RE: [vpFREE] Re: Informal, SERIOUS survey on Quick Quads

 

Like using Newton's method for solving equations my 0.1% chance at a cheating machine is only a guess, granted but you need to start someplace. The other bone of contention was that I did the analysis in the wrong order doesn't matter - basically Bayes theorem states that the probability that event A happens given event B is the probability of both A and B occurring divided by the probability of B occurring. This is what I did. To ignore evidence because you didn't think of it beforehand is foolish. It happened, just ask dje59. I believe him. Personal note to dje59 - make sure where you are playing the regulations require honest machines (every undealt card before or after the draw is equally likely to occur). In the old days (I'm dating myself) on reel slots every stop on each reel had to have an equal chance of occurring. I found a machine where with those rules I had at least a 50% edge. I played, I got crushed - at least 7 standard deviations to the left I was convinced I was cheated. I was cheated - legally!! when writing to gaming I was informed that the law requiring fairness on reel slots was recently changed. My words 'cheating is now legal on reel slots'. Thanks for telling me after the fact.

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Bob Dancer's LVA - 27 MAY 2014

 

Bob wrote: "But even if you know what that number, it's easy to surpass it "all at once.""

If you play the regular games, single line video poker, then the big jackpot is the royal flush (maybe sometimes Aces with a kicker or royal deuces) and most casinos will tolerate one royal per trip, so the solution is to walk if you hit a royal. On the multiplays and multiplier games the big hit is a dealt hand or big multiplier hand and probably exceeds the casino's tolerance level anyway, so on those games you're pretty much playing until you get kicked out. It seems a lot of times the casino is unaware of what the maximum payout is on some of the newer games and they are not very happy about it when they find out. Casinos really hate making the big payouts, on the slots many or even all of the big jackpots are paid by the vendors not the casino. The casino is afraid to book the big action, they don't look far enough ahead, so if something big hits it ruins the week or the month and people get fired. Vendors aren't afraid to book the big action, the IGT megakeno and megabucks and megajackpots hit all the time.

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[vpFREE] New rule on point multipliers at Orleans/Gold Coast?

 

From the B Connected web site:


Participants may earn a bonus point multiplier on Fridays and Saturdays during the Promotion from 3:00am to 11:59pm. The bonus point multiplier is open to all B Connected members at Suncoast and Sam's Town Las Vegas. Local B Connected participants with their mailing address in the zip code range of 890-891 may qualify for the point multiplier at The Orleans and Gold Coast. Participants must swipe at the kiosk to activate the bonus point multiplier. Management reserves all rights. See B Connected Club for details.


G'luck all,

Gamb00ler


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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Informal, SERIOUS survey on Quick Quads

 

Thanks, Bob, you were one of the people I was hoping to hear from, so sounds like your results are as normal.  I guess I'll let this be the last word on this.  As I stated, it isn't just that 4OAK's that bothering me.  Last nite was typical results of lately.  15,000+ hands, so 150 or so flops.  One (very rare (for me lately) dealt QQ.  Of course no dealt 4AOK.  Results, pretty good loss.  Also had 3/A - no 4th.  Previously had 13 B4 one showed up.  Not to say I haven't had A's.  During that run had 1 A, ended up w 4/K..., last nite, held 1, ended up w/4.


Hard to believe they'd take a chance at getting caught,  Going to try to contact gaming this week outside of casino.  Don't know how long I'll keep this up, but it SHOULD be the best deal going around here.  I'll report back on results if anything to report.

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[vpFREE] Casinos that match another casino's free play offer

 

I received a mailer from the Island View casino in Gulfport, MS that reads "bring in any valid cash or free slot play coupon from another MS, LA or AL casino to our player's club and we'll give you 2X that amount in FREE slot play - up to $500 total."  I have a free-play coupon from Harrah's Gulf Coast (formerly the Grand) that you insert into the machine along with your players card to receive the free play.
 
My question is this - do casino's typically confiscate the competing offer coupon on these types of offers or are you able to keep the coupon and still use it at the issuing casino?  If you get to keep the coupon, I assume that you would then receive the equivalent of three times that amount between the two casinos.  Not a bad deal if it is possible.
 
 
 

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Re: [vpFREE] Re: Informal, SERIOUS survey on Quick Quads

 

Steve Norden wrote:

>For the player who played 2900 original hands of QQ without a dealt quad. Let's say that before he played those hands he estimated a 99.9% chance that the game is honest and a 0.1% chance that he is being cheated. If the game is honest he would go 2900 hands without a dealt quad about once in 1100. Without going into deep math Bayes Theorem would say that the chance that the game is honest after going 2900 hands without a dealt quad=((1/1100)/((1/1100)+(1/1000)))=10/21=47.6%. - WOW!

But, besides the .1% being a blind guess which could be off by many
factors of ten, that's being completely selective in choosing the
criterion. To use Bayes Theorem, first establish the criterion, then
record results, then analyze them.

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