Re: [vpFREE] Royal Cycle

 

So you're saying it will give you pairs but "will not pay any hands whatsoever" -- that is indeed a defective machine and you should report it to the casino.  But if you're saying you're not hitting or getting pairs very often, that's variance.  The fact that other players experience the same thing is because they also experience variance.  Not making quads very often (or at all) is to be expected when playing VP.

I can explain it to you, but I can't make you understand it.

If you don't think it's variance, then you shouldn't play there anymore, because the only other explanation is that the game is rigged so that hands do not occur with the frequency that chance would dictate, even in the long run.  That is certainly possible at an unregulated casino.

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On Monday, April 20, 2020, 09:15:22 AM EDT, Tim Brownlow tim.brownlow@yahoo.com [vpFREE] <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:




Oh no it has nothing to do with the variance it's not just me. I am such a regular there I know a lot of the other regulars and they are experiencing the same play. it does weird things like it will not pay any hands whatsoever not even pairs and then it will pay a couple of full houses. What it seems they do is shut off the four of a kinds. 
I played thousands of hands a day when I go I usually spend about 6 to 8 hours about three times a week normally. Without any four of a kind I will talk to other regular players to see about four of a kind and they say they haven't had one most of the time


On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 3:55 AM, Derek Franks gamb00ler@yahoo.com [vpFREE]
<vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

The "cycle" is calculated the same as the wavelength is calculated in physics... the inverse of the frequency.  The major difference between physics and gambling is that the observed frequency while gambling is heavily influenced by variance.  To eliminate the effect of variance, the "cycle" that VP players talk about is the inverse of the average frequency for an infinite number of trials.

To be perfectly correct, the "cycle" is not directly influenced by the rules or the pay table.  It is determined by the strategy used which is in turn usually based on the pay table/rules but in rare cases may also be influenced by certain bonuses offered.

G'luck all,
Gamb00ler


On Sunday, April 19, 2020, 09:30:20 PM PDT, Gimmeaquad gimmeaquad@yahoo.com [vpFREE] <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

I'm not "scared" to play it now or a year from now.  Interesting that you would say that.  As for you 810K scenario, you could have far less than 16 or more than 23.  It is true that it is based on the pay table of the game, but not by the rules.

GimmeaQuad

On Sunday, April 19, 2020, 12:29:44 PM PDT, greeklandjohnny@aol.com [vpFREE] <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Machines don't have individual royal cycles. The royal cycle ( assuming perfect play) is based on the pay table of the game. If the royal cycle is 40,500 hands, that is the royal cycle and it doesn't matter if the game is idled for a month or not. 

If you have 1000 of these machines and they each accumulate 810,000 hands ( 20 royal cycles), some machines will have 16 royals and some will have 23 royals but it is not because of the machine. It is because of the game and the rules. 

So, if you are scared to play when the machines first turn on, you should be scared to play a year later. 


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From: Gimmeaquad gimmeaquad@yahoo.com [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
To: vpfree <vpfree@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 19, 2020 3:02 pm
Subject: [vpFREE] Royal Cycle

 
Since I'm tired of all the discussions regarding the coronavirus, I have a question that is VP related.  With all of the gaming machines shut down or inactive, will it make a difference on the royal cycle of each machine if it was put in standby or completely turned off?  Just prior to the shutdown, I noticed all gaming machines were put into a standby inactive mode with just a small message showing.  What about like the El Cortez with their coin droppers in the back of the property?  Will the RNG start a fresh cycle if the machine is completely turned off?  If it was in a standby mode, will it pick back up once a machine is turned back on and cycle thru from the moment it went into hibernation?  Will the old coin droppers behave the same way.

If it was me, I would not play right after the machines are all back on line.  Maybe wait a few days.

GimmeaQuad   


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