No. It's 1 out of 15 for the deal multiplier, and 1 out of 15 for the draw
multiplier. Trust me. I know.
If you get ANY multiplier on ANY dealt hand, you get a royal pay at 20x.
Trust me, I know.
The odds of being dealt a royal is (combin(52,5)/4) times being given a
multiplier on the draw (15) which turns out to be 9,746,100 games. Every
9,746,100 games, you are awarded 4000*20=80,000 credits. Thus the
contribution is probability times pay, which turns out to be
(1/9746100) * 80000 / 7 ~ .117%.
(You divide by 7 because you are placing a 7 coin bet to win 80,000).
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Howard W. Stern <
howard.w.stern@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> Not quite true. The original game had average multipliers of 4.05 and shows
> up on an average of once every 15 plays so per every 18 plays you get 18.05
> times the shown pay table. this adds between 0.27% and 0.28%.
>
> Double Super Times pay has average multipliers of 4.01 so you are only
> gaining about 0.06% not counting the dealt royal. Remember that you are
> paying an extra coin per line on both the deal and the draw segments.
>
> The dealt royal is mis-explained and mis-handled at videopoker.com. I
> believe that you get 10x only if the multiplier was going to come up either
> on the deal or draw and thus 20x only if it was going to come up on both
> the
> deal and draw.
>
> (My home casino does not have this game so if somebody gets a good look at
> the real help screen, please confirm one way or the other.)
>
> I have never gotten a dealt royal on a multi-line game (I have had them
> twice on $1 single-line progressives.)
>
> For those that played this at videopoker.com did you ever see a multiplier
> show up on the draw when you stood pat with something less than a royal
> flush?
>
> Note: As most people here know the dealt royal is actually one in 649,740
> dealt hands but hitting a dealt royal with both 10x's if I understand it
> right is once every 225 dealt royals. An calculation of the add-on for this
> is 5.99*800=4792/(4873050*7/5) or about 0.07%.
>
> If the dealt royal was always 10x and 10x would add almost
> 18.6*800=14880/649740 or a little over 2.3% which using the pay tables
> should at videopoker.com would be quite a bit over 100% EV.
>
> From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Jason Pawloski
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:38 PM
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Question about Double Super Times Pay
>
>
> The feature itself adds the same amount as the normal super times pay. So
> if
> the original STP adds 1/4% then this will add 1/2%. I'm going off the top
> of
> my head, but I don't remember it adding that much. But since draw
> multiplier
> has the same probability and the same multiplier distribution as the deal,
> the payback is just doubled.
>
> But there's a hitch. Somewhere hidden in the help screens, it says that a
> *dealt* royal flush with any *deal* multiplier awards the royal at 20x. The
> cycle on that is in the millions but it does add a non-trivial amount to
> the
> final payback.
> I'm personally a huge fan of this game. Hit a straight flush with a 5x a
> couple of times. It's a lot more exciting in my mind than STP, which I
> never
> really got into. If you get dealt a good-to-monster hand, there's the added
> excitement that you still might get a (better) multiplier.
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:23 PM, bobbartop <bobbartop@yahoo.com
> <mailto:bobbartop%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I'm pretty sure this was discussed here fairly recently. Unfortunately I
> am
> > too stupid to find it with the search feature.
> >
> > It's a new version I've seen pop up in some casinos, and it requires 7
> > coins for max bet. Instead of just a multiplier before the draw, there is
> > also a multiplier after the draw.
> >
> > My question is what it supposedly adds to the overall EV, if anything? As
> I
> > understand it, regular STP adds about 1/4%. What about Double Super Times
> > Pay?
> >
> > thx in advance
> >
> >
> >
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