The changing of the order of the deal cards by mid shoe entry has no affect on the house vs. player outcome except in the mind of the superstitious player and the minimal change due to an additional player. My biggest run was in Elko when two novice players entered mid shoe and sat on third and the position to his right. Every bad play resulted in a win for me. This "luck" continued for an hour until they and I left.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Rprosdc <rprosdc@...> wrote:
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> I made no statement about math ... in any of the posts in this thread.
> Please don't put words in my virtual mouth. For what it is worth, I agree
> that the play of other individuals at the table, in the long run, has no
> impact on my success. As long as they don't jump into the game mid-shoe.
>
> What I object to, and did comment on, was mid-shoe entry...it is the
> intrusion into the shoe that bothers me ... not the "good" or "bad" play
> that the intruder exhibits. It is a matter of BJ etiquette.
>
> I know the industry came up the mid-shoe entry bar to prevent "Wonging".
> Every now and then the suits make an error that hurts them and helps
> players...barring mid-shoe entry was one of them.
>
>
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> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:12 PM, 007 <007@...> wrote:
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> > **
> >
> >
> > Rprosdc wrote:
> >
> > >My post was a serious comment, based on many years of serious BJ play.
> >
> > I understand the "feeling of comraderie" on a blackjack table. I've
> > experienced it and, although I've almost never played craps, from the
> > screams I hear every so often, I'm sure it happens there, too. I have
> > a certain objection to a newcomer interfering with that feeling, also.
> > But you're also making a statement about mathematics that ma18ks and I
> > disagree with. When you wrote that "all of a sudden some rube plops
> >
> > down and makes an outlandish bet or play that effectively the tables'
> > luck," I assume "changes" should have come after "effectively" and
> > "worse" was implied. Maybe, a few times when you've experienced this
> > change in feeling, your luck also changed for the worse. Do you have
> > a theory for how that happened? Can you show, scientifically, that
> > the change in mood and the change in luck wasn't a coincidence? Might
> > the change in luck have caused the change in feeling? Doesn't the
> > theory that such things have no correlation, so that luck would change
> > for the better after such a change in mood as often as it changed for
> > the worse, even if, in your experience, it has always changed for the
> > worse, make intuitive sense to you? If a scientific study were made
> > after, say, 1000 such mood worsenings, how many of them would show a
> > worsening of luck? ma18ks and I would estimate 500.
> >
> >
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