games which they know the best. While I might be able to play JoB nearly
perfect and only give up .4% in equity long term (just an example), that
doesn't mean I should play a machine that is theoretically 102% vs 99.7% of
JoB if I can only play a game on the 102% at 98% in actual return. Some
games are much more difficult to master.
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:03 PM, mike <melbedewy1226@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I definitely agree that he did not feel like an idiot when he collected his
> 23 pictures of Mr. Franklin...
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nudge51" <nudge51@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mike
> > Subject: [vpFREE] Re: The New Progressives At The M
> >
> > Who was the idiot playing the Double Bonus?
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 3 Royals hit today that I'm aware of.
> > >
> > > $2,300 Double Bonus
> > > $4,300 Joker KoB
> > > $4,100 Super Double Bonus
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > Why would he be the "idiot"? Based on the reported $4,300 & $2,300 royals
>
> > for KBJW and DB respectively, the joker definitely had an expected return
> of
> > almost exactly 4% higher than the DB. Most people in this group will
> likely
> > agree that VP is mathematics, but certainly more than a single
> calculation.
> > In the two games above at the level that they were hit, the joker player
> was
> > fighting a variance number of 340, while the DB player only 120, just a
> bit
> > more than 1/3 the joker game. The royal cycle, another consideration
> while
> > playing progressives,was 10 percent more hands for the KBJW game (just
> like
> > most wild card games) than was the cycle for the DB game. If you consider
>
> > limiting your play on either game to five or six hours, the likelihood of
>
> > hitting the top two payoffs in either game is severely reduced. In KBJW,
> > without a royal or a five of a kind, the average long term hourly loss
> for
> > an 800 HPH player will be around $80. For the DB player who does not
> score
> > a royal or a straight flush, considerably less, at around $68.50 per
> hour.
> > I am not making any judgments on anything here, but as has been posted
> many
> > times , return is not the only consideration for making a game choice.
> For
> > those with limited finances, bankroll protection is a big factor if you
> are
> > just taking a limited shot at a progressive. I play a lot on progressive
> > games, and I will usually ponder all of the above variables when choosing
>
> > a game. There are many play by the seat of your pants progressive players
>
> > out there that none of the above will apply to. These are the folks that,
>
> > when you mention EV, they may think that you are referring to the oil
> that
> > Rachael Ray adds to her salads. I assume that most of our members are
> above
> > that talent level. Not knowing the player who was hit by the DB royal,
> and
> > therefore having no clue as to their goals, how can we judge an
> intelligence
> > level? They may have been thinking that playing a game that has a similar
>
> > return to JOB, close to break even without the mailer, may improve their
> BB.
> > One thing I am sure of is that the person who walked with the $2,300 hand
>
> > pay probably does not consider themselves an idiot.
> >
> > Nudge
> >
>
>
>
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