Not quite true. The original game had average multipliers of 4.05 and shows
up on an average of once every 15 plays so per every 18 plays you get 18.05
times the shown pay table. this adds between 0.27% and 0.28%.
Double Super Times pay has average multipliers of 4.01 so you are only
gaining about 0.06% not counting the dealt royal. Remember that you are
paying an extra coin per line on both the deal and the draw segments.
The dealt royal is mis-explained and mis-handled at videopoker.com. I
believe that you get 10x only if the multiplier was going to come up either
on the deal or draw and thus 20x only if it was going to come up on both the
deal and draw.
(My home casino does not have this game so if somebody gets a good look at
the real help screen, please confirm one way or the other.)
I have never gotten a dealt royal on a multi-line game (I have had them
twice on $1 single-line progressives.)
For those that played this at videopoker.com did you ever see a multiplier
show up on the draw when you stood pat with something less than a royal
flush?
Note: As most people here know the dealt royal is actually one in 649,740
dealt hands but hitting a dealt royal with both 10x's if I understand it
right is once every 225 dealt royals. An calculation of the add-on for this
is 5.99*800=4792/(4873050*7/5) or about 0.07%.
If the dealt royal was always 10x and 10x would add almost
18.6*800=14880/649740 or a little over 2.3% which using the pay tables
should at videopoker.com would be quite a bit over 100% EV.
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jason Pawloski
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:38 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Question about Double Super Times Pay
The feature itself adds the same amount as the normal super times pay. So if
the original STP adds 1/4% then this will add 1/2%. I'm going off the top of
my head, but I don't remember it adding that much. But since draw multiplier
has the same probability and the same multiplier distribution as the deal,
the payback is just doubled.
But there's a hitch. Somewhere hidden in the help screens, it says that a
*dealt* royal flush with any *deal* multiplier awards the royal at 20x. The
cycle on that is in the millions but it does add a non-trivial amount to the
final payback.
I'm personally a huge fan of this game. Hit a straight flush with a 5x a
couple of times. It's a lot more exciting in my mind than STP, which I never
really got into. If you get dealt a good-to-monster hand, there's the added
excitement that you still might get a (better) multiplier.
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:23 PM, bobbartop <bobbartop@yahoo.com
<mailto:bobbartop%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
>
>
> I'm pretty sure this was discussed here fairly recently. Unfortunately I
am
> too stupid to find it with the search feature.
>
> It's a new version I've seen pop up in some casinos, and it requires 7
> coins for max bet. Instead of just a multiplier before the draw, there is
> also a multiplier after the draw.
>
> My question is what it supposedly adds to the overall EV, if anything? As
I
> understand it, regular STP adds about 1/4%. What about Double Super Times
> Pay?
>
> thx in advance
>
>
>
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