I was wondering if anybody thought about approaching the Gaming Commission on this issue. Although I can't be absolutely sure, I do not remember being informed of the sixty day limitation. However, it could have been on the (receipt) ticket stub and I just did not notice.
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From: Joel Fink <joel0457@yahoo.
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2008 1:21:58 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] The Wizard of Odds: Las Vegas Casino Blacklist
You can make whatever legal argument you want. The bottom line is that an expiration in unfair to consumers and the purpose is strictly to rip off the customer. There is no other reason for their to be an expiration. The casinos should be happy that they get to use your money interest free.
The first time I was told that there was an expiration when I tried to cancel an expired ticket I was amazed. Since that time I have left Vegas on several occasions with a small uncashed ticket. In each instance the casino cashed the expired ticket without asking question.
----- Original Message ----
From: Curtis Rich <LGTVegas@gmail. com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2008 5:02:34 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] The Wizard of Odds: Las Vegas Casino Blacklist
Hey, tralfamidorgooglycr ackers! This is fun! :-)
You wrote: "....I owe you three thousand bucks. However, we
live in different cities. So I tell you that you will have to submit
a claim to me for this money I owe you, and if you don't do so
within sixty days, too bad---you're S.O.L. Go away, and don't
bother me. If for whatever reason, you didn't attempt to collect
this LEGITIMATE debt by then, and I told you, too bad, I ain't
payin' ya, would YOU be happy? Would YOU just walk away
and say, oh well???"
My replies
1) If I didn't agree to the terms, I wouldn't have made the bet.
2) If I did agree to the terms, I would have honored them.
3) If I failed to honor the terms, I would be S.O.L.
You wrote: "The key concept is that the deadline on the
ticket is NOT, repeat NOT, a contract. The wagering transaction
occurs before the customer reads the resulting ticket (which
is only a receipt, NOT a contract). The only way that the time
restriction would be valid is if it were EXPLICITLY EXPLAINED
to the customer BEFORE the wager was placed and accepted.
A material condition of a contract that is not spelled out at the
time the contract is made is VOID."
My replies:
1) First you state that the ticket is a receipt, NOT a contract.
But, then you go on to state that the "contract" is void because
a material condition of the "contract" was not spelled out at the
time the "contract" was made.
2) I'm not as sure as you are that sports books do not inform
customers of their policies before processing wagers.
You wrote: "Is welching and thereby saving three grand WORTH
the ill will that doing so engenders, and will engender as word
spreads????"
My reply:
Apparently, Stratosphere thinks it is. But, if I owned a casino,
I would not.
Curtis
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