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If u are correct then there are no rights of any kind. It would seem to be fair that everyone should be given the chance to be as healthy as anyone else. While many medical problems are preventable (smoking, for example)many are not. Health care should be like the police dept or the library, paid by taxes, not a matter of ones financial success or lack thereof. HR676 would cost employer/employe 4.75% each and a small tax on the upper 1% of earners. If you take a person earning 50K, 4.75% = $2,375. For example, accordinging to many I have "good" insurance but here is what I pay, dental $50 deductible, 50% co pay on an implant (and I take good care of my teeth but as you get older you need dental work) costing at least $1250 out of pocket due insurance covering 50%, $15 per MD visit @ 4 x's per year for (age 58), prescription co pays, about $120/year, $75 pe rmonth = $600 per year deducted from my paycheck for health care, $100 co pay for progressive lenses (bi focals not
workeable for me), and my employer pays out about $6000 for me which if we split this qually my Company could save $6,000 - $2375 = $3625 which if we split it half for them half for me I owuld get more per year. There is no way that single payer would not be an improvement over our present system. Note 50% of bankruptcies are due medical bills.

By the way, if you are not alreayd aware another hospital in Vegas has now been reported for reusing syringes, etc. it is one thing that years ago they were put in a sterilizer of extremely hot water and sterilized for reuse but this wasn;t the case here.

Socialized medicine is a good thing, we have just been brainwashed to oppose it!

Richard Boozer <reboozer@yahoo.com> wrote:
Medical care along with many other so called "rights"
are NOT rights at all but "rights" created in some
peoples imagination and fantasies.

--- pesach kremen <royalflush2222@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Not true. The quality of health care in developed
> single payer countries is better without all the
> hassles of deductibles, co -pays, insurance company
> approvals, denials, adn discrimination against the
> lesser affluent.
> The propsed tax increase to fund HR676 per person
> would be less than what we pay now out of pocket and
> would save corpoartions millions which could be
> divided between the shareholders and the workers.
> Medical care is a right and should never be for
> profit! The example in Vegas is just one case where
> putting profit b4 patients has been a disaster.
> Richard Boozer <reboozer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> When you remove incentives the "quality" goes to
> hell.
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> --- pesach kremen <royalflush2222@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > It would be good if "profit" would be removed from
> > health care. We need HR676 single payer where the
> > health care is not for profit.
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