[vpFREE] Re: Rules Revision - MEMBER PARTICIPATION

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "weharter" <weharter@...> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tralfamidorgooglycrackers"
> <tralfamidorgooglycrackers@> wrote:
> >
> > > What's more, each member is expected to have memorized the
> Database
> > > inventory in each casino he/she frequents so deltas may be
> > reported. Do
> > > we have to have it memorized perfectly, or is penalty free
> > memorization
> > > sufficient?
> > >
> > > Bob Dancer
> >
> > Don't use "reductio ad absurdum", Bob. It's a cheapo tactic; one
> not
> > worthy of your towering intellect.
> >
> > Obviously, no one said that VpFree members are or were obligated
to
> > scour an entire casino every time they set foot in it. That's
> stupid.
> >
> > There's a large difference between mandatory scouting, and the
> > reporting of a change in VP inventory THAT THE PLAYER IS
MANIFESTLY
> > AWARE OF BECAUSE HE/SHE HAS VISITED THAT CASINO IN THE RECENT
PAST
> > AND IS THEREFORE AWARE OF THE CHANGE. To pretend that you don't
> > comprehend the distinction between a comprehensive search of the
> > casino and YOUR (in the case obviously being discussed) NOT
> informing
> > the VpFree community of this play that you found WHEN you found
it
> > (whatever your perfectly legitimate reasons, in your own mind,
may
> > have been) is
> >
> > disingenuous
> > dishonest
> > hypocritical
> > self-serving
> >
> > and most of all---highly implausible. Bottom line: you didn't
> report
> > this play, because you wanted to "protect" it. You were and are
> fully
> > aware that concealing such info is contrary to VpFree policy, AS
> WELL
> > AS THE SPIRIT OF THIS BOARD.
> >
> > You do us no service, Bob. Perhaps you feel that you are not
> > obligated to render any such service; that sharing information on
> > good VP games is counterproductive; and that you are "entitled"
to
> > good plays that you unearth. Well, if YOU didn't have the
> assistance
> > of others yourself, you would be constantly scurrying from casino
> to
> > casino, seeking out these good plays. No one person can hope to
> find
> > out all the info out there on some 60+ casinos (and keep it
> current).
> >
> > I'm sure you feel that you are 100.7% in the right here, and that
> > nothing I say or might say can possibly have any influence on
your
> > thinking. You're entitled to that opinion, but please don't get
> > snippy when someone points out that you are violating the spirit
> and
> > the letter of VpFree, which, after all, you joined voluntarily.
> >
>
> Not to either defend or slam Bob, but for this game why does this
> seem to be such a big deal?
>
> As Paladin pointed out in a separate post, there are probably only
a
> hand full of vpFree members who could even consider playing this
> game. The fact that Bob didn't report the play really only
affected
> those few players, who most likely already new about it as well,
> since it doesn't appear to be a casino mistake play.
>
> No one seemed to be upset when mroejacks admitted that he didn't
and
> doesn't provide the locations of many $ FPDW machines (see posts
> 84866 and 84888) which is a game that it's a safe bet would be
played
> by many more vpFree members.
>
> Bob has indicated in past posts that he feels that a double
standard
> is sometimes applied to him when it comes to vpFree, maybe in this
> case he's right.
>
> Bill
>
I back Bob Dancer all the way on this one.

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