RE: [vpFREE] Re: More on Bill Zender

No offense, but if I walk up to a BJ table with an empty seat and I want to play, I'm taking the seat and joining the action if I already have chips without regard to the status of the shoe. You'll never be able to convince me that doing that disrupts the "flow" (whatever you mean by that term) in any way. If I walk up with chips, sit down, and make my wager I guarantee it won't impact the speed with which that hand is dealt. If someone doing that is all it takes to knock you off your rhythm and negatively impact your overall enjoyment of the game, I would submit that the problem doesn't lie with the person joining the game midshoe. Walking-up with cash and buying-in midshoe, on the other hand, has always struck me as rude. Not as rude as buying-in midroll on a craps table, but rude nonetheless. It doesn't bother me much at the BJ table, but I get why it does bother others. It doesn't impact the bottom line in any predictable way, but if it negatively impacts your enjoyment of the game I understand it. And FWIW some of the most enjoyable runs at BJ tables I have ever had involved drunk and bling festooned 20-somethings staggering in and out of the action. Never underestimate the entertainment value of people watching at casinos. And never underestimate the value of having other people at a table drawing virtually 100% of the attention of the casino when you are counting cards.
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: rprosdc@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:42:27 -0400
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: More on Bill Zender

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:08 PM, jwboothjw <traveller88888@hotmail.com>wrote:

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> "only to have some drunk or bling festooned 20-something stagger up to tour

> table and disrupt its flow..."

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> "flow" is Voodoo.

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I am saddened to learn that you've never been at a friendly table where

players, dealers and sometimes even the house are having a good time.. Some

may be winning, some losing ...but all are having an enjoyable session. You

may call it "voodoo" but it actually does happen ... and it is easily

disrupted by the sorts of anti-social intrusion I mentioned.

> In one of your first posts you clearly state that someone entering

> mid-shoe creates bad luck (or words clearly to that effect).

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No I said "effectively the tables luck". I erroneously left out the word

"changes", an error caught earlier by another reader. I did not suggest that

the luck changed for the better or worse -- my point was, and is, that such

ad hoc intrusions inevitably alter the hands dealt after the intrusion.

But I followed that up (and closed) with:

"It should be a matter of common courtesy. If I see a seat at table that I

want to join, I wait until the next shoe to start playing....unless invited

to join by those already in the game."

Finally you accuse me of grumbling that "the"flow" has been "disrupted""

I plead guilty to that charge --- although you wish to perjoratively

characterize respect for other players as "voodoo".

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