I definitely agree that he did not feel like an idiot when he collected his 23 pictures of Mr. Franklin...
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nudge51" <nudge51@...> wrote:
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: The New Progressives At The M
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> Who was the idiot playing the Double Bonus?
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@> wrote:
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> > 3 Royals hit today that I'm aware of.
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> > $2,300 Double Bonus
> > $4,300 Joker KoB
> > $4,100 Super Double Bonus
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> Why would he be the "idiot"? Based on the reported $4,300 & $2,300 royals
> for KBJW and DB respectively, the joker definitely had an expected return of
> almost exactly 4% higher than the DB. Most people in this group will likely
> agree that VP is mathematics, but certainly more than a single calculation.
> In the two games above at the level that they were hit, the joker player was
> fighting a variance number of 340, while the DB player only 120, just a bit
> more than 1/3 the joker game. The royal cycle, another consideration while
> playing progressives,was 10 percent more hands for the KBJW game (just like
> most wild card games) than was the cycle for the DB game. If you consider
> limiting your play on either game to five or six hours, the likelihood of
> hitting the top two payoffs in either game is severely reduced. In KBJW,
> without a royal or a five of a kind, the average long term hourly loss for
> an 800 HPH player will be around $80. For the DB player who does not score
> a royal or a straight flush, considerably less, at around $68.50 per hour.
> I am not making any judgments on anything here, but as has been posted many
> times , return is not the only consideration for making a game choice. For
> those with limited finances, bankroll protection is a big factor if you are
> just taking a limited shot at a progressive. I play a lot on progressive
> games, and I will usually ponder all of the above variables when choosing
> a game. There are many play by the seat of your pants progressive players
> out there that none of the above will apply to. These are the folks that,
> when you mention EV, they may think that you are referring to the oil that
> Rachael Ray adds to her salads. I assume that most of our members are above
> that talent level. Not knowing the player who was hit by the DB royal, and
> therefore having no clue as to their goals, how can we judge an intelligence
> level? They may have been thinking that playing a game that has a similar
> return to JOB, close to break even without the mailer, may improve their BB.
> One thing I am sure of is that the person who walked with the $2,300 hand
> pay probably does not consider themselves an idiot.
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> Nudge
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