Poker Poker Poker!: Re: [vpFREE] Maniac at Stations

I'm not aware of anything at Station casinos that would bring in $20 per hour without benefits. 25 cent full pay deuces played perfectly at 1200 hands per hour will get you $11.40. How long could you maintain that pace with that level of accuracy, and could you justify the work involved in keeping the guy out . If you were a casino manager would you bother reading the trespass act to someone

who is going to hit you for $50 dollars a day ? Maybe some little grind joint, but certainly not a big operation like Station's.

Remember I said it was a rare occurrence not an impossible one.

Regards

A.P.

From: "James Beam funny.young.guy@gmail.com [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
To: "vpFREE@yahoogroups.com" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 1:28:00 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Maniac at Stations

that's not 100% true though. even after all that you *can* be a threat to the casino. The way this guy was playing, I assume he'd be in +EV of about $20/hour. While that wont bankrupt Stations, it's not exactly nothing either.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Albert Pearson ehpee@rogers.com [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

It is rare for a casino to 86 a video poker player.

They usually do the following.

First thing is you get lower level mailers.

Next thing is you get no mailers whatsoever.
Finally you will find that your slot card has been invalidated.

When all of the above have been implemented you can no longer be a threat to the casino, so there is no need to trespass you.
If you are an advantage player, you will find a happier hunting
ground and leave on your own accord.

Regards

A.P.

From: "James Beam funny.young.guy@gmail.com [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
To: "vpFREE@yahoogroups.com" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 1:17:25 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Maniac at Stations

I'm OK with the lack of mailers. But my question was more about being backed-off and/or 86d. This used to happen to me all the time as a card-counter. So I assumed that the same would apply to VP players. It was blatantly obvious what he was doing. Stations will eventually kick him out . . . right?

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Albert Pearson ehpee@rogers.com [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I would imagine that the player in question doesn't receive the top level mailers from the property. Isn't that the action taken by most Las Vegas casinos these days ?

A.P.

From: "James Beam funny.young.guy@gmail.com [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
To: "vpFREE@yahoogroups.com" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 11:47:26 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Maniac at Stations

I was at a Stations recently and I saw a player at the 100%+ machines. He was seated between two machines, playing both at the same time, with a Boarding Pass in each machine. And he played *fast*, banging away on the buttons like a maniac (on both machines). He was frantic enough where people would stop and stare for a bit, myself included. As far as I can tell, he didn't make any mistakes and it was impressive for the speed and two machines.

Whatever is the *opposite* of "under the radar" or "discrete", is what this guy was. It was no secret what he was doing.

I thought that this type of play was discouraged by Stations? I thought that this kind of play would get you backed off? He was there for at least 2 hours, so I don't think it was a lack of opportunity on Station's part.

Is Stations more tolerant than I assumed to this kind of play?