I think we are in agreement. As Tom pointed out, my original statement was not completely defined. I should have said: if you play till the progressive is hit, AND all or most of the other machines are also being played simultaneously in a similar manner, no slow playing, then you can count the full meter progression rate in your EV, otherwise you are likely only getting a fraction of the rate, for example if you pump it up alone and a team comes in later at a higher number to snap it off.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
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> I think you misunderstood Tom, nightoftheiguana2000.
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> He was saying the first cycle he played was unopposed (not shared) and then 5 other players piled on.
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> When everyone starts at the same time meter-rise is not shared, it counts full. Because though they can hit it away from you they are also adding to it. Their chance to hit the JP is perfectly counterbalanced by their contribution to it.
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> Someone getting on after you at a higher number is a completely different situation.
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> This is covered in my book under the subheading, "Getting Snapped Off".
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> ~FK
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@> wrote:
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> > Because in that situation you're sharing your first cycle of meter rise with 5 others, so you only get 1/6 of the meter rate of the first cycle for the times that you don't hit the jackpot in the first cycle. And as you said previously this assumes everyone plays about the same rate with about the same strategy, which might or might not be the case. Some players might be slow playing or siting at a machine reading a book waiting for a higher number, and so on.
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