--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Tom Robertson <007@...> wrote:
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> Barf Bag <barf_bag_007@...> wrote:
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> > He's rightfully grouchy because instead of other people just addressing his concern, they have to start throwing in the digs.
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> I don't know how anyone would address his concern. No one can prove that the machines aren't gaffed and his report of believing that some players, collectively, went a few cycles without hitting a royal doesn't prove they are. His claim of being able to play 3000 hands an hour, casually, on one single line machine destroys the credibility of his whole story.
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This is the same story we see periodically. Someone posts that a machine or machines are set to pay off less than the paytable would indicate. They provide some minimal, anecodotal statements to try and support their argument and get mad when anyone challenges their statement.
Here's what vp_nbi has stated so far:
1) When playing casually I crank out about 3k hands per hour. When
focused even more. And over most of the time in question there was
at least one other player matching or exceeding my speed.
3000 hands an hour on a single line machine? If the machine is at its fastest setting and you just hit deal/draw deal/draw for an hour, I don't think you could get 3000 hands in. And he says this is casual play, he could play faster and at least one other player plays as fast. I don't believe that. Maybe on a 5 play machine.
2) He went 2 cycles without a royal. That happens all the time. Take a look at progressives. With a .25% meter, if the royal is at $1250, you have gone 80,000 hands without a royal. $1250 progressives happen a lot.
3) Nobody else is hitting royals either. How do you know that? All you are doing is taking what people say.
The only way to tell is the machines are playing fairly is to play a lot of hands, record the results carefully and analyze the data.
If 3 people playing accurately record their results and each goes 200,000 hands without a royal, you may have found unfair machines.
One person who claims to have played 80,000 hands with no royal (and also claims to play ove 3000 hands per hour) is not an indication of anything except bad data collection.
