilly240 <mailto:wha724%40comcast.net>
To: mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 11:05:57 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....

As Ed McMahon (or maybe Ed impersonators) used to say: You are correct sir. I guess what I was trying to get at is that when we say "full pay", we really mean "traditional full pay."

--- In mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com, Albert Pearson <ehpee@...> wrote:
>
> True enough, but the quantity of the FP version in LV is way higher, and there are only 3 instances of 10/6 reported anywhere else in North America. We have to remember that this isn't a Las Vegas forum, it's a video poker forum. One other thing that should be noted is that in many if not all locations that have 10/6 DDB the comps and cashback/bounceback, would be greatly reduced if you play these machines.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> A.P.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: jaywilly240 <wha724@...>
> To: mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 2:00:10 AM
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....
>
>
> It's true that 9/6 DDB is indeed still considered full pay, even tho the 10/6 version has been around for a while now, and (in LAS anyway) is only about 30% harder to find than its 9/6 cousin. (VPfree2 lists 68 Vegas locations where you can find 9/6, 48 where 10/6 is available.)
>
> --- In mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com, Albert Pearson <ehpee@> wrote:
> >
> > 9/6 DDB is by defintion full pay. It's not a positive game by any means but it is the best variant of the game that can be found in any quantity.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > A.P.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dave <haaljo@>
> > To: mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 7:43:17 PM
> > Subject: [vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....
> >
> >
> > Just games over 100% E.V. but not all FP machines as plenty of 99.5%+ E.V. paytables. Nowadays, lot's of gamblers call 9/6 DDB full pay.
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....

 

We can drop the subject now because we both know what we mean. One suggestion I would like to give you is to use the term positive game instead of full pay when you are talking about games that are over %100 instead of invoking a new term such as traditional full pay. Everyone agrees on what a positive game is I think, unless we get into what factors may be added into the base game that may make it positive i.e. double points etc.. 

Regards

A.P.

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From: jaywilly240 <wha724@comcast.net>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 11:05:57 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....

 
As Ed McMahon (or maybe Ed impersonators) used to say: You are correct sir. I guess what I was trying to get at is that when we say "full pay", we really mean "traditional full pay."

--- In mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com, Albert Pearson <ehpee@...> wrote:
>
> True enough, but the quantity of the FP version in LV is way higher, and there are only 3 instances of 10/6 reported anywhere else in North America. We have to remember that this isn't a Las Vegas forum, it's a video poker forum.  One other thing that should be noted is that in many if not all locations that have 10/6 DDB the comps and cashback/bounceback, would be greatly reduced if you play these machines.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> A.P.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: jaywilly240 <wha724@...>
> To: mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 2:00:10 AM
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....
>
>  
> It's true that 9/6 DDB is indeed still considered full pay, even tho the 10/6 version has been around for a while now, and (in LAS anyway) is only about 30% harder to find than its 9/6 cousin. (VPfree2 lists 68 Vegas locations where you can find 9/6, 48 where 10/6 is available.)
>
> --- In mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com, Albert Pearson <ehpee@> wrote:
> >
> > 9/6 DDB is by defintion full pay. It's not a positive game by any means but it is the best variant of the game that can be found in any quantity.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > A.P.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dave <haaljo@>
> > To: mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 7:43:17 PM
> > Subject: [vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....
> >
> >  
> > Just games over 100% E.V. but not all FP machines as plenty of 99.5%+ E.V. paytables. Nowadays, lot's of gamblers call 9/6 DDB full pay.
> >
>
>
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[vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....

 

I was told by someone at Santa Fe yesterday that according to the meeting held on the 28th that rollover will occur for the next 6 months but might possibly stop for the next period.  One of the reasons cited was the lack of warning, sending out the email on the 27th of Dec...

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: 388/389 Casinos in N San Diego County

 

Pala is good if you like JOB 25cent single line, but it is smokey.  Pala does have some 6/9 JOB with progressive in the non smoking section, but they are $1.  Valley View has by far the best non-smoking section in SoCal, but from what I remember the video poker selection was small and often short pay.

