Great analysis! You hit the nail right on the head.
> To: vpfree@yahoogroups.com
> From: smellypuppy@hotmail.com
> Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 08:58:43 -0700
> Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Illegality, immorality and cheating
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> Adultery Is illegal in many states, just to clarify.
> Many of the analogies presented on this topic to test legality or morality fall short in one or multiple areas.
> We can only weigh in on whether what these people did is cheating and to the point of is it wrong.
> I think everyone will agree that cheating is wrong. However, even this with specific examples will have gray areas, but please let's start simple.
> Did these people cheat?
> Cheating requires intentional deception and yes what they did repeatedly was intentional, but the issue I have is the deception part. They were lying through omission to the manufacturer and casinos about the defective software (not an ATM glitch that occurs 1 in 5,000,000 times). This seems like a stretch that patrons are responsible for integrity reporting on the software code. I at least think that video poker is between player and machine regardless of manufacturer or location, so the person needs to be deceiving the machine. This is the crux of the issue. The software was doing exactly as it was programmed. This makes it similar to Mickey's example of a progressive reset to a much higher base or Bob's example of a much higher than is supposed to be comp rate for that game; however, in this instance far more money is involved and the defect was more difficult to find. Are any of these situations wrong, maybe. Are they cheating? I do not see how that can be the case. The software had a flaw in its programming these people did not cheat the machine.
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> From: decca@shaw.ca
> Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 13:47:11 +0000
> Subject: [vpFREE] Illegality, immorality and cheating
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> Illegality depends on the specific wording of the appropriate statute. If a statute is poorly written or ambiguous, a defendant may be acquitted even though most people believe that what he did was "illegal".
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> Immorality depends on one's personal code of ethics. To a vegetarian, eating meat may be immoral. To a meat-eater, not so much.
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> Cheating may be illegal, immoral or neither. Cheating on one's taxes is illegal but many people don't seem to think it is wrong. Cheating on one's spouse is not illegal, but most people believe it is wrong. Playing vp with a cheat sheet (strategy card) is not illegal and even the casinos don't seem to think that it is wrong.
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> Nestor and Kane are alleged to have asked the casinos to enable the double-up feature on machines that did not have the feature enabled. The double-up feature was an essential ingredient that allowed them to take advantage of the flaw and reap payouts that were ten times larger than their actual wins. Illegal? Who knows? But it should be no surprise that casinos will do everything in their power to convince the authorities to prosecute anyone who tries to do this.
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