Picking up on an earlier thread to add a couple of anecdotal remarks ...
I played my first session of QQ (BP) last week after contemplating such a session for some time. (Until now, I've deemed the game a little more volatile than suited for my general tastes ... that's not too say that I shy away from variance -- I'm quite comfortable with single line $1 10/7 DB and $1 10/6 DDB.)
The outcome, with $40k coin-in playing 15 hands of $.25 QQ BP is that I got my hat handed to me with some vengeance. I took a $4800 loss -- sufficient to turn a $100k coin-in day from a $1400 win to a $3400 loss. Suffice it to say I'd wish I'd stuck with std multiline Jacks. (And I'll add that 15-20 lines of $.25 std BP is a relative walk in the park.)
I get that QQ smooths out over more extended play. But over the course of a single session, it's clear to me that it involves more volatility than my typical $1 single line play, on which I can largely bank on generally positive results in the fairly short term. As such, it's not likely to find a place in my regular play for now.
(Down the road, as my bankroll grows and I get more comfortable at the $5 single line level, look for me to return to the game :)
- H.
---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <harry.porter@...> wrote:
I played my first session of QQ (BP) last week after contemplating such a session for some time. (Until now, I've deemed the game a little more volatile than suited for my general tastes ... that's not too say that I shy away from variance -- I'm quite comfortable with single line $1 10/7 DB and $1 10/6 DDB.)
The outcome, with $40k coin-in playing 15 hands of $.25 QQ BP is that I got my hat handed to me with some vengeance. I took a $4800 loss -- sufficient to turn a $100k coin-in day from a $1400 win to a $3400 loss. Suffice it to say I'd wish I'd stuck with std multiline Jacks. (And I'll add that 15-20 lines of $.25 std BP is a relative walk in the park.)
I get that QQ smooths out over more extended play. But over the course of a single session, it's clear to me that it involves more volatility than my typical $1 single line play, on which I can largely bank on generally positive results in the fairly short term. As such, it's not likely to find a place in my regular play for now.
(Down the road, as my bankroll grows and I get more comfortable at the $5 single line level, look for me to return to the game :)
- H.
---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <harry.porter@...> wrote:
Taking a few minutes to bone up, what Bob suggests is true (no surprise there). Qq-ddb var is about on par with the base game , JB-QQ adds about a 10% boost.
Bear in mind 2 things ....
Absolute. $ swings will be another 20% stronger, simply reflecting the higher game wager (ignored in the variance stat).
Also, variance is a relatively weak measure of session volatility, but a strong measure of long term volatility. Look for QQ session volatility to be stronger than what the variance stat would suggest, simply because session results are far from "normally" distributed (i.e. The take a form strikingly diggerent than the smooth hump presumed of normally distributed data).
- H.
Bear in mind 2 things ....
Absolute. $ swings will be another 20% stronger, simply reflecting the higher game wager (ignored in the variance stat).
Also, variance is a relatively weak measure of session volatility, but a strong measure of long term volatility. Look for QQ session volatility to be stronger than what the variance stat would suggest, simply because session results are far from "normally" distributed (i.e. The take a form strikingly diggerent than the smooth hump presumed of normally distributed data).
- H.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dancer wrote:
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