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From: ev_junkie <ev_junkie@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 11:52 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: 388/389 Casinos in N San Diego County


 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, pesach kremen <royalflush2222@...> wrote:
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> There are 4 casinos served by the NCTD buses 388/389 (one goes clockwise, the other counter clockwise, thus I call them the 388/389 Casinos which are Pala, Pauma, Harrah's Rincon, and Valley View( in N San Diego County.  The question is which has the best VP for low level play and which is the best for the non-smoking player.  Any opinions welcomed. Note, figuring in value of the slot club definitely OK. Thanks
>
>
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It's been awhile since I played in SoCal, but Valley View had a non-smoking section at the time. I am not sure what their low level play was like or is like. Rincon has never been good for low level play to my knowledge. Pala might be the best bet for low level play as they at least used to have NSUD. If it is still there, that would be your best bet, but it can be quite smoky there.

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[vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....

 

As Ed McMahon (or maybe Ed impersonators) used to say: You are correct sir. I guess what I was trying to get at is that when we say "full pay", we really mean "traditional full pay."

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Albert Pearson <ehpee@...> wrote:
>
> True enough, but the quantity of the FP version in LV is way higher, and there are only 3 instances of 10/6 reported anywhere else in North America. We have to remember that this isn't a Las Vegas forum, it's a video poker forum.  One other thing that should be noted is that in many if not all locations that have 10/6 DDB the comps and cashback/bounceback, would be greatly reduced if you play these machines.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> A.P.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: jaywilly240 <wha724@...>
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 2:00:10 AM
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....
>
>  
> It's true that 9/6 DDB is indeed still considered full pay, even tho the 10/6 version has been around for a while now, and (in LAS anyway) is only about 30% harder to find than its 9/6 cousin. (VPfree2 lists 68 Vegas locations where you can find 9/6, 48 where 10/6 is available.)
>
> --- In mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com, Albert Pearson <ehpee@> wrote:
> >
> > 9/6 DDB is by defintion full pay. It's not a positive game by any means but it is the best variant of the game that can be found in any quantity.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > A.P.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dave <haaljo@>
> > To: mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 7:43:17 PM
> > Subject: [vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....
> >
> >  
> > Just games over 100% E.V. but not all FP machines as plenty of 99.5%+ E.V. paytables. Nowadays, lot's of gamblers call 9/6 DDB full pay.
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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[vpFREE] LVA Question of the Day - 30 DEC 2012

 

LVA Question of the Day - 30 DEC 2012

Q: Is there any news on the big development project next to
the M that was announced earlier this year?

Read the answer here:

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/qod.cfm

NOTE: vpFREE access to the Question of the Day link has
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for non-LVA members.

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....

 

True enough, but the quantity of the FP version in LV is way higher, and there are only 3 instances of 10/6 reported anywhere else in North America. We have to remember that this isn't a Las Vegas forum, it's a video poker forum.  One other thing that should be noted is that in many if not all locations that have 10/6 DDB the comps and cashback/bounceback, would be greatly reduced if you play these machines.

Regards

A.P.

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From: jaywilly240 <wha724@comcast.net>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 2:00:10 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....

 
It's true that 9/6 DDB is indeed still considered full pay, even tho the 10/6 version has been around for a while now, and (in LAS anyway) is only about 30% harder to find than its 9/6 cousin. (VPfree2 lists 68 Vegas locations where you can find 9/6, 48 where 10/6 is available.)

--- In mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com, Albert Pearson <ehpee@...> wrote:
>
> 9/6 DDB is by defintion full pay. It's not a positive game by any means but it is the best variant of the game that can be found in any quantity.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> A.P.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dave <haaljo@...>
> To: mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 7:43:17 PM
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: No more Stations rollover credits....
>
>  
> Just games over 100% E.V. but not all FP machines as plenty of 99.5%+ E.V. paytables. Nowadays, lot's of gamblers call 9/6 DDB full pay.
>

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